Cheaper (or faster?) CPUs are coming

[Lemon Wolf]

and yes, you followed me from that conversation to here, so that just shows how personal you are taking it, and your whole reason for being here is just you have an issue with me and you just want to try and discredit me.

You are taking it just as personal.
Discredit you? You did that all by yourself in this thread a couple of times already i dont have to or want to do that.
The fact remains i presented you with all the information you need, you refuse to even read or acknowledge it which means you dont have a basis for argument.

well 3 or 4 people over 15 years, considering how opinionated im am aint bad, and it has nothing to do with the subject matters, just the way you go about it.

Stubborn is a better description, opinionated is an understatement.
Well how do i "go about it"?
You dont even know, because you havent really read any of my posts.
I explained things to you in recent posts, provided videos that would solve our issue once and for all, even told you there that we wouldnt have to fight about this anymore if you would at least consider watching it.
You refused to listen. You continued rambling. It always takes two for a fight, i offered you a way out more than once, you continued to ramble. Its on you!
Honestly i actually care about the discussion, you dont, you dont want to be challenged and you feel offended when someone does.
It doesnt really matter what i write you either wont even read it or you will just ramble some more. How unreasonable.
If any other person would read this thread from start to finish they would notice that all i did was offer evidence, proof and lots of information, your responses were attempts at mockery, arrogance, smugness, unwillingness to review facts and evidence, all because you take it personal and dont want to be challenged.

[rustythe1]

and in not so many words I accepted some of your facts, so ill do partly the right thing and make it plainer,

I agree those clock speeds or near to would be how it works under most conditions or almost all, but you have to accept the fact that those illustrations were obtained through the same methods I obtained all mine, none of them are from 100% reliability for the simple fact of timing of release and the fact intel doesn't fully disclose that information by its own statement, so had to be sourced through illegal or product testing means ,
also you have to accept that the way intels own website is that worded implies it can be one way or the other depending circumstance or even individual product differences (e.g. they cant predict which core or cores will perform at, above or bellow stated)
and also that terminology like "boost" can be taken in more than one way depending on manufacture, it doesn't really matter if its clocking or not, to me and many others clocking evolves permanently changing the profile to increase the performance, where as boost works dynamically, but fine if you want to call it clocking well just call it "clocked too" (even though most pc forums still refer to it as "boost" as most the msi and asus boards pull there settings from the maximum boost profile)

ill even apologize if you think im insinuating that you are defiantly linked to other users, I didn't accuse you fully because im just not 100% sold on it, but the way you went about things just seems very fishy and incredibly similar in subject matter, attitude and terminology (and the fact you have followed me through at least 3 threads on more than one forum) you could have easily just voiced your opinion for a few posts then let it go, and I would have done the same.

[Lemon Wolf]

and in not so many words I accepted some of your facts, so ill do partly the right thing and make it plainer,

I agree those clock speeds or near to would be how it works under most conditions or almost all, but you have to accept the fact that those illustrations were obtained through the same methods I obtained all mine, none of them are from 100% reliability for the simple fact of timing of release and the fact intel doesn't fully disclose that information by its own statement, so had to be sourced through illegal or product testing means ,
also you have to accept that the way intels own website is that worded implies it can be one way or the other depending circumstance or even individual product differences (e.g. they cant predict which core or cores will perform at, above or bellow stated)
and also that terminology like "boost" can be taken in more than one way depending on manufacture, it doesn't really matter if its clocking or not, to me and many others clocking evolves permanently changing the profile to increase the performance, where as boost works dynamically, but fine if you want to call it clocking well just call it "clocked too" (even though most pc forums still refer to it as "boost" as most the msi and asus boards pull there settings from the maximum boost profile)

You know what, i agree with you.
In some areas it really does depend on how you look at it, because it can be interpreted in one way or the other way.

ill even apologize if you think im insinuating that you are defiantly linked to other users, I didn't accuse you fully because im just not 100% sold on it, but the way you went about things just seems very fishy and incredibly similar in subject matter, attitude and terminology (and the fact you have followed me through at least 3 threads on more than one forum) you could have easily just voiced your opinion for a few posts then let it go, and I would have done the same.

I accept that apology and i am really not some other person.
And i apologize for being pushy in some of my statements. I do get carried away sometimes.

[rustythe1]

Thank you
easy, and we can all now carry on, and I even got the result I wanted from my first post so thanks to erikals for intervening

[TheLexx]

Nice one gentlemen and please forgive me for finding some fun in those last nine pages. Only question remaining is how much coffee did Steve have to drink to follow the thread ?

[rustythe1]

I think we need a new sheriff, I asked him to stop me about 4 days ago!

[rustythe1]

but hey, here is a conspiracy theory for you to mull over, in the past, just after a special price offer finishes, it goes deafly quiet, then out of the blue, brand new lightwave!

[Chuck]

I think we need a new sheriff, I asked him to stop me about 4 days ago!

Steve's on vacation, and my reaction times have really slowed down in my old age.

[SBowie]

Nice one gentlemen and please forgive me for finding some fun in those last nine pages.

Masochist.

Only question remaining is how much coffee did Steve have to drink to follow the thread ?

I have just returned from a peaceful time in Saskatchewan, watching giant vee's of geese flocking South, listening to coyotes yipping and elk bugling over a nice campfire. Did i miss all of this? Hmmmm. I can't think of a diplomatic answer.

Anyway, it seems for once to have resolved itself amicably, so I think I'll skip reading all of the back and forth and hope it's done with.