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    Workstation Build Help!!!

    Hello Wavers

    I'm looking to build a workstation for Motion Graphics, VFX including a lot of sims, RBD and particles, Modeling with Zbrush and compositing.
    I'll be using Lightwave,3dsmax,Adobe CC, and Zbrush.

    My Current budget is $1500 I will be able to add on an additional $500 in a month.

    Here are my 2 options:

    4770k based

    CPU - Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz LGA 1150
    Case - Corsair Obsidian 750D Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $159.99
    PSU - CORSAIR AX series AX760 760W - $149.99
    Motherboard - ASUS Z87-EXPERT LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - $229.49
    GPU - EVGA 03G-P4-2664-KR GeForce GTX 660 3GB 192-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 SLI Support Video Card - $224.99
    Ram - G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 - $319.99
    Boot Drive -SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III - 89.99

    Total - $1514.43

    I have an Hitachi 1TB deskstar which will be used as a data drive and several monitors
    Will add 2x WD BLACK SERIES WD3003FZEX 3TB 3.5" Internal Hard Drive in Raid 0


    The 4930k spec looks like this

    CPU - Intel Core i7-4930K Ivy Bridge-E 3.4GHz LGA 2011 -$579.99
    Case - Corsair Obsidian 750D Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $159.99
    PSU - CORSAIR AX series AX760 760W - $149.99
    Motherboard -ASUS X79 DELUXE LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - $349.99
    GPU - Radeon 5750 from old system
    Ram - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $149.99
    Boot Drive -Hitachi Deskstar 1 TB from older system
    Cooling - CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i Extreme Performance Water/Liquid CPU Cooler -$109.99

    Total - $1499.94


    Having said all that I understand the 4770k is faster in single threaded task and the 4930 is beastly in multi-threaded task.
    The question is given the tick-tock nature of Intels cpu releases and the announcement that Intel will be releasing Haswell -E chips which wont support the 2011 sockets and refreshing the the 1150 socket Haswells this summer would it be better to get the 4770k and take a wait and see approach to the refreshed Haswell chips and the future tock (Broadwell). or should I get the 4930 knowing this is the last socket 2011 and ride this pony for a few years.


    Please any help would be appreciated, I think I maybe suffering from information overload

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    I changed a 5 year old i7 920 for a i7 960 on my gaming rig and dobled it in speed, but it was an exeption, everytime I need to upgrade processor the rest of the box is obsolete too so I change the whole thing. The i7 4930 is a solid performer, it's exaclty the same speed for rendering as a 2670 xeon that costs 3 times more, and the i7 is faster in single threaded operations. The cool thing about the xeons is that you can put two in a box. The 4770 while being potentially more future-proof is dissapointing for any multythreading task. So I'd go with the 4930, I do beleive that it's the best bang for the buck right now.

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    Thanks for the reply, so I should get the 4930 overclock it and get single thread performance on par with the 4770 and the multi-thread aswell

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    i would go with bigger then a 120 GB boot drive. I would go with at least 250. And i also recommend the 4930k. I get nice temps with the H100i cooler.

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    Your Option 2 is essentially my workstation, with the exception of:

    • Corsair 650D in place of the 750D. The former is huge. The latter is gigantic.
    • Corsair RAM.
    • Corsair AX1200i PSU. Never skimp on power.
    • Samsung SSD boot drive from Option 1.
    • Unsure why you're getting an nVidia card for one and not the other. Many renderers now employ CUDA, so having that capability is a plus. Mine's a GTX670. Really cranks in Octane and Thea Render; especially in GPU+CPU mode.
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    GPU is outside current budget of $1500 for the 4930 system will need to get 660 in a few weeks. maybe I can cut the ram down to 16GB to free up cash for the AX1200, but the goal is to have a fully running base system and add to it over the next few months. Thank for all the input guys.

