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Move to Poland, or another southeastern country *) **) Your lowest pension will be comparable to the pension of the richest people here....
The minimum wage at the moment here is 540 euros. It is enough to pay for an apartment and food for a whole month for a single.
*) and of course better weather.... Which is important for the health of the elderly....
**) or South East Asia..
prometheus
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Poland may be a wonderful country with many wonderful people in many espects, it does however not attract me based on my perception of what the current social politics around human rights and court legeslations seem to be.Move to Poland, or another southeastern country *) **) Your lowest pension will be comparable to the pension of the richest people here....
The minimum wage at the moment here is 540 euros. It is enough to pay for an apartment and food for a whole month for a single.
*) and of course better weather.... Which is important for the health of the elderly....
**) or South East Asia..
But we shouldn´t go in to that, perhaps on private conversations.
prometheus
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I wasn´t in favour for those rules
We had a politician that was a big scam whomotivated the investigation for that, and also led the investigation..he also brought down the insurance health system, and a horrible unemployment police, in the previous government, shouldn´t go in detail more than that, apart from saying that those setting the rules, aren´t affected by those rules..they do not have to look for jobs as part of everyone else Job Duty as it is called, they have covered that by fat bonus/parachute systems..and they justify it with..it´s not easy getting a job after having been a politician...Oh my.
Could be one reason they so gladely opened the doors for immigrants ..so they can take the shit jobs, payed low..and being able to support the older population.
Recent foreign reports of the situation in Sweden is probably quite bad, one of the worse in terms of unemployment, child powerty level, and worse in gang criminality..and I am afraid those reports aren´t far from the truth ..lookin back at the recent 10 latest years.
Unemployment is very hard to track and analyze properly, child powerty..well that is no surprise if we have a huge immigration and most of that is probably connected to that, gang criminality on the other hand, that I can see everyday on the news almost..exploding in many ways.
Back to pensions...I think we should leave earlier.
But they probably have their excuses, such as Everyone has to contribute as much as possible to support an increasingly older and healthier population.
And young ones may not be able to jump in and replace work done by elders..something like that perhaps.
I gladely have the vision of a nation wide program where elderly people are working as mentors for younger people, and can go part time much earlier and during this time
mentoring younger people, this has of course to be adapted nation wide and a huge scale.
Younger people in faster, older people out faster..but bonding together much closer.
I am actually a bit interested in leaving Sweden and settle down in Denmark, it´s just the language...and what to cheer for when hockey games are up or soccergames.
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prometheus
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taking care of kids after school is more suited for young people. they have the energy. and they learn lots within 1 month.
so no excuse there. just bull from politicians. [imo]
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Denmark is nice, i'd be going for Spain myself.
My niece went the school route, taking care of kids around first and third grade I think, she likes it..though stressful at some times.
She went an education for it, and also special education focused on those kids with the autism spectra.
My niece is now 30..well, so much for being young
Spain seems a bit too hot for me..I prefer cooler days, but I could skip the period from 1 of november to april over here, the rest of the year is just as it should be.
Yup Denmark..Danes, the happiest people in the world.at least they are.often refered to as that after enquires, but recent years perhaps after the fin´s, though I am not getting along with many finish people over here unfortunately, something I can´t pinpoint really...Norwegian people..never any issues really, danes..works well but can be misunderstandings very easy.
A bit nicer weather, more cheerful, but crazy at sometimes, but they are not so rigid and uptight in their mentality as I think we Swedes may be too often.
Norway also crossed my mind, but a bit expensive it seems.
Netherlands, Belgium, Austria or Switzerland is some other countries on my Radar...if it becomes untolerable over here, but then again..they have to tolerate Swedish immigrants as well
, as for me, I promise..I am very silent and calm in my behaviour A bit sad though when you the latest years discovers Sweden isn´t where you want it to be anymore, and when you do not feel comfortable in your home country anymore.
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prometheus
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yeah, i might do d a Norway / Spain toggle
i think Norway is close to Sweden in that way.
well, i think you'll find many flaws with other countries also.
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Of course there will be flaws and things I wouldn´t like, the question is however wether or not those issues over here are of that magnitude that I would find it worthwile to relocate to another country not displaying such issues, if possible that is.
I share your attitude...
prometheus
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Leave Sweden for Denmark as soon as possible, or wait till my full pension is in place?
