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    Advanced 3 sports title template question

    Hi, all —
    Hoping to upgrade to a new TC this year (still using TC40 for sports webcasting and all other video production here at the high school where I work). I see Advanced Edition 3 adds sports titling templates and continues DataLink functionality. Promotional material references scoreboard and clock data import via DataLink too. Does anyone know if this would eliminate the need — at least at an entry level — to invest in a third-party system for interfacing to something like a Daktronics Allsport 5000 controller to import such real-time data for onscreen scoreboard info?

    I already have the 25-pin to USB adapter cable which should allow me to connect directly to the Allsport 5000, but don't know how easy it would be to hack that data straight into the TriCaster, where there are systems in the thousands of dollars that are meant to do that. Granted, those include tons of animations and other stuff I won't necessarily need. I'd be happy getting realtime score and clock data into something at least someone nice-looking on, say, a TriCaster Mini.

    Does anyone know more about these new sports templates and connectivity to Daktronics scoreboard controllers?

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    The method of connecting a scoreboard to the TriCaster with DataLink is the same as with LiveText.

    The sports templates are additional CG templates that work just like the templates included with your TC40, they are templates with scorebars, scorebugs, sidebars and lower thirds.
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    In order to connect Dak All Sport 5000s to our datalink module you will need a Daktronics All Sport CG that will convert the Dak feed into serial data. Once you the serial connection you will need to convert it to USB for use in the TriCaster.
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    Kane and Zane, thank you — I'm still wrapping my head around this (my present setup is that I'm just using a laptop PC with LiveText and a very simple text file for entering home score, visitor score, and period of play... student updates data and saves the text file, then LiveText updates the score; it's primitive but works, although it also precludes game clock or any other synced data... but with a TC40, that's about as complex as I can get).

    So if I'm able to budget for a TC1 or at least a TC Mini, and get the All Sport CG, I should be able to tap into the All Sport 5000 controller and get real-time scoreboard data direct to the TriCaster? Does anyone in the scoring booth need to do anything extra to keep me in the loop, or does the CG automatically tap into all real-time data from the main controller?

    Please forgive what may seem like very rudimentary questions. You can tell I'm a few curves behind the lead horse in this race, and I'm not finding much online by way of how-to instruction for this stuff. As it is, I built my present scoring system myself by just reading NewTek manuals. It's nothing fancy but I'm proud of what it is.

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    The All Sport CG will automatically pull in the data from the All Sport 5000, the board operator doesn't need to do anything additional. It allows you to bring in the clock as well, if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michof View Post
    So if I'm able to budget for a TC1 or at least a TC Mini, and get the All Sport CG, I should be able to tap into the All Sport 5000 controller and get real-time scoreboard data direct to the TriCaster? Does anyone in the scoring booth need to do anything extra to keep me in the loop, or does the CG automatically tap into all real-time data from the main controller?
    Once connected the data from the scoreboard will automatically appear in the TriCaster. Nothing extra should need to be done one their scorekeepers end. One the TriCaster side you need to configure DataLink to the sport you would doing, that will tell the system what data it is trying to decode.

    Another option besides the All Sports CG, is Sportzcast's Scorebot. They make an interface that connected to many different scoreboard systems so if you have more than Daktronics it might be a good fit. The Sportzcast will output information that can be read into DataLink on the TriCaster.
    https://www.scorecasts.net/
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    Beat you to it.
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    You may want to take a look at SuiteCG MultiSport Scoreboard. We're very close to adding team rosters and player headshots in to the product. It will not plug in to external data sources at the moment, but it is on the feature list. In the mean time, you can also bring in live clocks as picture-in-picture sources, as shown here.

    Many high schools use it for it's robust, yet easy-to-use interface and the ability to go from very basic (score only) to advanced (a basic stats set, clock, pregame and halftime graphics, etc...).

    It generates pre-made graphics as NDI, but also outputs data as XML or CSV so you could export data to your Tricaster and populate their templates with the dynamic data feed.
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    So we're budgeting for School Year '19-'20. If I were to request that we purchase a TriCaster Mini HD-4sdi, since that's the "Advanced" model, will that come with the newest Advanced Edition software, or is that still a paid upgrade? Since I'm interested in the new sports overlays and a few other of the new features, and the sports graphics in particular are part of how I'm pitching the new TC (remember I'm on a TC40 now), I need to know how much I'm budgeting to get the Mini with the new features.

    Thanks again in advance.

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    A new TriCaster Mini will come with Advanced Edition and you can install AE3 for free. It might have AE2 as the installed version out of the box and you can upgrade it. (I'm not sure if the factory image has been updated yet).
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