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[prometheus]

List of countries by intentional homicide rate:

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sweden *

Europe

Northern Europe

1.1

Denmark *

Europe

Northern Europe

1

Poland *

Europe

Eastern Europe

0.7

Czech Republic *

Europe

Eastern Europe

0.6

Sensei, you should try and stay on track to what year we live in, this is late 2021, not 2018...which is the year of the accounting for the numbers.
Those homicide numbers don´t track or difference normal homicides VS Gang Criminality, though denmark had some issues with it, it´s nowhere near the level we have in Sweden.

Swedish task force did some major actions targeted to Gang leaders some year ago, and recent events are probably a side effects of other members and young leaders trying to fill the void, that is to be expected ..getting worse before getting better perhaps.

Denmark has a tougher/different way of dealing with Criminals, and we do have a lot more gang shootings over here than they have, it´s not as bad as in the united states (generally) but bad enough for being a once safe Nordic country.
I recall an interview with a mayour in Berlin ( I think it was Berlin ) who said they have a different way with interaction between authorities to deal with Gang Criminality, and they do not have the same level of Criminality.
Swedish police force has been underpayed, understaffed for a long long time with mismanagement.

Excerpt from one of our biggest news media (Aftonbladet)...Google translated due to lack of time...

To crush gang crime, we need to draw inspiration from our neighboring country Denmark, which has acted in a completely different way than Sweden. Instead of driving on in old ruts, the Danes have implemented a number of pattern-breaking measures to crush the gangs.

Among other things, there is a special gang provision in Denmark which means that gang criminals can receive double penalties for the crimes they are convicted of. Anyone over the age of 18 who commits a crime is treated like an adult when the punishment is measured - there is no statutory "youth discount".

The law enforcement authorities have the right to introduce visitation zones when there is a need, for example in areas where it is known that criminal activity is taking place, in order to, among other things, seize weapons. And during the trial, the prosecutor can present evidence in the form of anonymous testimony. All these measures were included by the Moderates in the gang talks last year, but the government unfortunately refused to include them on its 34-point list.

Now Sensei, do you feel safe in Poland? I suppose it´s relative..did anything change from 1990´s etc?
Anyway..I have to get back tomorrow, I need to force myself to bed since I screwed up the dayrythm recently, so Goodnight for tonight, and don´t let the bed bugs bite.

 

[Shloime]

So, should we open a new thread about where to live?

 

[prometheus]

So, should we open a new thread about where to live?

What are you waiting for, it´s your idea
After that I will just arrive to my neighbourhood, and the gingerbread company nearby, and we will soon end up talking about cookies..consequently a new thread about that has to be made.

Historicly though.. there are numorous threads where people start talking about where they live, climate..or age, or cats.
But sure, a sticky thread may help sort the threads on topic a bit more...so why not.
General Discussion I would suggest.

Of course you are being dead serious.

 

[corsa]

Chiming in a little late, but I'll be 53 in December. I started with LW at version 3.0 with my Video Toaster-equipped Amiga 3000. Used it professionally in the early 90s, then pivoted to web design and am now just the occasional hobbyist.

 

[Shloime]

Of course you are being dead serious.

After reading my post gain, it actually sounded harsher than it was supposed to be. Sorry for that...
Thanks for understanding.

 

[prometheus]

After reading my post gain, it actually sounded harsher than it was supposed to be. Sorry for that...
Thanks for understanding.

that´s alright
Always hard to set a tone to written messages ..Unless using smilies perhaps, so a tounge out in the end often helps set an irony tone to something, without being dead serious

 

[artzgo]

It's 46 years ... I started from LW 5.6 ... from around 12 years 3D deals professionally

 

[icon kid]

Glad you asked the question. Ahh, yes -- I'm 67. started with VideoScape and Lightwave 4 around 1990 on the old girlfriend (Amiga 500), back when you had to plot objects on graph paper in three dimensions and then manually enter the numerical data for each vertice in each object) -- and it's been a joyful journey since then. I moved on to the Amiga 2000 with a Par Board to dump my animations to VCR tape -- remember how cool that was? I've been modeling, animating and doing freelance work since then. I am "caddyjoint96" on YouTube in case you want to check me out. LIGHTWAVE FOREVER!

