Will the Sports Ammo Pack be out soon?

ASU-TV

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Will the Sports Ammo Pack be out any time soon? I was very happy to see the release back in April but my excitement is turning to disappointment. Any update is appreciated.:help:
 

Don Ballance

Director of Training
We are working on finalizing it and it will be out asap.
We need to finish the CG templates and Live Sets first.
 

ajstead

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Ammo Packs & TC Pro

This may be out of place, but I'm wondering if the Sports Ammo Pack will give us content that we can directly import into the Tricaster Pro, or is the 3d Arsenal software required to use the packs?
 

Don Ballance

Director of Training
3D Arsenal is requirered for the Sports Ammo Pack but we will also have the "Live Set Pack" for additional virtual sets and CG templates for sports. These will both work with your TC without 3dA.
 

Koinonia

Member
3D Arsenal is requirered for the Sports Ammo Pack but we will also have the "Live Set Pack" for additional virtual sets and CG templates for sports. These will both work with your TC without 3dA.

Hi Don,

I am glad to know that Newtek decided to include Virtual Sets plug in as part of 3D Arsenal. This put much more value in this product! Please, just let me know what will be included with the upgrade. Also let me know when the upgrade will be available. I want to be the first one to buy it!!!:D
 

rbartlett

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I didn't read Don's words as saying that the LiveSet plug-in was going to be provided with 3DA.

More that the options for TriCaster were going to have a Sports Ammo Pak and Sports LiveSet that would both work WITHOUT an owner also requiring 3DA.

So Sports are well covered by the plans by NewTek for TriCaster. No obvious release news for the Sports Ammo Pak for 3DA owners (which is content for use in LW, optionally supplied combined with an older version of LW or with an additional separate purchase of the latest LW). Although it was given quite a lot of verbage at NAB2008 so it is likely to be coming down the pike to our doors at some future point in time.

All this stuff is great 'Wannabe 3D'. Like Express Cuisine!
 

ASU-TV

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Although it was given quite a lot of verbage at NAB2008 so it is likely to be coming down the pike to our doors at some future point in time.

Since the announcement about the new Sports Ammo Pack has been on the Newtek home page now for over five months I just hope my door will still be open when it actually arrives. With delays like this I'm starting to question my original budget request for a Tricaster in the next quarter.
 

Koinonia

Member
I didn't read Don's words as saying that the LiveSet plug-in was going to be provided with 3DA.

More that the options for TriCaster were going to have a Sports Ammo Pak and Sports LiveSet that would both work WITHOUT an owner also requiring 3DA.

So Sports are well covered by the plans by NewTek for TriCaster. No obvious release news for the Sports Ammo Pak for 3DA owners (which is content for use in LW, optionally supplied combined with an older version of LW or with an additional separate purchase of the latest LW). Although it was given quite a lot of verbage at NAB2008 so it is likely to be coming down the pike to our doors at some future point in time.

All this stuff is great 'Wannabe 3D'. Like Express Cuisine!

You're right, but in another threat I asked Don if we could use Liveset generator with the 3D Arsenal 2.0 and he told me that it was into discussion. I guess with Live set Pack included in the Sports Ammo Pack this will be possible, so I don't need to upgrade to LW 9.5, just upgrade my 3D Arsenal. I am also planning to buy the Sports Ammo Pack, as I am doing a lot o sports events with my Tricaster Studio 2.0.:thumbsup:
 

Don Ballance

Director of Training
As I said it was a discussion and nothing has been announced about modifying Live Sets in 3DA.

"Live Set Pack Sports" is separate from the "Sports Ammo Pack" for 3D Arsenal and the Live Set pack does not include the LightWave content for modification, only the sets themselves for use in TriCaster.

Right now 9.5 is the way to go for modifying sets. The Sports Ammo pack is due out in 60 to 90 days now behind the CG templates for Sports and the Live Set pack for Sports.

Sets can also be modified using Aura, Mirage (if you own it) or TV Paint. These are 2D packages so no realtime ray traced reflections or shadows. Some of this can be faked though.
 

Koinonia

Member
Understood!
I am just waitting the end of this discussion to decide what I have to do: upgrade to 3DA 2.0 or upgrade to LW9.5. But being able to modify Live Sets in 3DA would be the best solution... at least for me!
 

