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    Opening the High Frontier

    https://vimeo.com/415105106

    Just finished this mini film promoting the exploration of Space.Took a long, long time to do all the elements...

    It was paid for work, Eagle Sarmont deserves credit for the script, and much of the technical design, particularly the Moon Outpost, and the Mars Habitat.

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    Fantastic work Nick.
    Gives me loads of inspiration.....
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    Thank you!
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    Very nice, makes you want to get up and go. About time we got back out there.
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    Nicee, very nice and music fits well .
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    In terms of graphics, the work is very good. But in terms of the concept of populating the solar system, I have only one question - why? We populate not only ourselves, as a biological species - but more importantly, what culture is the life of this biological species governed by? What have we created on Earth? Global trash and cannibal society, when the main value in life is how much money you get and how much you can buy goods. In this state of our cultures, which allow us to do all this on Earth - we will reproduce all this outside the Earth (which is always shown in Hollywood films about the future - the present in futuristic scenery, i.e. human development is assumed only in terms of technology, but not in terms of ethics of behavior). Therefore, before you go to inhabit other worlds - is it worth it to first build a normal life on your own planet?

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    Because we (as a species) have f....d our planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markc View Post
    Because we (as a species) have f....d our planet.
    In this regard, there is great hope that we will not be allowed anywhere from our planet until we change our culture. This would be not only very reasonable on the part of the more developed civilizations of the infinite universe - but also very responsible on their part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFF View Post
    In terms of graphics, the work is very good. But in terms of the concept of populating the solar system, I have only one question - why? We populate not only ourselves, as a biological species - but more importantly, what culture is the life of this biological species governed by? What have we created on Earth? Global trash and cannibal society, when the main value in life is how much money you get and how much you can buy goods. In this state of our cultures, which allow us to do all this on Earth - we will reproduce all this outside the Earth (which is always shown in Hollywood films about the future - the present in futuristic scenery, i.e. human development is assumed only in terms of technology, but not in terms of ethics of behavior). Therefore, before you go to inhabit other worlds - is it worth it to first build a normal life on your own planet?
    It is unavoidable, we have to take a yourney out to space, only so long our earth and sun can be a contributing factor for life.
    But as you sort of hint...the Question (if we care to survive as species longer than the limits of what the earth and the sun can provide)

    The question is When it is appropiate to start working towards that goal? ..and really not If,
    unless you care less of what happens to mankind and think the world should call it a day and end ..when time is up here on earth..
    but the when is important from the view of that we can not take care of our own planet it seems,
    maybe it is the time to start just to gain insight of the challenges and at the same time
    force ourself to come up with methods, technology, even humanoria advances etc.

    Itīs not gonna happen in my lifetime as in a colonisation..I donīt believe that, I reckon I have around 40-50 years max, unless I get a rejuvenating formula along the way.
    That doesnīt mean I would not care about these future endevours...I reckon a few research settlements, but talking about families, more than 100 years away..the least, and this is only mars.

    Thinking longer way to distant stars with planets that could be inahbited..and a star and a solar system that would be younger than our own...extremely hard to say, havenīt checked up on the conditions for the closest stars..or planets..and if itīs so much far away than those, we really need extreme speed, and a way to put ourself to hypersleep or prolonging of our lifes, and instruments to make sure we can probe these new worlds.
    To much of sci-fi thinking right now.

    But..I also think maybe itīs better we focused on making things better here, but I am not sure..if I with hindsight could say that a kick off start in these days helped us form tools that we can have use for here on earth within a decade etc, and making a strong impact for a better life..by all means, they should go for it..but who really knows about that?

    Just my thoughts on it, views from scientist, astronomers and others will probably put the mosaic to place better.

    AS for the work by Starbase..
    small critics, I would consider boosting up the light intensity from the sun, itīs quite bright..while in the vid the surfaces turns up quite a bit toned and greyed out without that harsh strong sunlight.

