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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeVee View Post
    Yup, I was deputy editor to Garrick Webster for the first few issues until he moved on to Computer Arts and left me captaining the ship


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    I worked on the school newsletter - that specific smell of a duplicator! My first dtp work was on a zine for the Amiga, in PageStream (Pro Page was more stable, PageStream more fun).

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardbros View Post
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    That podcast is BRILLIANT!
    I KNOW, RIGHT?!

    Those boys really uncover the behind the scene stories of all those retro tech companies we grew up on in the 80s and 90s, from the people who were there.

    And they do it EVERY WEEK!

    You wouldn't believe the things they were getting up to back in the day.


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    Newtek should do a LightWave one, talking to all the old Bab 5 pros and stuff. Would love to hear a podcast interviewing Kevin Q and Chris Zapara and all those cool guys
    Over to you Ben.

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    Too cool.
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    Thanks so much for pointing me towards Ben's interview BTW... I'm addicted to those podcasts now They're awesome. Been listening to all my retro heroes, it's great!

    I used to have every issue of 3d World... apart from issue 4, i think I lent it to someone and never got it back... but recently recycled them ALL It was difficult, but they took up SO much space.
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    My copies of 3D World until I left Future Publishing...

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    Yes, this kind of stuff needs to recognized somewhere and in some way by NT. Better late than never.

    https://www.festival-cannes.com/en/films/sin-city
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdkeast View Post
    Yes, this kind of stuff needs to recognized somewhere and in some way by NT.
    If it hasn't happened by now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdkeast View Post
    Yes, this kind of stuff needs to recognized somewhere and in some way by NT. Better late than never.

    https://www.festival-cannes.com/en/films/sin-city
    "O K, so what's the speed of dark?"

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    This is truly awesome and I love it! Of the thousands of films I've seen, this is one of the top ten that stick with me visually. It blew my mind when I first saw it and still does to this day.
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    awesome

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    Itīs fake

    Almost all, and Benicio Del Toro isnīt even smoking for real when taking a p..in the loo, I am guessing that is a simple particle effect David did as well..of course.

    I really liked the style as well, highly contrasted black, and when there was in need of blood, it could be white, yellow..very strong contrasted against the black and white, or to highlight Alexis Bledels already blue eyes.

    And Rutger Hauerīs character is getting his head squashed by the hands of Mickeyīs character, guess what goes around comes around and rutger was quite nasty doing that in blade runner, so maybe an action cameo tribute or something.

    Donīt know how many shots David did, but it all turned out very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post
    ... and Benicio Del Toro isnīt even smoking for real when taking a p..in the loo, I am guessing that is a simple particle effect David did as well..
    Del Toro's cigarette smoke was an odd situation. For some reason, those were the only two shots where his cig was not lit on set. The FX supervisors brought up in a meeting, 'how are we going to do that?' I used an ancient Fusion plugin that did surprisingly convincing, small scale, fast, 2D smoke, with a little processing help. I was surprised none of the many advanced fusion artists on that show were not aware of it.
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    It is one of several very useful plugins (5D Monster, and Tinderbox) that I REALLY wish I could still use! Those plugs only work in Fusion 4, and Fusion 4 only runs in XP. XP Mode in Win 7 does not fool F4 into working. The Glass tool was particularly great for smoothing out voxel puffball tendency, and other FX. I have not quite figured out how to fake it.

    After communicating with Eyeon support about getting Fusion 4 to work in later versions of Windows, they were not willing to bother.
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    "O K, so what's the speed of dark?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Rid View Post
    Del Toro's cigarette smoke was an odd situation. For some reason, those were the only two shots where his cig was not lit on set. The FX supervisors brought up in a meeting, 'how are we going to do that?' I used an ancient Fusion plugin that did surprisingly convincing, small scale, fast, 2D smoke, with a little processing help. I was surprised none of the many advanced fusion artists on that show were not aware of it.
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    It is one of several very useful plugins (5D Monster, and Tinderbox) that I REALLY wish I could still use! Those plugs only work in Fusion 4, and Fusion 4 only runs in XP. XP Mode in Win 7 does not fool F4 into working. The Glass tool was particularly great for smoothing out voxel puffball tendency, and other FX. I have not quite figured out how to fake it.

    After communicating with Eyeon support about getting Fusion 4 to work in later versions of Windows, they were not willing to bother.
    Yeah the ol cig smoke challenge, still with fluids itīs tricky, hard to direct and often too soft fluid shading.
    Particles easier to direct, but you need to blur smooth, or load multiple pfx with slight offset, or render multiple passes with particle blur offset.

    Krita has a few awsome filters for smoothing out particle smoke..while maintaining sharpness where particles are denser, but no batch processing, fusion filters in later versions not so good.

    the big curl ala donut style will break particles too much, and small curl convections would be nice in the beginning of smoke.

    old particle sample

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