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    Yet another SPAM thread...

    I know people are almost as sick of SPAM discussions as they are false 9.5 sightings...
    It's been said by some these are bots with image reading scripts to get past the signup protection and by others these are actual people taking the time to sign up manually.
    Would it be possible to create some sort of filter that simply doesn't allow a post to be made if it contains certain keywords common to the spammer language? You know, porn, meds, viagra, sex and so on... Not blocking the words out with asterisks, but simply denying the post.

    I really can't remember the last legitimate LW post I saw that began with "gay lesbian porn sex use viagra cyalis meds!!!"

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    You would think it would be easy to disable the controls or giving people the ability to put links into their posts before a certain post count has been reached.

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    That's probably an even better idea. I guess the question would be whether or not the forum software is capable of that. I'd have no idea.

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    There seems to be plenty of useful info on vbulletins own forums. This one mentions a plug-in that can be added that will search posts for spam terms and pass them on to a mod for approval before posting.
    It can be limited to scan only new users so after someone has successfully posted a set number of time then their posts will no longer be scanned.

    http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=131568
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    There are plenty ways to avoid spam on vbulletin forums. It just depends I guess how urgent Newtek feels they need to get a grip of the rubbish being posted here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mykyl
    It just depends I guess how urgent Newtek feels they need to get a grip of the rubbish being posted here.
    The roadmap indicates this issue will be addressed in LightWave 11.x

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    If thats what the roadmap says, then it will be LW 13...

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    I've run or co-run multiple forums before, some with thousands of posts and hundreds of active users. We've found that the best way to combat spam is (in order from best to worst):

    1. Manual admin/mod approval of users. This has a literal 100% security rate. I have never seen spam slip through this. However this is totally too overwhelming for a forum the size of Newtek's, and there's always the off chance that nobody approves a user with a weird and meaningless name (like inigo07 for example).

    2. Question/answer. When directly related to the forum's subject, this works almost perfectly as well. For example, here, we'd have a question: "Which company makes Lightwave?" and the registree would select (out of the three options PepsiCo, Wal-Mart, and Newtek) the appropriate answer. Even a relatively innocuous question like "What does Amy Winehouse do?" would reduce spam. Of course the answer there is "drink".

    3. Image verification. This ain't great. It will block maybe half of your bots, but most will get through and all your manual signups will get through. Doesn't hurt to have it though. But heck, sometimes I can't figure out what the letters are.

    4. Rendering of a dead spammer lying in an alley in a pool of blood. Well, okay, it wouldn't phase 'em, but it'd still be cool.
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    The worst part of this is the fact that spammers also seem to be phishing email addresses off this forum.

    I have several email addresses and the one I have listed here is literally the ONLY one that gets spammed. Initially it was just ads for OEM graphics software but now it's the full ensemble, (photoshop, viagra, penis enlargement etc.) so my address has obviously been sold on to other spammers.

    Again, of all the 3D/graphics/architecture forums I visit regularly it's literally ONLY Newtek's that has a problem with spam postings as well, which suggests to me that this is where the spammers found my address.

    A simple screening/waiting period technique would definitely help solve the problem, at least partially.

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    Yeah, all of the sudden I started getting all these intriguing financial offers from the sons of deposed dictators in Africa. I mean, cool, yes I'd like to get $9.5m for helping someone out, and I'd always like a 33% share in some Nigerian preacher's diamond mines, but I'm busy these days and can't take up any old offer.

    All these financial schemes started coming not long after I signed up on these boards. Since, I switched my address to Gmail which does an excellent job of trashing spam, but for a while there it was pretty comical.
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    Like you I have switched my email address on these forums as I only allow responsible forums access to my main account.

    By the way I notice that there are usually a number of views on each of those obviously spam posts before they get taken down.

    In future DON'T. To be honest there should be one view and that is from whoever reports it.

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    This is getting out of hand... I think this latest round has been worse than most of the others b/c there are actually images embedded. What a problem...

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    Even a relatively innocuous question like "What does Amy Winehouse do?" would reduce spam. Of course the answer there is "drink".


    I hardly get any spam at all, and when I do, oddly enough most of them are from people trying to sell me fake Rolex watches. I have no idea why - I guess somewhere along the way I caught the attention of the watch impersonators. But I have 5 Comcast email addies, which get spammed pretty much equally, although again, very little. Comcast has some pretty good spam filtering.

    Come to think of it, Newegg spams me more than anyone, but I guess I signed up for that.

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    If you open that thread and view these images are they linked back to their servers or locally uploaded? If they are linked images (As they usually are) then each person that views them is giving them more reason to come back and get more hits. Don't give them reason to keep coming back.

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