Well...the thing is ..I do not fancy waiting, but to go as soon as possible means I have to get work there as soon as possible to get a full permit to live there, and it´s
probably not easy...but, unemployment rates seem to be the half maybe?
Check this eurostat for 2021..
Sweden at 8.9 %
Denmark 4.4 &
It´s really horrible, the numbers seen in denmark ..we only reached somewhere around the 70-80s, when it in essential was glory days over here and I could quite a job and find one immediately, though of course then I was around 26-30 and not 56 which ad´s to being not so wanted in the labour market.
And part of the issue is of course that those mass immigration numbers adds to this, denmark had a more restricted policy.
So I should look in to working in Denmark, preferably if there´s any graphics work of interest, but I am not excluding other work either.
I´m single, but thre siblings and some nieces..so why not.
Sweden marked in red here, criminality statistics? we are probably ranked even higher in Europe apart from one country maybe.
What I still think maybe is working is some social security systems, and human rights perhaps.
Well...the thing is ..I do not fancy waiting, but to go as soon as possible means I have to get work there as soon as possible to get a full permit to live there, and it´s
probably not easy...but, unemployment rates seem to be the half maybe?
Check this eurostat for 2021..
Sweden at 8.9 %
Denmark 4.4 &
It´s really horrible, the numbers seen in denmark ..we only reached somewhere around the 70-80s, when it in essential was glory days over here and I could quite a job and find one immediately, though of course then I was around 26-30 and not 56 which ad´s to being not so wanted in the labour market.
And part of the issue is of course that those mass immigration numbers adds to this, denmark had a more restricted policy.
So I should look in to working in Denmark, preferably if there´s any graphics work of interest, but I am not excluding other work either.
I´m single, but thre siblings and some nieces..so why not.
Sweden marked in red here, criminality statistics? we are probably ranked even higher in Europe apart from one country maybe.
What I still think maybe is working is some social security systems, and human rights perhaps.
Apply to CD Project or other gamedev company.. They will let you work online from any place in the world..
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prometheus
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The Main point is to actually re-locate to Denmark..since I think a lot of things has gone so terribly wrong over here the latest 10 year perhaps.
Finding work in another country but still working where you live is of course interesting by itself...provided you feel comfortable still living where you live.
But thanks for the tip, though I am not having my skills aimed at the gaming business ..unfortunately, had I that interest of games and such, no problems I think.
There seem to be a lot of positions to fill over here in the Gaming industry.
The whole idea of moving to Denmark I find totally bizarre..
Google: "Denmark has been ranked fifth on a list of the most expensive countries in the world for living costs in 2020. It is often touted as one of the world's most expensive nations, and Denmark's placing on a 2020 index for the cost of living in countries around the world appears to reflect that."
(I've given you suggestions that will allow you to save your existing pension and "live like kings" in a cheap country, and you instead prefer to waste it and have to work even more extensively... which was solution to your statement "it´s not going to be much, may even have to apply for poor mans guarantee pension.")
People come to Sweden finding it an interesting country to live in.
After moving to Denmark, locals will think of you the same way you think of immigrants in Sweden..
It's not about being interested in playing games. It's about creating art at the highest level.
If you were a physicist, you would want to work at CERN..
Google: "Denmark has been ranked fifth on a list of the most expensive countries in the world for living costs in 2020. It is often touted as one of the world's most expensive nations, and Denmark's placing on a 2020 index for the cost of living in countries around the world appears to reflect that."
(I've given you suggestions that will allow you to save your existing pension and "live like kings" in a cheap country, and you instead prefer to waste it and have to work even more extensively... which was solution to your statement "it´s not going to be much, may even have to apply for poor mans guarantee pension.")
I have no idea what you're talking about...
People come to Sweden finding it an interesting country to live in.
After moving to Denmark, locals will think of you the same way you think of immigrants in Sweden..
A game is like an interactive movie.. A movie is like an interactive painting.. Gamedev is state-of-the-art!
It's not about being interested in playing games. It's about creating art at the highest level.
If you were a physicist, you would want to work at CERN..
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prometheus
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Not at all bizarre, if you find it more worth to live in a dangerous unsafe country, than spend extra money on your living, provided you have a job that can support it, it makes all sense in the world.
