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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Yep Spline patching would work for this no problem. I did model Boeing 747, some trains, trucks and few more product design stuff with same technique so it's not just for cars .
    Do you utilize the one half principle when doing that? and then mirror?

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    Of-course, it would be foolish to model symmetrical stuff twice .

    although i often check spline cage for mirror and smooth-out spline cage for curved surfaces across both ends/halves so i don't get pointy seam in middle but one smooth contiguous surface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Of-course, it would be foolish to model symmetrical stuff twice .

    although i often check spline cage for mirror and smooth-out spline cage for curved surfaces across both ends/halves so i don't get pointy seam in middle but one smooth contiguous surface.
    Thought so, it was merely a wondering of wether or not the spline shapes used would be easier to work with as full profiles than half the profile when connecting things.

    Senseis Easy spline, or new lcad nurbs perhaps.

    Lw cad has a reduced price now as well I think ..if that is still valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLexx View Post
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    This discussion reminded me to clear this from my "plan to purchase" list. The purchase today was automatic with instant download. I believe the occasional group buy-ins are the only things that actually require human or feline intervention.
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    Thanks Lewis, a 747 feels like a good analogy for the kind of shapes!

    (Plus I've occasionally wanted to model planes, and not taken it on - the Stratolaunch and Buran carrying Antonov AN-225 spring to mind!)

    I'm still gathering references at the moment, but I expect to buy the tutorials soon!
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    No problem ping me if you get stuck in some areas of your plane and i'll try to help but you definitely should get detailed understanding on how splines and spline patching work in LWM from tutorial so it's just a matter of rewiring your brain for different subject but procedure is always same .
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    Now bought the tutorials. A bit daunted by the sheer amount of video!
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    Hahah, don't worry, you probably only need spline patching parts anyway (unless you want to create same full car ). But i recommend you look at least first few hours.
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    May the sauce be with you starbase1's Avatar
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    Quite frankly - so far I've only looked at the introduction, and I'm already learning useful stuff. I've definitely got into a deep rut over which tools I use.
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    OK, I'm seeing a recommendation for DTools Edge Slide, but the link in the plugin database is not working, and not having any luck with google.

    Is it available still, or is there a substitute?
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    And now on part one, I discover that all these years when I have been keeping excel open beside Modeller while entering info in imperial units, I could have just typed in an inch symbol, and it would have converted for me...

    I mean, I make heavy use of the ability to enter a calculation into a numeric field, and really miss it in other software, so feeling distinctly dumb right now.
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    Heheh yeah LW calculates all units in it's fields, that's one of greatest little features, no need for calculators you can even mix units and type in 1m+2"+3ft and it'll work .

    For the DTools Edge Slide, sadly Developer is long gone form LW land but plugin was free and he made new version (64b also) called DUnislide.
    Just drop me an e-mail and i'll send it to you (it was/is free plugin)

    So you find tutorial informative so far even for ordinary LW tricks not just Car modeling ?
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    May the sauce be with you starbase1's Avatar
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    I've barely got started, not really had the chance to focus on it as much as I would like.

    But yes, so far it's great in showing me better ways of modelling - like I said I;m really stuck in a rut with tools I use. I mean, I do rockets like you do cars, so a lot of it is just cylinder, bevel the end in, bevel the end up... Then add details.

    Thing is, the US rockets are all dimensioned in &%$!ing inches! I must have spent weeks in total doing those conversions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Heheh yeah LW calculates all units in it's fields, that's one of greatest little features, no need for calculators you can even mix units and type in 1m+2"+3ft and it'll work .

    ... except in Motion tab for setting Position limits. Drove my just that more crazy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by starbase1 View Post
    Thing is, the US rockets are all dimensioned in &%$!ing inches! I must have spent weeks in total doing those conversions...
    My dad was a mechanical engineer. Held several patents, etc. Talking to him one day & he says "You're not gonna believe this. There's a European metric, and a Japanese metric." Something to do with thread pitch or whatever.

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