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    Joe Alter liked my idea Crowdfunding Shave for Lightwave

    Joe Alter just liked my idea Crowdfunding Shave for Lightwave on Facebook!

    What do we have to to make this happen and bring Joe back into the Lightwave Fold.
    We definitely need an alternative to Fiber FX wacky and shaky setup.

    Any ideas?

    http://www.joealter.com/

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    I have paid a few bucks to this site
    https://www.indiegogo.com/#/picks_for_you

    Reco

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    I would ask Joe how much the community would have to raise for the project.. Do a kickstarter or IndeGoGo.. Just keep in mind those sites take a percentage so you need to factor that into the target goal amount!
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    with subscription i'll never own it, so it's certainly a no-go for me.

    others might think differently. maybe set up a forum poll and see if there is interest.
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    I should update my Avatar Verlon's Avatar
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    ditto on the subscription idea. I like Shave back in the day, and loved the support Joe provided his product, I try really hard not to rent.

    Beyond this, I have given money to both Kickstarter and indegogo.
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    I don't mind subscription options at all for high quality specialty tools. Having shave in lightwave again would be awesome! If this doesn't work out, try the Ornatrix people too. They seem forth coming.
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    Well given the quality of Shave, I think $225 for a yearly rental is incredibly reasonable. I would support that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erikals View Post
    with subscription i'll never own it, so it's certainly a no-go for me.

    others might think differently. maybe set up a forum poll and see if there is interest.
    yep, that was my thought too, and the other thing is in the next lightwave there is a new fiber fx using geometry that could be a lot better (but will we ever know?)
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    Personally I prefer owning the software. I do subscribe to some... but only because I have to, and I rather not have to. Besides.. I do much more than art.. coding, music etc.. So I am not always doing 3D (out of time) and having a subscription sitting on the shelf is quite wasteful.

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    I would donate to the cause

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    there are several things that puts me on the side line here.

    - subscription > that's a no-go.
    - legal disputes 1 > Alter in a legal twist with Disney
    - legal disputes 2 > Alter in a legal twist with Yeti Fur
      (who's next?... maybe that's unfair, but it puts up a question mark)
    - year's ago, Alter got tired of developing for LW and left it, will it happen again?
    - year's ago, Alter got tired of developing for C4D and left it, leaving C4D users in the dust.
    - how does Shave work with feathers?
    - how does Shave compare to say, Blender?

    i'm being harsh here, but it's important to reflect on this.
    Last edited by erikals; 09-22-2016 at 05:47 AM.
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    I like Joe, seemed that Brad & Co chewed him ,back in the day.

    HIS WAS THE ONLY SCRUBBABLE TIMELINE THAT WORKED in LW
    AT ONE POINT. SHAVE was FUNKY

    E good research, But which way are the Legals, is he at them,
    or are they at him?

    Anyway in my book, Joe's a fair dude ask him for a X year
    comittment in return for deep dev collaboration with LW3DG.

    Solve's one programming problem for Mr. Powers to get Joe
    to overhaul completely Fiber F/X's once & for all!

    p.s. Wavers like to own pluggies.

    P.P.S. lots of cyber beers 4 Julez

    Quote Originally Posted by erikals View Post
    there are several things that puts me on the side line here.

    - subscription > that's a no-go.
    - legal disputes 1 > Alter in a legal twist with Disney
    - legal disputes 2 > Alter in a legal twist with Yeti Fur
      (who's next?... maybe that's unfair, but it puts up a question mark)
    - year's ago, Alter got tired of developing for LW and left it, will it happen again?
    - year's ago, Alter got tired of developing for C4D and left it, leaving C4D users in the dust.
    - how does Shave work with feathers?
    - how does Shave compare to say, Blender?

    i'm being harsh here, but it's important to reflect on this.
    Last edited by ianr; 09-22-2016 at 06:22 AM.

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    It's true. Development isn't cheap and people have to feed their kids..
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    Good grief, just checked the 9.0 video.
    Makes me pine for what we used to have. (sigh)

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    well, certainly FiberFX is the worst Fur tool in the industry.

    so anything else is VERY welcome.

    so many times i wonder why the LightWave Beta team was sleeping.
    or was it LWG?

    the "improvements" to FiberFX through the years is a part-tragedy.

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    That Said...! i support the new direction the LWG is choosing 100%
    improving the very source of the old Modeler / Layout code isn't done in a day.
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