I will give you some backround to what I talk about, no Danes and Swedes share much very the same cultural background, with some minor exceptions, now compare that to
middle east, african immigrants with an extreme diametrical views in religion and values towards women and law.
Ps Sensei, a huge difference..I am not a refugee, and if I go, I should of course make sure to have a job to go to before I would be allowed to have a permit to stay.
You must be joking if you think Danes would look at me the same way as I would look at many of "some" immigrants coming to sweden from regions that are so vastly different in culture.
Ivé been getting along just fine with danes and I know they like Swedes generally as we like them, and cultural I already mentioned no bigger issues.
Danes are screaming for Swedish labour by the way, though they may prefer Swedes from the skåne region.
Sensei, you do not know a fraction of what I talk about when I talk about my economy, it´s under the assumation my current sitaution is static to some degree, which I believe
may change.
I also posted the rankings of unemployment rates, which you do not seem to find interesting.
Their immigration policy is more restricted and reaches around 14% which in many researches seem to be the very limit of what often is tolerated for immigration not to put pressure on the "native" population and it´s traditions and values, in Sweden there´s 20%.
Don´t play games with me
You can´t seriously have read the same job ads as I have, those requires interests in games, playing games..quite often, but sure there are exceptions.
I´m not a physicist, and there are plenty of more jobs than Cern.
If I where I physicist, I wouldn´t work at all, probably just be examining the innerworks of a nice lady.
Anyway, from those Job ads for game artist, I can tell it´s not for me.
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prometheus
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I am not That immigrant friendly either, with exceptions for some regions, so it goes well with my perspective of multiculturalism in to high number, just doesn´t work..but depends on what region you have to deal with and what values they bring in.
Sure, Americans, Brit´s, spain, french, germans, norwegians, danes etc...You could have those come flooding in to Sweden in even larger numbers than those fleing for their lifes, and our society structure would hold up and be able to support it all better, they all share a much more common ground to Swedes than middle east and african regions does.
It´s definitely a dilemma since so many are escaping war..that is a tragedy of course, but we can´t take on the whole world.
So denmark or finland even would fit me well, if they accept Swedes that is
, but as mentioned..they scream for Swedish labour, and our cultural heritage is very much the same, and values, Danes would hardly see me as a danger to their values, or one that comes in fleing without education or a job plan, it assumes I can look up a job initially to get a permit, I do not come there due to war as a refugee.Worth to note, Germany have had a huge number of immigrants, somehow they don´t seem to have the same issues with criminality than Sweden, so it´s not as easy to just pin point the immigration solely as responsible for a Society breaking apart.
but I also live with them, see how they behave..and how overrepresented they are in gang criminality and rape crimes and how they defend themself with absurd religious values.
This is not the Sweden I loved and was used to, since maybe 1999.
Of course there are exceptions where many of them does shitty jobs and behave, just so sad that too many of them don´t..which unfortunately colors the general picture of them.
but I think we are going off too off topic now, too political..have to stop that now.
Heck, my brothers wife is from peru, she´s done fine over here in Sweden, well payed job as a preschool manager, two wonderful talented and driven daughters, but they came at a different time, and from a different background, even though she has different values, it´s not as extreme as most of those coming here today.
Race, gender, genetics...shouldn´t matter..all should be having as much as equal value as a human being, but there is undoubfully so that cultures do not mix well in Every case, it´s all about what values you have in the bag and how that works with the value system in the land you come to.
But I think this have to be enough of Social Politics around immigration, and my explanation around why I feel Sweden isn´t what is was or should be ....and not being comfortable living here anymore, there´s a bit more to it as well than just immigration that concerns certain government laws as well, but I need to ask each one of you who feels the urge to talk about it, to message me privately so we do not pollute the threads too much.
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List of countries by intentional homicide rate:
List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia
| Europe | Northern Europe | 1.1 |
| Europe | Northern Europe | 1 |
| Europe | Eastern Europe | 0.7 |
| Europe | Eastern Europe | 0.6 |
For the news media, bad news is good news because it has the largest audience. The current world with the flood of bad news in the media to the elderly looks like "WTF is going on, in this world! I don't get it!"...but if you look at the statistics, the murder rate is down, the crime rate is down....
The number of people murdered per 100k is the lowest in human history!
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