NewTek AutoLink for Panasonic PTZ

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epaomvideo

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Does this remedy the problem I have with my four HE-130s?: Being able to connect and see the inputs, but not being able to control the cams? Do I need both the 422Cat and the 10Base-T cables connected in order to control the cams? Also can't figure out how to find my HE-130s as NDI sources. Seemed a lot easier in earlier versions of Advanced Edition on Tricaster 8000. Or am I just missing something?
 
kanep

kanep

NewTek SE
The AutoLink software will automatically find Panasonic PTZ IP camaera's on the network and turn those sources into NDI signals. It has nothing to do with PTZ control. For the PTZ control, that would use the controls in your TriCaster. Current versions of Standard Edition (Rev 2-6) and Advanced Edition 2 (Rev 4-0) have a new PTZ control engine that will control the cameras better than the previous versions.
 
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Lateanos

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Am I correct in assuming that the signal latency over IP is likely to be a bit greater than coming out SDI?
 
SBowie

SBowie

'the write stuff'
Yep - at least, it is in this context (straight NDI sources see negligible latency, but anything that originates as H.264 is a little 'slower'. The degree varies by device ...
 
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streamingmedia

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We recently purchased NewTek AutoLink in high hopes that it would indeed release SDI inputs and let us move Panasonic PTZ cameras over to NDI but the results haven't been stellar yet. Below is a sample recording of an NDI input on Tricaster 460:

https://youtu.be/CABsp8LticA

Motion is jerky and it's almost like a frame or two are dropping every second, which is confusing as the output settings on the camera match those on the Tricaster, and as regular SDI input the camera's motion is smooth as it should.

What is the most likely culprit here? Is it the camera - Panasonic AW-UE70, which is supposed to be one of AutoLink's supported models, running latest firmware v1.17 - is it AutoLink itself or the system running it (i7 processor and no other programs running simultaneously), or is Tricaster 460 underpowered?
 
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PIZAZZ

PIZAZZ

NewTek System Integrator
First off are you sure that your network path from the camera to the TriCaster is gigabit front to back?
If you are passing through a switch or two, which model/s?
 
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streamingmedia

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Hmm, switch, that's one factor I hadn't considered. There is a switch in between the Tricaster and the cameras, just a basic HPE OfficeConnect 1820, which is a gigabit switch. Only cameras, camera controller, Tricaster, another PC with AutoLink, and a router with Internet access is connected to the switch. We're about to upgrade the device so perhaps that will be the answer.
 
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Malapati

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Hi,

We are looking at working with a similar workflow between HE-130 & TriCaster and would like to know if you have been able to resolve the issue of the "jerky motion"?
Alternately, do you know of a different solution that has been tried and tested since your above post? your feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Rgds
Nino
 
PIZAZZ

PIZAZZ

NewTek System Integrator
Malapati said:
Hi,

We are looking at working with a similar workflow between HE-130 & TriCaster and would like to know if you have been able to resolve the issue of the "jerky motion"?
Alternately, do you know of a different solution that has been tried and tested since your above post? your feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Rgds
Nino
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Hey there Nino
We haven't had any issues running He130s in the past on our network using the NDI conversion software. One key thing to keep in mind is there is more latency since the conversion software is taking the H.264 feed out of the he130 and converting that to NDI. It isn't the NDI conversion that is the problem but the processing time from live to h.264 actually. If you can live with the latency then the software solution is pretty slick. If you need a faster solution and still want to take advantage of the NDI workflow then use a NewTek NC1 or our SDI2NDI to do HD-SDI to NDI conversion closer to the camera. After the conversion you can hop on the network and go practically anywhere with no additional latency. As mentioned above, make sure you are using a business class router and more importantly full speed backplaned gigabit switch. Those items make the biggest difference of all.

BTW I saw Armand at NAB and had a great visit. Maybe you can make it next year. Or maybe I can just drop by over there sometime.
 
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