ASU-TV

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Eight months after the package was announced at NAB there still hasn't been any updates about when the sports ammo pack will be available. Don't loyal customers deserve at least some news about when the product can actually be expected? I think so!
 

Don Ballance

Director of Training
Yes they do!
The final content for the Sports ammo pack is done!
It looks great.
We are workingo on packaging and tutorials now.
I see a Feb release as possible.

There will also be a free update for 3D Arsenal owners giving you new Easy Text with bugs fixed and sizers built in, New scale and shift key scripts for easier spped manipulation and the ability to have the animation hold on the first frame for a specified time. This will be a free patch to be released around the same time as the sports ammo pack.

Sports ammo pack also has a new plugin called Gunsmith for easier texturing in 3DA and we are considering redoing all 3DA objects to take advantage of this new technology.

I know it has been a long road to get here but 3D A enhancements are almost here.

Please hang on and you will be happy.

Thank You for all your support and patience up to this point.

Don Ballance
 

ASU-TV

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Thanks for the update! I eagerly await the release with money in hand. I'm also in the market for a Tricaster and will be reviewing some of the discussions in that forum.
 

Verlon

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February release date still going to happen?

Gunsmith sounds interesting, can you tell us more?
 

Verlon

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1 week left in February. Any news?

Also, since there still isn't a 3DA registration system, how will a patch work? How will that planned "agressive upgrade" work if 3DA 2.0 is still coming? Is 3DA 2.0 still coming, or is it just 1.5 now? If it is 1.5, will it be free? If not how much?

I know Newtek has a lot going on, but it seems that getting news about 3DA or SpeedEdit is like pulling teeth. Seeing those entire forum sections go days without a post is disheartening.

Seeing the release deadline go wooshing by without an update is equally frustrating.
 
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SBowie

'the write stuff'
I know Newtek has a lot going on, but it seems that getting news about 3DA or SpeedEdit is like pulling teeth.
It's not my place to deal with these questions, Verlon, but I'll stick my neck out and first say I'm sorry it has evidently dragged on longer than anyone hoped.

Without saying anything I shouldn't, I think I can mention that I'm pretty certain everyone really expected it to appear earlier. It has seemed close more than once. However the product has undergone many beneficial revisions over these intervening months, even quite recently. It's definitely not on a 'back-burner'. It's not a simple product though, given the need to support multiple versions of LW and multiple platforms too, and even small changes have a way of cascading.

I sincerely hope it is not much longer now, and have reason to think most of the hurdles have been jumped, though no promises. At this late date and from my personal perspective only, a February release seems iffy. (Maybe I'm wrong, I hope so.) Again, I'm speaking a bit out of turn, but here I sit with my Sunday morning coffee in hand and I sympathize.
 

Verlon

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Steve,

I appreciate the response. More than anything, I am frustrated by the fact the Newtek hasn't said the same thing. Originally, this was a Q108 release with references to "coming soon" going back into early '07, and Q109 is slipping fast.

Having someone post "Hey, we're trying to keep it compatible with new Lightwave updates, and we're going to miss the deadline, but the content guys are coming up with even more stuff so it will be an even better release!" or something like that shouldn't be that much to ask.

Maybe throw in a couple of screenshots or something so that people know that the update they are waiting on isn't parked at the end of the line behind LW Core, VT6, 3Play, and Tricaster HD.
 

SBowie

'the write stuff'
I could say I am really, really, really sorry, and that it's true a lot of people are really, really, really busy (what with other projects, shows, yadda, yadda) and so on - but you have a pretty good grasp I think.

Fact is, I've thought it was pretty much done a few times myself, and then it's been revised and enhanced in meaningful ways. I'm quite sure Don felt exactly the same way when he wrote his post at the end of December, and there's no desire other than to make it as good as possible and then get it out the door asap. From where I sit, there is not a great deal left for that to happen, but I've thought that once or twice before. It's tempting to go out on a limb and speculate, but it's not my place to either do that or make promises.

The only good part of all this is that it is, in my personal view, a better package now than it would have been if released even a month ago.
 

ASU-TV

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almost a year

It's been almost a year since the press release announcing the sports Ammo Pack (see www.newtek.com home page).

Will I at least be able to purchase it at NAB THIS year?
 
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