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    Erikals - Bevel Sucks Video

    I subscribe to your channel - a lot of really great information and interesting experiments.

    On your latest video, I completely understand the sentiment behind it. Rounder as a tool leaves a lot to be desired.

    But I took a different approach and I think I got the results you were looking for, although only you would know that for sure.

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    Delete polygons and chamfer edges

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    Final result

    I mean, I know it isn't using Rounder or edge bevel to achieve the rounding; but the final result appears to be what you are looking for, with significantly fewer steps.

    No? Yes? Usable?
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    no, unfortunately not,

    it creates a box with a rounded shape.

    could be of use it certain scenarios, but mostly not.

    the polyflow is also inconvenient.


    so the "solution" is LWcad at the moment. I advice everyone to buy it.

    thanks for testing, it might be of use in other scenarios.
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    I use Bevel ++ for all my bevelling needs. Bevels, Booleans, and such are too destructive in LW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMarchant View Post
    ...Bevels, Booleans, and such are too destructive in LW.
    For consideration: http://www2.trueart.pl/?URIType=Dire...s/UnMultishift
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    Quote Originally Posted by raymondtrace View Post
    300 usd?

    Sounds extremely expensive for that specific model plugin,
    LwCad 175 usd

    Am I missing something here?

    Would love to get LW cad, but I won´t invest in much until I can see where or if anything happens with Lightwave, at the most perhaps get some of 3rd powers tools such as metamesh, first.

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    Am I missing something here?
    just some mis-information from TA... it is part of the Modeling Pack
    http://www2.trueart.pl/?URIType=Dire...odeling%20Pack

    it won't be of help here tho'
    an alright tool, but used for other operations, quite unrelated.
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    anywayz...

    a follow-up to that other video >





    buy LWcad here >
    http://www.lwcad.com/html/buy/customer_selection.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by erikals View Post
    ...it won't be of help here tho'
    an alright tool, but used for other operations, quite unrelated.
    I was just responding to John's mention of LW's destructive workflow. There are some ways to deal with it, like with this plugin from the full TrueArt modelling pack. It can also undo bevels from Bevel++ (not just LW's native bevel tool).
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    I don't have TA Modeling pack so i can't say how good or not it is and how up to date his plugins are. I find Bevel ++ to be much better than native and whilst it's not totally no destructive, its certainly more predictable.
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    Quick link to LWCAD 2020 demo for round tool (~12:30)

    https://youtu.be/_P5yp_PpFZk?t=749
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    Quote Originally Posted by raymondtrace View Post
    Quick link to LWCAD 2020 demo for round tool (~12:30)

    https://youtu.be/_P5yp_PpFZk?t=749
    You appear to be reinforcing Erik's point much more than refuting it: LW's native bevel/extrude/shift-type tools lack usability/quality, and obtaining reliable, usable ones costs extra.

    IMO, LW11's "Chamfer" should have been a catch-all superset tool of like "C4D Bevel"-level capability. IMO, it made zero sense for Ikeda to produce another "subset tool", whose subset was even SMALLER than existing LW tools. I find it makes even less sense that Viktor went further, producing a BUNCH of "subset tools" in LWCAD broken up along LW-similar role lines. WTF?!

    Honestly, it's not the UX mistakes that bother me, it's the hell-bent dedication and focus on repeating the same ones over and over that really sets me off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwiede View Post
    You appear to be reinforcing Erik's point much more than refuting it: LW's native bevel/extrude/shift-type tools lack usability/quality, and obtaining reliable, usable ones costs extra...
    You appear to be misunderstanding this conversation if you believed anyone is here to debate or refute something. We're just here to discuss workflow solutions. Opining & blaming is pointless, but you're welcome to carry on if you find some value in that.
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