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    2D slider banks?

    Is anyone aware of a plugin or method whereby one can create 2D slider banks (like those in Maya)?

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    Go here:

    http://www.newtek.com/freestuff/lwhelp/index.html

    Then click on: Layout: General Functions

    Scroll down to: Sliders

    This part, at the very end, is important:

    "To simplify using sliders, use the Add Slider Bank generic plug-in command. It will add a null object, apply the sliders custom object to it, and open the sliders interface, all in one step."

    HTH

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    Yeah I understand how to use sliders, but I'm wondering if anyone has written a plugin that would allow you to combine two regular sliders into a 'box control', or 2D slider. i.e. a single control that determines the values of two regular slider controls.

    Maya has these multiple slider types - 'twould be nice to have them in LW too. That way you can have a single lip sync control, etc.

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    Donno if I understand you correctly, but if you want to control 2 channels at the same time with one single slider you either have to use the "master channel" thingy in teh masterplugins panel or create a null object, and make the morphs or whatever follow this Null.

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    I'm only talking about combining two controls into one. The actual values would be affected no differently. I've tried to find a picture of Maya's Type A,B & C sliders but I can't find one.

    Can anyone who knows what I'm talking about help me explain? Or am I not making any sense at all?...

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    I'm pretty sure you can tie two sliders (or more) into a third one, like a 'master' slider, that way you can use the first two separately or change them together with the third one.

    Is that what you mean?
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    i wrote something like this before, for lscript 2.3 called SlideThingMC. if it's still here, then it's still here:

    http://thespread.ghostoutpost.com

    but it's not really that great. i think i can make something better.. but at that time, that was the best i could do.
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    Originally posted by Mikeface
    I'm only talking about combining two controls into one. The actual values would be affected no differently. I've tried to find a picture of Maya's Type A,B & C sliders but I can't find one.

    Can anyone who knows what I'm talking about help me explain? Or am I not making any sense at all?...
    Are you basing this off Jason Osipa's book by any chance? Because as far as I'm aware, Maya only has one type of slider similar to LW (although you can have the slider vertical as well as horizontal). Those sliders which I think he refers to as type A, B and C were simply modelled objects (in Maya - in LW you can just use itemshape on a null) with expressions applied to them to drive different attributes depending on which axis the object/null was moved.

    Or maybe Maya has more than one slider type, but I don't think so
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    If you have LightWave 8, there's a scene in the Rigs directory called Proton2_rig.lws that uses this kind of square slider for facial animation...

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    I think Mikeface mean something that where discused at this forum

    http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71553

    Try to download that video from SimonMills
    It is XSI based but inspired a lot of people, lightwavers, animationmasters, cinema4d .... (the first links do not work but there is one that works till yesterday)

    So i saw the demo reel from Matthew L. Stoehr and was totaly amazed on the face rigging in lightwave.

    http://www.theladyandthelion.com/site_v2.htm

    He has discused what he saw from SimonMills in XSI and try to do that in Lightwave and i think he did it !!!
    He and some others. (they post some files to try it in lightwave)

    here is the link from that discusion

    http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php...ht=pixelranger

    Also you can look for the plugin collection from Peter Thomas and can see something similar

    http://www.thomas4d.com/

    If you saw all this and read both forum threads you can do this too without a plugin.

    hope that is what you mean Mikeface.


    regards

    Mathias

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    Sorry BeeVee,

    i just saw the scene after posting.
    This was made with Thomas 4D plugin and was totaly cool and it (the plugin) cost not much money : )

    Everione can make something like this (i mean the slider setup) on the fly with the plugin and can save it and gave it to someone else that have not the plugin and he can use the rigging too.

    But without that plugin you must to lean it by yourself and that is what is in the threads.

    regards

    Mathias

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    As Geoff cleverly noticed, my post was motivated by my use of Jason Osipa's excellent book, "Stop Staring". Thanks to all who commented.

    I believe the best way for me to go is to create my own 'sliders' by restricting the position of objects to a cage and using it's coordinates to drive the morph amounts. Don't know why I didn't think of that before...!?

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    Originally posted by faulknermano
    i wrote something like this before, for lscript 2.3 called SlideThingMC. if it's still here, then it's still here:

    http://thespread.ghostoutpost.com

    but it's not really that great. i think i can make something better.. but at that time, that was the best i could do.
    any chance of a lw8 version of that script?

    /dbp

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    Originally posted by dbp
    any chance of a lw8 version of that script?

    /dbp
    the question is whether i have a chance to get lw8.

    i suspect that it will work in lw8 at any rate. what i need to improve on that script is it's general programming. it's still somewhat buggy... useable but not up spec. who knows.. i still need to find time.
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