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    About a month ago I had bought a prebuilt 3D capable gaming / LW production system with the i7 4770 and I ended up getting a refund after 2 systems had exhibited a strange behavior which I could not resolve. The machine[s] would start up on their own at random intervals even after being properly shut down. The machine was running Windows 7 [pre-installed]. I had even checked everything that could have even remotely be causing it including bios settings and system settings too. I'm no stranger to the workings of a computer. Even the system manufacturer's tech support couldn't figure it out, so now I'm looking into building my own box as well!! Maybe i'll have better luck!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dot3 View Post
    GPU is outside current budget of $1500 for the 4930 system will need to get 660 in a few weeks. maybe I can cut the ram down to 16GB to free up cash for the AX1200, but the goal is to have a fully running base system and add to it over the next few months. Thank for all the input guys.
    Ah, got it. Budgets are sometimes a pain. OK, here's the plan, then:

    • Don't get the 660 yet, but plan for it.
    • Save the $$ on the case by getting a 650D. You'll not run out of room, trust me.
    • Get the RAM you will ultimately be using. If it's 32GB, get it as a matched set, often times called a "Kit". You can roll the dice and add to existing RAM but it's not guaranteed to run properly, as the matched sticks are all tested and certified to work together.
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    I'm happy with my 4770K BUT it needs a watercooler to run it full speed without frying!

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    I recently went down the 4930K route. To me, the Haswell-Es are still a little way off. If you go down the Haswell 4770k route, it may not guarantee that you MB will be compatible with the new Haswell-E chip... and the chip's going to cost more than a i4930k anyway, for not a lot more speed, IMO.

    CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 12MB (OC - 4.4Ghz)-
    Mobo: Asus P9X79
    GPU: Asus GTX580 1.5GB DirectCU II OC
    RAM: Crucial Ballistix Tactical DDR3-1600Mhz 4x8GB
    Power: Corsair Builder CX750M
    SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 120Gb
    HHD: WD 1TB Green
    Cooling: Corsair H60

    Total Cost - £970.22 (GPU from previous build)

    Check out this thread for other builds: http://forums.newtek.com/showthread....ime-here/page9


    Systen Spec: i7 4930k (OC @4.5ghz),ASUS p9x79 MB, 32GB Ballistix RAM, H60 cooling, Samsung SSD 120GB, WD 1TB

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    Oddly enough the 650D is more than the 750D at newegg its listed at 179.99 and the 750D is 159.99
    Quote Originally Posted by spherical View Post
    Ah, got it. Budgets are sometimes a pain. OK, here's the plan, then:

    • Don't get the 660 yet, but plan for it.
    • Save the $$ on the case by getting a 650D. You'll not run out of room, trust me.
    • Get the RAM you will ultimately be using. If it's 32GB, get it as a matched set, often times called a "Kit". You can roll the dice and add to existing RAM but it's not guaranteed to run properly, as the matched sticks are all tested and certified to work together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dot3 View Post
    Oddly enough the 650D is more than the 750D at newegg its listed at 179.99 and the 750D is 159.99
    Yes. You pay a $20 premium for the box not taking up so much room.

    I haven't done an airflow analysis on the 750D but I have a thread over on the Corsair forums on the set up that I found to be the best with boxes like the 650D.

    There's also this thread in here.
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    I went with 4930K, didn't regret it, budget wise its a lot of power for 500$. Yes PSU should definitely be larger and get the 32GB of ram. What I did, I ordered my sistem with 16GB and upgraded recently with same two sticks of 8GB, so far so good, you might try that, no guaranties it will work, though. I have had issues with win 8 and 16GB ram, you cannot run LW and AE at the same time, it will always pop up asking to turn one off. Get the SSD, at least 250, you can run it on your old drive, and upgrade SSD 250 for some 180 plus memory 160 plus, save 100$ from before and add it to the rest to get the gtx 660. Get 2x8 ram if you plan to upgrade to 32, rather than 4x4. Also you can consider geting 3930 cpu, I think its a it cheaper but not far behind 4930 on specs.

    Also, for the corsair cooling, you'll need two new fans, because stock ones are just too damn loud.
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    If I can add few cents .... Check http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/...r/nepton-280l/ instead of H100i and check this http://www.fractal-design.com/home/p...r4-black-pearl instead of Corsair case. Fractal is nicer in my opinion and quieter.
    Consider this PSU : http://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/303 ( very quiet and excellent quality )
    For GPU consider Gigabyte one with Windforce3 cooling ( do not forget to hack drivers for quadro ones;-)

    I will go with LGA2011 .... it has more future. It will be compatible with up to 10/12 core xeons from e5 1xxx series.
    In few years there will be full ebay of them in decent prices.

    ps. http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...articleID=2752 review of Nepton 280L

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    Fractal looks good! I'm using Corsair Obsidian 650D. Crappy quality. The Front case fan died in less than a year. The front panel has 2 usb3 cables that clumsily connects to the back of the usb3 ports broke within 1.5 year. In my pov, Corsair has inferior quality products and that goes with their so-called performance rams too.

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