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  • Newtek make LW3D

    26 42.62%
  • Luxology make LW3D

    5 8.20%
  • Luxology are making the nexgen integrated LW

    10 16.39%
  • This is all a big plan to sell LW and LW Pro.

    4 6.56%
  • Who cares? They are all lying.. And will continue to do so!

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Thread: More lies!

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    More lies!

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    "The new NVIDIA Cg development solutions represent a huge step forward in graphics programming. Finally, we'll be able to achieve incredible realism without tying our applications to low-level hardware features that restrict the lifespan of the software. Programmer productivity will skyrocket and DCC technology users are going to love the proliferation of high-fidelity visualizations. LightWave users should applaud the efforts by NVIDIA that have brought us to this point."

    Brad Peebler
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    Luxology, developers of NewTek LightWave 3D
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    Make of it what you will, i just don't want to know anymore...

    XSI 3.0 here i come.... (Does anyone know if Avid still exchange copies of LW for a reduced XSI price?) I believe they had some kind of deal going. (Can you exchange multiple copies?)

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    "LightWave users should applaud the efforts by NVIDIA that have brought us to this point"

    Where is that quote from?

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    It's from a Nvidia webpage..

    http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=cg_testimonials

    But we don't know how old this page is.. But who cares, really??

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    Thumbs down

    omg will it ever stop?

    biting my tounge.... hanging by a threads now.

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    ....I read that back when I first started working at NewTek....

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    Hmmm, Perhaps Newtek should contact 3D World and Nvidia and tell them who the makers of Lightwave3D really is...

    Having quotes like that publically listed, can be great for lawsuits...

    Especially With Chuck trying so hard to maintain a one owner policy.

    When will it stop?
    Most likely when princess peebler stops opening his big mouth..

    The question that gets raised, is:

    Where the hell are my CG shaders?

    If the president (Huh!) of Lightwave tells me
    to be thankfull to Nvidia for all my DCC hardware optimizations.
    I'd actually like to use them first!

    As Nvidia also seem to think that Lightwave is being built by Luxology, i guess i could assume, that NT have had no contact with Nvidia nor do they have any CG shader support planned no enhancements to hardware support etc...

    But the company that's "Not" making Lightwave officially,
    has "publically" supported Nvidia hardware support.
    for a product they have nothing to do with.

    Sorry, but it makes me laugh....... (ahahahaheheheheh) see!

    I'm just rapidly losing interest left, right and center, and in all dimensions too..

    Yes i am being a troublemaker (like woody woodpecker)

    Because VB bulliten sucks, it won't accept my cookies, i have to log in for every message i post, and then it can't find the thread, so i actually have to log in twice, to post one message.
    I don't have this problem on CGTalk.

    Also Avid is no longer taking trades of LW dongles. Arrgghhhh!!!

    It's one of those days!

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    ...watch out for that door!...
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    ...watch out for that door!...


    WHACK!!!!!........ Watch out for tha what? Oh i see!



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    hey cim i totaly agree with you and heh nothin to add more..... it is exactly what i also think will happen or is happenin.....

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    Yeah, that nVidea statement is really old. I saw it some months ago after doing a Google search on Luxology.

    More recently Brad Peebler refuses to comment about the Newtek / Luxology saga.
    Moral of the day:
    Worry about your own morals, not someone else's!

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    CIM, i think you sound a little *too* sure of yourself. I really don't think Lux is working on the dev of LW at all.

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    None of you know what is really happening so why speculate?

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    >XSI 3.0 here i come....

    I exploring XSI and can say it has a lot of own shortcomings
    Modeling workflow is not as fast as LW's and it's missing some important tools as "drills", slicing and so on. it has some good modeling stuff that LW doesn't have but overall workflow is slower (though for character modeling it's pretty good)
    It doesn't have normal motion blur (i mean curved one).
    It has quite limited support for HDRI.
    Dynamic is quite slow even compared to MD... and say turbulence field won't work with cloth but will with particles for example.
    Though Render Tree is amazing and gives you a lot of control.
    PPG (Property Editor in LW) allows you to make changes for multiple items at once.. really convenient and you don't have to use Spreadsheet which doesn't have access to all params anyways.

    Well, whatever, but i guess you won't be able get away from LW that easily

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    Well that McLeft and it's way too expensive.

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    Yeah Mcleft:

    I have been teaching myself XSI 2.0, and i was impressed, at how easy it was to many things that LW can't or can't do easily.

    However.... I agree that it's not the ducks guts like everyone would suggest....It is slower than LW.... (by quite a bit)

    It's why it surprises my that everyone wants an integrated package..... (it has some good bits, but i'd prefer them seperate) (and fast)

    I do refuse to Model in XSI....... I can't model in an integrated package. (I still use Modeler) and if it gets glued together, i'll go to wings3d for my modeling.

    My worklflow in LW is many times faster compared to that of XSI.
    But that could just be because i know LW much better.

    Having said that XSI is under active development by one company.... And it seems to have some direction.

    I don't have to hear about peebler every 5 mins,
    which is always a plus...

    Almost a year since the last minor bug update.
    Conflicting stories of development, little or no updates.
    Lots of promises of cool tools soon. No Lscript 2.6 still.

    (New staff, dev team, beta testers) it all takes time to get working together... (and i will upgrade to 8 when it arrives)
    but meanwhile i have plenty of time to learn new software.
    And XSI is moving forward.

    Thier comes a time when you must put the business, before your loyalty to your tools and their developer.

    (And i have been loyal to NT, and i do have much respect for Chuck, Duece, and many of the NT team)

    However unless Avid bring back the promotional trade in,
    (LW dongles) i will only be upgrading the one licence of XSI2
    It's too much money, for something i'm only half happy with.
    And it's no use having multiple copies until i'm adept with it.

    I am not moving on, just starting to add other products into the pipeline..

    I'd rather waste money than time...
    I find you do usually get what you pay for too.

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