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    I'm in need of fluid smoke for a VFX gig

    I've been offered a job. Mainly it was making a car explode with debris etc. No problem.. But then they asked for smoke in a shot that didn't go as planned, due to heavy wind during shooting - so their REAL smoke just blew away with Mother Nature.

    I understand that Cantarcan Dynamite is not an option, cause the website is literally gone and so is the guy behind the plug-in. Is there any other options to do this inside LightWave? NOT PARTICLES AND HYPERVOXELS. I need FLUIDS!

    If not in LightWave, what other options are there? Price? Crazy steep learning curve?

    Go on guys, SOMEONE must know something.
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    dear ola

    check blenders smoke videos...It looks pretty good and fast..
    Otherwise you gotta step into FUMEFX world which is a plugin for MAX ...

    But weird thing is in this ultimately talented LW plugin writers Guild, how come someone cannot come up with a smoke-fluid system i really dont get it...

    Dpont? Lightwolf? Is it hard to get an implementation from Blender or something?

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    Realflow has a very good solver for doing fluidbased smoke.
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    Wow, two replies already!

    tyrot, I've recently seen the Blender 2.5 smoke fluids system, and it looks AMAZING! However, it seems it's not yet released.

    And unfortunately, Max + FumeFX is way beyond what I would spend for such.

    Cageman, I'm not sure I quite follow. ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlaHaldor View Post
    Wow, two replies already!

    tyrot, I've recently seen the Blender 2.5 smoke fluids system, and it looks AMAZING! However, it seems it's not yet released.
    Here we go again. Blender is open source, it's always available the only difference with a commercial app there are two versions: stable and unstable. Go to graphicall.org and download the unstable version.

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    FumeFX is decent for smoke. Not easy to use, took a couple days to get smoke to do what I was wanting. Need a PC and 3dsmax though. Camera matching from LW to Max is a B*#@! though.. We had to buy polytrans to get it right, even then it hates zooms and such.

    PointOven wasn't cutting it.

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    Allright! THANKS! Now I have Blender 2.5, but I don't understand an inch of it. The guides I find don't cover v2.5, and cause of the difference in interface, I'm pretty much stuck.
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    Particle Illusion may help though it isn't fluid smoke. Very easy to use and not that expensive.
    http://www.wondertouch.com/movies/pe...o_emitters.mpg
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    i have particle illusion , and i would suggest against it . nice for kiddie effects "no offence to the software " admitly you have nice control over the varibles but i would stay away from it ill post an AVI to show you the results, surely LW can handle it , if you have the right person at the wheel .

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    Hmm.. Don't think Particle Illusion would do it for this gig. They want photorealistic effects. As I see it, fluids is the only way to go. Question is just how I'm gonna get there, either with Blender or something else that I possibly can afford..

    Man I'd love to get my hands on Dynamite. *sob sob sob*
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    fake it with after Effects ,trapcode or some equvilent pluggin , After Effects has some really good stuff going on .

    Edit Real Flow sounds like your answer
    Last edited by OnlineRender; 09-10-2009 at 04:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlaHaldor View Post
    Cageman, I'm not sure I quite follow. ?
    www.nextlimit.com

    (their site seems to be down at the moment though).
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4dartist View Post
    PointOven wasn't cutting it.
    Interresting...

    PO from LW to Maya regarding cameras is working really well (Zoom and all that stuff included). Have you guys sent some testcases that has this issue to Mark Wilson?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlineRender View Post
    fake it with after Effects ,trapcode or some equvilent pluggin , After Effects has some really good stuff going on .

    Edit Real Flow sounds like your answer
    Would you be able to point me to an example or tutorial on how to make believable smoke from a smoke grenade?

    I have a hard time thinking I can pull it off without fluids..
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