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kanep

NewTek SE
While you can install Connect Pro and IsoCorder Pro on the same system, you cannot run them at the same time, only one or the other. If you need to do both (convert and record), you will need to use two systems. The VMC1 Input Module does both together in one interface.
 

ACross

NewTek Engineering
To respond to the notion that you could buy Connect Pro, Isocorder Pro, a capture card and a pc (monitor, kb and mouse) for less money, I think it's possible someone could do that. You would always expect diy to be cheaper than a turnkey solution. That's why we offer the essential component separately.

But this assumes you get everything right the first time, aren't worried about esthetics, and really think that the effort involved has no value. In a lot of professional settings, broadcasters will take the other route, but there's nothing preventing the more adventurous soul from trying to save some $$ with sweat equity.

I would go slightly further than this. With a VMC1 IN you have a 1RU system (not easy to build with a card in it), a fully integrated I/O card, balanced audio (hard to get nicely into a case), Tally (no easy way around this), everything tested, passed FCC , comes with a manual and someone to call when things go wrong and continual updates to help make it all work reliably based on what everyone else is seeing, a reseller (or us) who will help you install it, etc...

Having spent way to much life working on these things, getting 4 channels of 1080p60 to work reliable on any old system ... when you get DPC latency spikes on your system (which cause frame-drops), run our of PCIe bus bandwidth (video tearing), etc... these are very hard problems to work out and then solve and there are loads more that you will then be responsible for. There are definitely people who might be fine living and debugging these issues in which case I would absolutely encourage you to build your own system. For those that want to know they have something that just works then you would probably be better off with a system like this.

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AElli

New member
To respond to the notion that you could buy Connect Pro, Isocorder Pro, a capture card and a pc (monitor, kb and mouse) for less money, I think it's possible someone could do that. You would always expect diy to be cheaper than a turnkey solution. That's why we offer the essential component separately.

I understand your underlying theme here, but the saving could be ½ the costs of the production unit.



But this assumes you get everything right the first time, aren't worried about esthetics, and really think that the effort involved has no value. In a lot of professional settings, broadcasters will take the other route, but there's nothing preventing the more adventurous soul from trying to save some $$ with sweat equity.

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I would go slightly further than this. With a VMC1 IN you have a 1RU system (not easy to build with a card in it), a fully integrated I/O card, balanced audio (hard to get nicely into a case), Tally (no easy way around this), everything tested, passed FCC , comes with a manual and someone to call when things go wrong and continual updates to help make it all work reliably based on what everyone else is seeing, a reseller (or us) who will help you install it, etc.
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I think most people here on the forum could build this, I think by its own merit we work in a very technical arena. and as said before the cost saving could be high.... of course you are correct a true pro broadcaster would simply want a drop in solution...
I understand the package the idea above was using he 'IN' unit as a 4port SDI NDI converter in place of the suggested mini..... replacing both with C/Pro & ISO corder

Dr C you've nailed it the savings might workout but having a product presented to you, as you say with a manual and technical support behind it, tested, spec'd and ready to switch on is the reason for the additional costs, and rightly so. Those support services, whilst appreciated by us users also need funding, the people giving support expect a paycheck each month etc. etc. No doubt a little of it helps funds the R&D that is needed to stay ahead also, so I totally agree.
the only thing I would say... There are some nice cases out there, some also having pretty blue lights ;-)

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While you can install Connect Pro and IsoCorder Pro on the same system, you cannot run them at the same time, only one or the other. If you need to do both (convert and record), you will need to use two systems. The VMC1 Input Module does both together in one interface.



Well Kane that's really gone and thrown it :) ....

guys I appreciate the conversation and the bouncing of ideas, to me this and suggestions to help other members here is what the forum is really abt... thanks for indulging me.. like some my delivery might need a little work but it is never my intention to give anyone here a hard time. my questioning is only to continue conversation and ideas and add to my understanding and knowledge of the medium and technology.

regards. A.
 
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SBowie

'the write stuff'
Personally, the time is a key factor.

About a thousand years ago, when cars looked like Fred Flintstone's, I used to do all my own mechanical work. I enjoyed it, and I had the time to figure things out for myself. To be honest, I just couldn't be bothered anymore, too many more important things waiting to be done. I don't have time to do all the research, hunt down compatible bits, assemble, test, and hope for the best. Life is too short. This is not to say some can't do that and enjoy the trip, but one always pays for the ride one way or another.
 

AElli

New member
Oh, I remember those days too.. a set of feeler gauges, a dwell meter and a timing strobe gun were the most advanced tools you would need, but now.....

In fact if I made reference to using feeler gauges on cold dark winter nights on my own in the workshop. today I'd prob. get incarcerated :)


A.
 
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