 

[Sande]

43 - so I guess, for once, I’m actually a young one in a group…

Tried Lightwave for the first time sometime mid ’90s on Amiga (I’m still an active Amigist!), started really using it around 2000. Did some video work, a bit of freelancing from archviz to commercials and spent the last 17 years in game development (f.ex. Trine 1&2 at Frozenbyte, Clash of Clans at Supercell, Legends of Runeterra at Riot Games.) Retired earlier this year to focus on personal projects (like raising a kid.)

 

[erikals]

Retired earlier this year to focus on personal projects (like raising a kid.)

 

[prometheus]

List of countries by intentional homicide rate:

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sweden *

Europe

Northern Europe

1.1

Denmark *

Europe

Northern Europe

1

Poland *

Europe

Eastern Europe

0.7

Czech Republic *

Europe

Eastern Europe

0.6

For the news media, bad news is good news because it has the largest audience. The current world with the flood of bad news in the media to the elderly looks like "WTF is going on, in this world! I don't get it!"...but if you look at the statistics, the murder rate is down, the crime rate is down....
The number of people murdered per 100k is the lowest in human history!

Sorry to bring this up again and replying late, must have missed it.
This makes no sense to me.... just as it makes no sense to all kids starving in the poor countries in africa or middle east wether or not living standards are better in the entire world history globally, or in Sweden or not, or if living standards world wide is better than ever in history, it may sound nice for the future of mankind, but for those living in other conditions, they can care less.

Not sure why you responded this way about this, since it has no connection to increased murder in Sweden, not Decreased in the pattern of how it generally is trending world wide in the human history, then it doesn´t matter if it´s here I live doesn´t it? and it´s from this place I want to move to another country that has decreased crime rates, not increased.

The lowest crime rate world wide in history can´t be applied to Sweden, where it for sure thas taken another route, police force are screaming hopelessly for help, they state it will only get worse, that´s the only thing they can see in the tunnel.

So ..a more safer country to move to at older age would be nice, unless our society over here drasticly can change it within the upcoming 10 years.

 

[erikals]

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i think his point is that even tho things seem to go in the right direction in Sweden, it doesn't.
i can partly agree with that.

goes for Norway too.

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[prometheus]

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i think his point is that even tho things seem to go in the right direction in Sweden, it doesn't.
i can partly agree with that.

goes for Norway too.

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No erikals ..I think there´s a lot of misunderstanding here.
There´s not been anything suggesting things are going in the right direction here in Sweden, as you concluded, it doesn´t, and that´s what Ivé been saying all along.

I was just confused why his reply was about, or came across like most people complain about murder rates etc being so high, when in fact murder rates historicly seem to be at all time low world wide accordign to his replies, so this is very confusing indeed.

The reply from Sensei initially was a quote on you, and denmark being not so immigrant friendly, and also that I found a bit odd in it´s reply...

erikals said:


and not very immigrant friendly, perhaps a tad too much according to news ?

senseis replied: For the news media, bad news is good news because it has the largest audience. The current world with the flood of bad news in the media to the elderly looks like "WTF is going on, in this world! I don't get it!"...but if you look at the statistics, the murder rate is down, the crime rate is down....
The number of people murdered per 100k is the lowest in human history!

 

[erikals]

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yeah, it was a bit to the side, then again the other stuff also is

the tile being "How old are you"

off topic is the way of the LightWave forum.

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[prometheus]

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yeah, it was a bit to the side, then again the other stuff also is

the tile being "How old are you"

off topic is the way of the LightWave forum.

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It´s quite boring being on topic, your either too Old, or too young, but mostly too Old, if you are too young..just join the game later.
Being on topic for this short case is just social lubrication confirmation of ages, some kind of age repeating.

As for the other stuff with sensei etc, I think it´s just a bit of misunderstanding and language barriers in the sense of formulating your views.

 

[erikals]

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yeah, no biggie. off topic is alright imo as long as it isn't a "Hot" thread as they say.
which is rare at the LW forum these days.
more traffic over at FB.

i mostly share source files here tho. FB just isn't reliable enough. (imo)

but little LW stuff atm. lots of work, and a broken PC.
hope to fix it in 2-3 days.