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    Many people take the current technocratic civilization of the earth for granted. Whereas it has very deep vices at its core. Such as the disproportionate moral and ethical development of society and technical equipment of people. This leads to the fact that we, in fact, remain on a very low, still cultural level - we already have colossal possibilities to destroy everything around us - the whole biosphere in the first place.
    That is, this path is corrupted, because it already puts us on the verge of a general biospheric catastrophe.
    But in the past there were other types of civilization development - biological type.
    I.e. at least we have two concepts - biosphere subordinated to human technosphere or human technosphere built into biosphere of the planet. So far, we have been moving according to the scenario of biosphere subordination to the technosphere. But many people already centuries ago saw what it could lead to - and unfortunately they were not mistaken.
    Accordingly, now we have practically no choice how to try to reconstruct the whole global civilization for the model of technosphere embedded in the biosphere.
    With balanced consumption, humanity without harm to the biosphere can increase up to 40 billion people. This is much, much more than now. Nevertheless, with the consumption fashion set by the current culture of global civilization, we have already turned the planet into a trash and put it on the brink of survival.
    A change in the cultural matrix is ​​a change in the meaning of people's lives. The current meaning of people's lives is high consumption. But humanity must one day move to a different meaning of life - knowledge and concern for the environment and the preservation of the genetic potential of people.
    If humanity fails to take this path in time, then it has only two options and both are very sad. One - the planet’s noosphere will answer humanity to its thoughtless consumption by some catastrophic scenario, for example, a virus that will destroy all of humanity or most of it.
    The second - those who seek monopoly control of global civilization will do the same, leaving some part of the world's population as servants. who will be given an antidote. Both the one and the other options will put very much humanity away from the current level - the first option may not leave any chances. And the second option will for a long time consolidate the division of people into a race of lords, “Gods,” and a race of service people. Which is also very far from what should be on Earth if people want to build an intelligent life.
    But judging by ancient myths, this has already happened in the history of mankind and everything ended in failure. So repeating the same scenario is the same as deliberately stepping on a rake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFF View Post
    The current meaning of people's lives is high consumption.
    A very stong generalization...Neither do I or loads of other people fits that generalization.


    And a suggestion, and you are welcome to critic my line constructions if it also looks messy in some way.
    but I would suggest if you can split your text in to paragraphs of perhaps 4 lines, it will be so much more attractive and easier to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFF View Post
    The current meaning of people's lives is high consumption.
    A very stong generalization...Neither do I or loads of other people fits that generalization.


    And a suggestion, and you are welcome to critic my line constructions if it also looks messy in some way.
    but I would suggest if you can split your text in to paragraphs of perhaps 4 lines, it will be so much more attractive and easier to read.


    And yes, the world is screwed up in so many ways, has been, and will be at many levels, but there is also people working towards better futures.
    Or we can resign to all those tragic facts, and without hope just take a strong drink ..party till the end of night and get the most out of that day, then take a sleeping pill that lasts the rest of our lifes.

    In my little narrow world view perhaps, I am picturing maybe two factors as the most important for mankind to deal with.

    1. Energy supply that will be abundant, clean as hell and free for all..as much as it can, if ever.
    2. Population reduction.

    And more..but then it will become too political and too much around religion etc, all that has and will be debated for ages...who is right and wrong.
    I find it interesting though to discuss what an endavour such as space colonization would brings to us as in benefits, enlightment..but also challenges, and that on many levels..technological, morally..and much more.

    One thing that comes to my mind from time to time, what if there was a disaster, Yellowstone vulcano erupting enourmously or several vulcanos within a short time span, or a huge comet asteroid, or deadly virus etc, or nukes ..something like that.

    Most likely there will be humans left alive..and continue to live..but perhaps in misery and with a population reduces massively..but then, what if that remaining group of mankind would need to start
    a new civilization, which inventions will we loose out on, knowledge etc..perhaps the majority of all the knowledge we have in various libraries will be lost, and only a few of us will have that in our heads to start pass down to the next generations.
    Just wondering which findings may be very hard to discover, things in science that may have been discovered by accident.

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    The most important reason for moving quickly and in multiple directions into the high frontier is that civilization will be able to fragment as it is clearly ready to do. The human human haters will be free to live their lives as they see fit, others will take human technology and it’s advancement to places we can’t see from here.

    Space provides the resources to let each take their own course, we need more people like Musk to be bold enough to take the first steps. Earth even in our worst nightmares will be more habitable than the moon, mars, safer than constructed habitats, it won’t be a polluted atmosphere that drives people from Earth. It will be people who still have a desire to explore that will lead the way, it will be the people that who want self determination, and yes wealth, that will live there.

    I’m glad there were people that believe in the high frontier that hired Starbase1, Godspeed to their dreams.
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    Just as long as we are taking care of our s..t, and learn how to grow things weīll be fine
    Just as in the martian


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