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    ISO PTZ camera for TC460 that can shoot PORTRAIT mode

    Greetings,

    For those at NAB (and those not)... for my little green-screen studio, in order to get full-length talent shots, I need a PTZ camera that can shoot either normal landscape or PORTRAIT mode! The Panasonic PTZs are great BUT they cannot be turned or configured to shoot portrait mode.

    Help please!

    Thanks so much as always,

    Lance
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    Hi Lance,

    I don't follow...as with any video camera, you simply turn the PTZ camera sideways, meaning the base would be vertical, such as mounted to a wall rather than ceiling. Should be able to accomplish this with most tripods as well. No video camera has a "portrait" mode, you just re-orient the camera. In the ME, you then rotate the image 90 degrees to get the talent upright again.

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    I'm guessing most off-the-shelf PTZ cameras won't operate properly on their side because I'm sure the pan mechanism isn't designed to fight gravity. You might need a more robust robotic camera mount with a standard camera mounted sideways.
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    Yes it seems simple and I thought it would be but the Panasonic AW-HE120 PTZs do not support it! Here's the note I got back from Panasonic:

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    Lance,

    Sorry it’s not possible to output a portrait view via the menus. The picture can only be flipped for upside down mounting. And unfortunately I don’t recommend mounting it on its side.


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    "You might need a more robust robotic camera mount with a standard camera mounted sideways."

    OK -- any suggestions?
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    Good point about the motorized functions not liking a sideways mount, however for green screen shooting for Virtual Set, camera is stationary (once set) so I don't see a big issue. In my experience though, PTZ cameras don't output the best image for keying, better off with a regular video camcorder anyways where you have more control over camera settings (and better image potentially).

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    Jeff

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    I agree, a PTZ will not be the best answer here. Sideways mounting will possibly invalidate the warranty on the units.

    Most greenscreen stuff is lockdown, so a more conventional camera may be the best overall solution, even if not the most convenient.
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    For that much money not only should it work sideways, be good for keying, it should also paint your house!
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    Yup! So I just set up one of my Canon VIXIA HF-G40 HD camcorders on it's side and you are correct -- got that beautiful PORTRAIT image I need. For some reason I was fixated on the PTZs.

    THANKS AS ALWAYS. What an amazing community this is, you folks have saved my butt about 20 times (so far)!

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    This brings me back to when we used this tecnique to make our SD camera into "HD". We were also shooting against a green screen but 720x480 mounted at 90 degrees gave us a 480x720 image. Perfect for 720p video! Suddenly our SD cameras were giving us great HD output (OK, not full HD, but this was 10+ years ago).
    Now you could do the same with a 1080p camera and put the images into 4K productions and have them look somewhat decent.

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