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[Sande]

…yeah, some additional context…

Earlier this year I bought a quaint little country mansion and moved back to Finland from LA, planning like said to focus on personal projects and have more time with the family. Learned pretty soon that the house and the toddler ARE the personal projects - not the 50 or so game ideas, countless art projects, Amiga demos etc random things I had thought of tackling…

But yeah, can’t complain - I just need to re-schedule a bit, to 20 years from now or something.

 

[erikals]

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to re-schedule

that's the key.
need to do this myself.
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[b8000]

Sensei, you should try and stay on track to what year we live in, this is late 2021, not 2018...which is the year of the accounting for the numbers.
Those homicide numbers don´t track or difference normal homicides VS Gang Criminality, though denmark had some issues with it, it´s nowhere near the level we have in Sweden.

Swedish task force did some major actions targeted to Gang leaders some year ago, and recent events are probably a side effects of other members and young leaders trying to fill the void, that is to be expected ..getting worse before getting better perhaps.

Denmark has a tougher/different way of dealing with Criminals, and we do have a lot more gang shootings over here than they have, it´s not as bad as in the united states (generally) but bad enough for being a once safe Nordic country.
I recall an interview with a mayour in Berlin ( I think it was Berlin ) who said they have a different way with interaction between authorities to deal with Gang Criminality, and they do not have the same level of Criminality.
Swedish police force has been underpayed, understaffed for a long long time with mismanagement.

Excerpt from one of our biggest news media (Aftonbladet)...Google translated due to lack of time...



Now Sensei, do you feel safe in Poland? I suppose it´s relative..did anything change from 1990´s etc?
Anyway..I have to get back tomorrow, I need to force myself to bed since I screwed up the dayrythm recently, so Goodnight for tonight, and don´t let the bed bugs bite.

Hej Prometheus,

Du skal være mere end velkommen i Danmark. Hvis du kan læse hvad jeg skriver til dig uden brug af google translate vil du få den sjoveste (dansk humor) tid i dit liv - dette vil jeg garantere dig personligt.
Det buldrer afsted på jobmarkedet, du vil let kunne finde dig et job i København, det halve af Malmø arbejder/pendler der i forvejen.
Danmark er et holistisk samfund, på den måde at hvis du lever her er alt justeret økonomisk således at ingen lider nød - som i Sverige. Men set udefra virker det helt tosset hvis man ikke tager alle mellemregningerne med og det er der de fleste går galt.
Hvis vores selvmordsrate er relativ høj skyldes det nok at vi også her er blandt de meste ansvarlige til at registrer og indberette om dette.
Men selvfølgelig er Danmark ikke perfekt - men som samfund - tæt på...

Ønsker ikke yderligere at kommenterer på dette emne, - bare se at komme afsted...

MVH
// Brian Hermansen / DEN
55 år

 

[prometheus]

Hej Prometheus,

Du skal være mere end velkommen i Danmark. Hvis du kan læse hvad jeg skriver til dig uden brug af google translate vil du få den sjoveste (dansk humor) tid i dit liv - dette vil jeg garantere dig personligt.
Det buldrer afsted på jobmarkedet, du vil let kunne finde dig et job i København, det halve af Malmø arbejder/pendler der i forvejen.
Danmark er et holistisk samfund, på den måde at hvis du lever her er alt justeret økonomisk således at ingen lider nød - som i Sverige. Men set udefra virker det helt tosset hvis man ikke tager alle mellemregningerne med og det er der de fleste går galt.
Hvis vores selvmordsrate er relativ høj skyldes det nok at vi også her er blandt de meste ansvarlige til at registrer og indberette om dette.
Men selvfølgelig er Danmark ikke perfekt - men som samfund - tæt på...

Ønsker ikke yderligere at kommenterer på dette emne, - bare se at komme afsted...

MVH
// Brian Hermansen / DEN
55 år
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Hi Brian,

I could understand the main message decently, some words I need to check up later though
Haven´t translated but will later.

Yeah..I heard that folks in Malmö seem to go over there back and forth.
And, Norway and Finland is out of the world championship in the soccer games in Quatar, Sweden couldn´t close it the last games, but still have the playoffs as a chance.
If we don´t succed I could just as well go to Denmark and cheer for you guys, even though we have our small rivalery at times

Good to hear about the jobmarket over there being pretty decent, I will take a look at it for sure.