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    Not so newbie member lardbros's Avatar
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    Yeah, i know, but i'm a nice guy really. I'd rather just scare them a bit so they messed their pants. Legal action is going a bit far, too many people take people to court on a whim these days.

    Like the woman sueing for damages when she received 3 paper cuts at work. Could only happen in america!
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    I agree, I think the one person that should be contacted about this situation is Gerald Abraham, if it is his work then I'm sure he will quite happily do all he can to expose the fraudster, keeping your hands (and more importantly, your clients) relatively clean of the whole affair.

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    Rank practise. Find a tree and nail the bastard to it. Really.

    I still get the arse when I see people rendering demo scenes into their showreels, but to take the work of a practicing commercial artist and pass it off as one's own... that's below contemptable, that's scum.

    The cry of "Oh, but I could do that if it was a paid job!" is one that makes me want to bite huge chunks out of my desk.

    Dob him in, Lardbros - for the life you save may be your own.
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    It is the right thing to do really, it'll save us lot in the end! I'm just gobsmacked that someone can have the bottle to actually do it. I would take a guess and say that he doesn't have a clue about the industry, uses illegal software, and needs to be taught a lesson or two on malpractice. Believe me, it makes be bloody angry too, but i'm waiting on a response from the agent bloke i do work for to see if he gets anything from him. The biggest sh*tter in the whole thing is that my agent guy almost showed one of his clients these pieces of work saying someone he has on his books can do it. Fine, i may be able to stretch myself and do something half as good, but these images are the industry's BEST, bar none.

    You're right though, the guy would be best behind bars for a week or two... that'll teach him.
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    Lardbros,

    I don't envy you, mate - it's an unpleasant position to be in, truly horrible. But for all the slack we may wish to cut our fellow wavers, claiming another bloke's work as one's own is far past the line.

    You're obviously a decent chap, or you wouldn't be pulling your own self over the coals for someone else's wrongdoing. Good on you for that, sir - but it would be a greater wrong to let this person keep up his practice. Don't let this cost you any sleep.
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    I've had this happen more than once in the last few years. Most recnetly with my Serenity mesh.
    http://www.seansgallery.com/cgi-bin/...24x768&menu=34

    A guy over at renderosity claimed he modeled and modified the mesh. This is more frustrating than I care to say.
    He has since recinded the statement and apologized, but I'm still annoyed that people feel they have to claim other people's work as their own.... :agree:
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    Case in point.

    As a (rabid) Firefly fan, I can imagine - quite clearly - how much work you've put into that mesh, dude. I understand you built a lot of it on a low-powered laptop. Oh, golly.

    Our work - our art - is the mark we leave on the world. It's our way to light some candles in the darkness, and to try to leave the planet a bit better than we found it.

    It's what we've got, you know? Even if it's thumb-fingered fiddlings, there's nothing more personal than the art we create.
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    Oh blimey, i won't lose sleep over this. It may be different if i relied on freelance work to live, but it's just done in my free time at the moment. I don't tend to let things bug me anyhow, but this just got on my mammaries a bit.

    I work hard trying to do some half decent work, when others dont even try, yet they'll get the jobs or more interest from the people who just don't have a clue. Shame, but maybe i'll drop Gerald Abraham (the original aritist) a line, unless someone else has done the honours?

    Cheers,
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    the folks at work here inform me that they get faked/stolen-work reels all the time. sad. seems it's more common than i thought.

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    this is sad

    I sometimes ponder the idea of people stealing other artist work to get employment...but I didn't think some was crazy enough to do it...which now begs the question: should I as an artist provide source files with my demo reel? I'm finishing up my degree as a computer animator & I want studios/companies to know my work is legit and that I'm a serious artist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bog
    Even if it's thumb-fingered fiddlings, there's nothing more personal than the art we create.
    That would be me then Good job I play guitar better than I draw.

    Even so, if I found one of my ickle models /redners being used and claimed as someone elses, I'd feel the need to select my weapon of choice from my wall.
    Too old to die young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colkai
    Even so, if I found one of my ickle models /redners being used and claimed as someone elses, I'd feel the need to select my weapon of choice from my wall.
    Heh. You could borrow that beautiful bird.

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    Heh, Aye, that's do it She can be quite fiesty too, though I'd be worried about ruffling her feathers.
    Could always borrow my friends Golden Eagle, 9 lbs of pure agression
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell
    I sometimes ponder the idea of people stealing other artist work to get employment...but I didn't think some was crazy enough to do it...which now begs the question: should I as an artist provide source files with my demo reel? I'm finishing up my degree as a computer animator & I want studios/companies to know my work is legit and that I'm a serious artist
    I don't think that's something that you need to do. After all, you don't want your source files getting out all over the place, then if someone with a mind to steal it does they have a strong claim that it's their work as well.

    The fake reels that are obvious don't get fakers in the door. Once you're in the door, be prepared to talk about how you created what you did, show other render angles, wireframes, or even at that point submit a model if you feel comfortable with the employer.

    I interviewed a guy a while ago, I suspected him of not being as able as he was purporting to be. I asked him for a couple of models to look over his work, and haven't heard from him since.

    -e

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    Karmic Boomerang

    Lardbros,
    I suspect most, if not all of us, feel the same way. This sort of situation is not only plagerism, theft, and stupid, it will come down real friggin hard on this person taking credit for other people's efforts. As a studio manager and art director I have seen this on several occasions. The last was when a buddy called me for a reference where someone applied for a job claming to work on a game that I worked on. I knew everyone on the team and did not know who this fella was.
    Even though there are thousands of CG artists we are a small specialized industry and word gets around as we have seen here. If this thief gets a job on the backs of others he will be called to the carpet to produce art at the same level, or higher, than the plagerized image. When he can't produce the results, that karmic boomerang will be flying back real hard.
    This behavior will continue to happen but in the mean time we can do our best to check references and ask the right questions during interviews. We should all take advantage of watermarking and labeling our images with copyright info.
    Peace,
    DrCuervo

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