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    Face Expressions Using Control Points?

    Was poking around and found this video by Fabio Annunziata
    He has a facerig that drives morphs instead of using sliders and
    posted a link in the comments showing what he based his setup on...

    That video isn't available anymore on youtube

    Would anyone have any ideas about his setup?



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    Goes bump in the night RebelHill's Avatar
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    Its just combination shapes... you use null positions to drive morphs either via expressions or nodes. The real trick is in the shapes set that's used.
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    Haven't really had the opportunity to set up a face rig.... have used morphs, of course, but would really like to see a full rig like this working just so I could get a better idea of how it works.

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    Thanks Rebelhill, when I get serious about rigging I'll be checking out your videos.. impressive stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPSchmidt View Post
    Haven't really had the opportunity to set up a face rig.... have used morphs, of course, but would really like to see a full rig like this working just so I could get a better idea of how it works.



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    RH, is this still in development? The last build I received only works in 2018. In 2019, it kicks a licensing error.

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    Here is the scene with the settings for the face animation interface, which the author Luca Burchietti kindly provided me (I hope he will not mind that I posted the scene here):


    Face_CTRL_Export.zip

    Just add a Nodal Displacement modifier (attached to Mitro_v010_head character) from this scene to the scene with your character and replace the morphs with yours.
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    Mighty Nice!   

    sidenote; would still recommend you guys take a look at the RH technique.

    Gorden also made a nice setup together with Kvaalen, a custom Expresso plugin, available in this book >
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-li...sr=1-1-catcorr
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    Quote Originally Posted by erikals View Post
    Gorden also made a nice setup together with Kvaalen, a custom Expresso plugin...
    The Kvaalen site is still up, and still has the face plugin Joytrol to download - would that be the same thing, or similar ?
    http://kvaalen.com/jt/index.html

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    similar, not 100% the same...
    more advanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erikals View Post
    similar, not 100% the same...
    more advanced.

    What is this? It's not Joytrol, right?

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    I'm pretty sure joytrol stopped working (or stopped working properly) quite some time ago in a previous version of LW (somewhere around v9/10 perhaps it was). Either way, it had limitations against setting up your own woth nulls which, done nodally, is very easy and gives great flexibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OFF View Post
    What is this? It's not Joytrol, right?
    no, as far as i know, JT stopped working in LightWave 8

    this one "Expresso JC" (Expresso JoyControl?) looks to work in LightWave 11.6, from tests.


    i believe "RH Face Rigging" goes much more into detail on non-linear facial animation.
    an important aspect, less covered with other "simpler" setups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raymondtrace View Post
    The last build I received only works in 2018. In 2019, it kicks a licensing error.
    Not sure what's up there... works ok here on 19.

    Email with your info and I'll see if I can find whats going on.
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    Last edited by erikals; 03-01-2020 at 10:30 AM.
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