Bullet Dynamics Improvements-Cloning ragdoll bone dynamics, turning off force display

[prometheus]

Hi folks,

Haven´t played around with bullet dynamics for quite a while, but just had a little inspiration to do so now.
Just wondering, working with the bullet bone dynamics...was there ever some trick or script to clone a ragdoll for instance with full constraint cloning?
as it is now..even if you use clone hiearchy, the ragdoll clone will not be correctly attached in the setup for the constraints, and it´s very tedious to go through it all to correct it.

A workaround is to instead luse load item from scene and choose another ragdoll, but it should have to work like that.

Also, when using forces and trying to tweak it, when it is selected..it will automaticly show guides from the force, like velocity etc, but sometimes if you have objects right inside of it..it´s hard to see it, so a suggestion would be to have an option to turn show guides of, just like we almost can do with standard wind forces.

Also..about time to look in to how we can have bullet forces affect particles, and VDB gas solver, and maybe also the best fluid tool for lightwave (turbulenceFD)

you guys responsible do not want me to look the other way to blender for that, cause it can do just all of that..same forces affect fluids, particles and bullet rigid and parts bodies, and the forces can be reducuced or turned of per each kind of dynamics.

[lardbros]

Hi folks,

Haven´t played around with bullet dynamics for quite a while, but just had a little inspiration to do so now.
Just wondering, working with the bullet bone dynamics...was there ever some trick or script to clone a ragdoll for instance with full constraint cloning?
as it is now..even if you use clone hiearchy, the ragdoll clone will not be correctly attached in the setup for the constraints, and it´s very tedious to go through it all to correct it.

A workaround is to instead luse load item from scene and choose another ragdoll, but it should have to work like that.

Also, when using forces and trying to tweak it, when it is selected..it will automaticly show guides from the force, like velocity etc, but sometimes if you have objects right inside of it..it´s hard to see it, so a suggestion would be to have an option to turn show guides of, just like we almost can do with standard wind forces.

Also..about time to look in to how we can have bullet forces affect particles, and VDB gas solver, and maybe also the best fluid tool for lightwave (turbulenceFD)

you guys responsible do not want me to look the other way to blender for that, cause it can do just all of that..same forces affect fluids, particles and bullet rigid and parts bodies, and the forces can be reducuced or turned of per each kind of dynamics.

Report it, with content and steps to reproduce it, then they should be able to fix it. Might have been an oversight?

[ianr]

Hi folks,

Haven´t played around with bullet dynamics for quite a while, but just had a little inspiration to do so now.
Just wondering, working with the bullet bone dynamics...was there ever some trick or script to clone a ragdoll for instance with full constraint cloning?
as it is now..even if you use clone hiearchy, the ragdoll clone will not be correctly attached in the setup for the constraints, and it´s very tedious to go through it all to correct it.

A workaround is to instead luse load item from scene and choose another ragdoll, but it should have to work like that.

Also, when using forces and trying to tweak it, when it is selected..it will automaticly show guides from the force, like velocity etc, but sometimes if you have objects right inside of it..it´s hard to see it, so a suggestion would be to have an option to turn show guides of, just like we almost can do with standard wind forces.

Also..about time to look in to how we can have bullet forces affect particles, and VDB gas solver, and maybe also the best fluid tool for lightwave (turbulenceFD)

you guys responsible do not want me to look the other way to blender for that, cause it can do just all of that..same forces affect fluids, particles and bullet rigid and parts bodies, and the forces can be reducuced or turned of per each kind of dynamics.

Send in an update report/ ticket so they get it E

[prometheus]

Report it, with content and steps to reproduce it, then they should be able to fix it. Might have been an oversight?

Maybe, it´s perhaps not a bug, but something they missed in the development of bullet constraints and cloning.
It´s the same in 2015 and in 2019, you can´t clone a ragdoll hiearchy and expect to have a ragdoll properly cloned with the constraint attached, they become empty.

[lardbros]

In my opinion, it should work... cloning a hierarchy should re-make connections, rather than break them. Worth reporting nonetheless I reckon.

[prometheus]

In my opinion, it should work... cloning a hierarchy should re-make connections, rather than break them. Worth reporting nonetheless I reckon.

Well it doesn´t..should work? I do not know..we sure would like it to, but each structure needs to be evaluated correctly, just because clone hiearchy is there doesn´t mean it can do magic on all new stuff, if there is new engines and more complex stuff...ergo I am not surprised it fails to clone properly with all bullet connections intact.

[lardbros]

What I mean is... we have a clone hierarchy function, so it should work with all hierarchies really. Whether they are bullet, or characters or anything. It should work really.

[jwiede]

Well it doesn´t..should work? I do not know..we sure would like it to, but each structure needs to be evaluated correctly, just because clone hiearchy is there doesn´t mean it can do magic on all new stuff, if there is new engines and more complex stuff...ergo I am not surprised it fails to clone properly with all bullet connections intact.

So did you file a report on it?

[prometheus]

So did you file a report on it?

Nope..I will, have to do some other things today.