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    Quote Originally Posted by animlab View Post
    It is not like hacking a program. The festure is just there. It come with TC that you paid for.
    "Hacking" may not quite be the correct word, though one could argue that skins changes do 'hack the design and functionality' - but I didn't mean the term in a pejorative way and hope you didn't take it as such. You can call it 'augmenting' the design if that feels more comfortable. Nor did I questioning legality or propriety.

    That said, I'm not sure NewTek's position on TC is really to encourage 'augmentation', and it certainly isn't my place to do so. Broadly, some interventions might be benign, even benevolent, while some others could prove ill-advised. Some are almost completely un-intrusive, while others are more so. That's why your disclaimer ("modification at your own risk") is one I simply echo.
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    How often does one need video to run in reverse?
    Is it really worth jeopardizing your NewTek warranty?
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    There go two methodologies for explanation: wordy and to the point.




    I like them both.
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    I'd prefer to think of one as authoritative, and the other as tactful.

    (It's not my place to say yay or nay about such things. If I hadn't been directly asked I'd not have said anything at all.)

    That said, sometimes I can be wordy, oh yeah ....
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    Said colloquially,
    "You be dancin' wit'ur words, man, doing the tango to a swing beat"

    Dunno why that came to mind. It's not the case.

    As one of the wordy ones, I concur. Soon to be lmao at this lil conversation.

    Chuckle, thinking of the little gnawing dog at the thought that you could "go for the authoratative message." haha

    Gotta get back to my homework. Thanks for the chuckle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnCommonGrafx View Post
    Thanks for the chuckle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Lara View Post
    How often does one need video to run in reverse?
    Is it really worth jeopardizing your NewTek warranty?
    I use this (reverse video) all the time. One of the things I use my TriCaster for is recording 8mm film transfers. You'd be surprised at how many reels of film I see that are wound the wrong way, it's a heck of lot easier to just play the file backwards and/or flip it upside right rather then sort it out on the reel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Lara View Post
    Is it really worth jeopardizing your NewTek warranty?
    Is there a clear line of what's OK/not OK in terms of soft modification to the Tricaster?

    Specifically with regard to:
    • Third Party DVEs
    • Editing DveDatabase.cfg to recognize a newly installed DVE
    • Third Party LiveSets
    • Third Party ToasterScripts/Skins loaded via UserSkins directories


    Obviously I would expect that modifying the original Tricaster code as Chen suggested would not be recommended. JCupp's recommendation of dropping the launch script in a UserScripts folder would seem in line with previous posts I've seen from at least one NewTek employee recommending running added in scripts from UserScripts folders.

    Please note, I'm not trying to place *any* judgement here on what's right or wrong. IMHO it's well within NewTek's rights to say that ANY modification blows the warranty. I'm just asking what the official line is, as I'm concerned about the validity of recommendations I make to folks buying DVEs or LiveSets from me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBowie View Post
    That said, sometimes I can be wordy, oh yeah ....
    Little can be worse for a writer than a cap on the number of words they may use.
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    Well poo. There goes my idea for a hot pink TriCaster skin....
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    Quote Originally Posted by billmi View Post
    JCupp's recommendation of dropping the launch script in a UserScripts folder would seem in line with previous posts I've seen from at least one NewTek employee recommending running added in scripts from UserScripts folders.
    I wonder if that might not have been in connection with VT, which is a bit more of an open system than TC?

    I would expect that that adding LiveSets and DVE's is supported, with the usual caveats. Those seem to be well within TC design parameters. Something that involves adding (or removing) base functionality gets into a more gray area (for me personally), from the standpoint of potential effect on performance (I realize that the editor is not used live, I'm speaking generally here). What I might do to my own system and what I would suggest publicly are two very different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Lara View Post
    How often does one need video to run in reverse?
    Is it really worth jeopardizing your NewTek warranty?
    Reverse is like anti-diarrhea medicine. You don't need it very often but when you do, you need it NOW and nothing else will suffice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBowie View Post
    I wonder if that might not have been in connection with VT, which is a bit more of an open system than TC?
    I just hunted for the post I was thinking of, and you may well be right. It was in the Ticaster forum, in answer to a Tricaster question, but the address paths Aussie gave are for VT4. It's not clear if he was talking about Tricaster and gave the other paths out of habit, or thought it was a VT4 question.

    http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42084

    Either way, a techie explaining how something can work isn't the same as an a policy of whether it should be done and supported, hence my question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Lara View Post
    How often does one need video to run in reverse?
    Is it really worth jeopardizing your NewTek warranty?
    It seems that it's needed enough that people are finding ways to hack it.

    Personally for me, no. Every job we do is too important to roll the dice. Unless it's Vegas baby, then it's HARD 8 all the way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Lara View Post
    How often does one need video to run in reverse?
    Is it really worth jeopardizing your NewTek warranty?
    Paul, I take this as NewTek don't encourage to do that.

    I am a NewTek dealer/distributor since NewTek begin their Amiga VideoToaster beta. NewTek always said they are listen to the users but there are always many simple features left behind to fullfill user's expect.
    I am happy that finally someone in NewTek take a look on this thread. Now, do NewTek consider adding a little check box to the EditMedia to enable the "reverse" feature (a little minor feature in your words: "How often does one need video to run in reverse?") on next release? This will not take hundreds manpower from TriCaster team. Just few line of code and little change in skins. It take just a few minute and users get satisfied.

    I hope I can heard NewTek response as "Yes, we are listen. Your request might be added to next build and solve your problems." and make users such as billyr1949, Q1 and many others feel NewTek are answering their questions.
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