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    Question LiveText "commentary" in lower third area

    Greetings,

    We want to insert "running commentary" text into a live show (lower third) and am wondering if anyone could share experience with doing this efficiently. We're imagining someone sitting at a separate NDI-enabled computer typing in the comments while the show is going on. Does this feed somehow into LiveText?

    Thank you as always! Will trade for advice on anything we know!

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    Are you looking for a "real time automated" solution or just someone to simply copy and paste something from a second computer?

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    Hi there, we're looking for someone sitting at a second computer and, in real-time, send summary comment text into a pre-defined area of the live Program, hopefully without requiring any extra work from the tricaster engineer (other than making the lower-third region live at the start).

    It looks like (for a mere $995) we could use LiveText running on a separate NDI computer to do this -- any other/cheaper options?
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    What about the NDI Adobe Creative Cloud Solution?
    I haven't use it as of yet, but if it works with Abode Products, might be something that you can do from Photoshop or another Adobe product.
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    Free is an option! (If you have AE)

    There is actually several ways to do this.

    First build the lower 3rd on the Livetext on the machine. Then setup the graphic for Data Link.

    Once that is setup you can either use Web Keys through the a chrome browser or use something like Kane's App:

    http://kanelp7.wixsite.com/kanesworld/datalinktitler

    I'll see if I can located the video on how to use web keys. Those are cool because you can assign pictures and text! So good for a twitter or something that involves a logo and text.

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    Here is the Web Keys tutorial. Maybe this will work for you?

    https://vimeo.com/144146990

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    Red face Thank you!

    A big tip-of-the-hat to you! So appreciate these great suggestions & resources!!
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    Yeah, even though those videos are out date now they still come in handy every now and then. Hope it works great for you.

    I use Data Link all the time. I have came up with some creative ways to use it in the sports production world.

    It is just some much better to use when you have a lot of titles and that spreadsheet app was a game changer for me!

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    We just recently did live captioning for a graduation using a product called Text-on-Top. Basically the stenographer was live captioning, that was on a computer with a green background that we then put over a Power Point full green slide. That computer into the TC and then that input chroma keyed on a DSK. It worked very well. Just another idea, although not free.

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    Cool

    The Data Link Chrome app is FREE and it's EXCELLENT. We just added a simple notepad editor to Chrome Notepad extension and you simply type in text, then select it, context-click and select the WebKey to send it to. Screenshot attached. Amazing!! Thanks!!
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    In this context, it might be worth mentioning that the DataLink extension for Chrome can send multiple lines of selected text to supply values for multiple keys with one keypress.
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    Hi folks,

    We used the DataLink Chrome extension, along with the Chrome Notepad extension, to add live commentary snippets to last Friday's show -- a great addition!

    We had one issue though -- the engineer was busy doing other things and didn't always see the new commentary strings coming in from DataLink, so some of them never got live. We didn't want to leave the feed element on the screen the whole time --
    maybe we have to do that? -- I'm wondering if there might be some macro combo that could specify "when a new 'WebKey 01' arrives take this element live for 15 seconds, then take it down."

    Asking too much???

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lance.a.simon View Post
    I'm wondering if there might be some kmacro combo that could specify "when a new 'WebKey 01' arrives take this element live for 15 seconds, then take it down."
    Writing a macro to display a DSK/KEY layer for a specified time would be a simple matter, but macros are not able to perform any sort of logical operations (if/then, for example). You would need to issue the macro trigger manually, in this case perhaps externally along with the key value update.

    This would be simple enough, by several means, but connecting it to an operation in the Chrome plugin would be more challenging ... might be simpler, and arguably safer, to make it (display) a separate operation anyway.
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    You can do this easily with PowerPoint and the SimpleSupers.com app for Windows. Type your text /graphics in PowerPoint, activate SimpleSupers and it generates an alpha channel. Send this out of your computer graphics displays for key and fill to your switcher into upstream or downstream keyer. Very inexpensive solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevincopeland View Post
    You can do this easily with PowerPoint and the SimpleSupers.com app for Windows. Type your text /graphics in PowerPoint, activate SimpleSupers and it generates an alpha channel. Send this out of your computer graphics displays for key and fill to your switcher into upstream or downstream keyer. Very inexpensive solution.
    How would this be automatically displayed on DataLink value changes?
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