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    Quote Originally Posted by jwiede View Post
    When such "unmodified alphabet keystroke" situations DO arise in their docs (it's not common, but does happen), both Apple and Microsoft tend towards maximum clarity in their descriptions, using keystroke fonts (sometimes), or otherwise clearly and explicitly disambiguating the precise keystroke(s) required.
    If you could point me to examples I would happily take a look. For right now, I think that marking a keyboard shortcut as "L" might get mistaken for "Shift-l", but just marking it as "l", in the font I have available to me, would be worse. Equally, if people did actually rtfm they could compare to using the keyboard shortcut for Box or Ball, which they might know are Shift-X and Shift-O respectively and thus deduce that if there's no Shift- before the L perhaps it is just a lower case L made easy to read.

    Anyway, let's leave this now because we are going round in circles. If you have something pm me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeVee View Post
    Equally, if people did actually rtfm they could compare to using the keyboard shortcut for Box or Ball, which they might know are Shift-X and Shift-O respectively and thus deduce that if there's no Shift- before the L perhaps it is just a lower case L made easy to read.
    (I added underlining above, as highlight)

    I think the way you've handled it is adequate, I was simply pointing out to COBRASoft that the citations used were dealing with a distinctly different scenario than this one. I'll see what I can find, and send via PM.

    [nit-picky]
    Above's an example of "presumption of a priori knowledge of LW" that I've been pointing out as a recurring issue in the docs. The customers who are most likely confused about the "shortcut convention issue" are also unlikely to have the knowledge in question to resolve it -- the users who will recognize such patterns aren't the ones likely to be confused about such conventions.
    [/nit-picky]

    I have deep respect and appreciation for your efforts, just trying to help (and too spot-on as an example to pass up ).
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    @jwiede understood and appreciated Unfortunately, with as sprawling a mass as the LightWave docs are perhaps the solution is to have a page entitled "So, is this your first version of LightWave?" where the conventions are set out - the a priori in that case would be that you at least read that page

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    Just viewing the forums and saw this topic, so I'll link to a video I did some years ago showing the modeling of a banana, perhaps it's similar to others already posted but it can't hurt to add it.


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    What? You're actually dragging this thread back on-topic?! How very dare you!

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