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Thread: Tricaster 460 and 860 Robotic camera integration

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    Quote Originally Posted by kanep View Post
    ... , the recommend serial interface to use is the Keyspan USA-19HS. http://www.tripplite.com/sku/USA19HS/ This unit's drivers have been white listed and will not give a warning about 3rd party software being installed when the TriCaster starts.
    This has to do with the chip type that is used on the specific device. (and config written to the chip)
    As there are 3 main chip supplier for USB (VCP) to SerialCom Chips on the market today, it would be nice to know what drivers are available on the tricaster by default ?

    FTDI ?
    Prolific ?
    Silabs ?
    another ?


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    No USB serial drivers are on the TriCaster by default. However, we have a white list of accepted software that can be installed on the TriCaster. At this time the Keyspan driver is the only white list approved one.

    That doesn't mean that other drives will not work (most USB serial adapters probably will). However, you will mostly likely get a warning message when the TriCaster starts if another driver is used. You can continue through the warning message, but it isn't possible to automatically suppress the warning message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kanep View Post
    No USB serial drivers are on the TriCaster by default. However, we have a white list of accepted software that can be installed on the TriCaster. At this time the Keyspan driver is the only white list approved one.

    That doesn't mean that other drives will not work (most USB serial adapters probably will). However, you will mostly likely get a warning message when the TriCaster starts if another driver is used. You can continue through the warning message, but it isn't possible to automatically suppress the warning message.

    There are many devices that use the Prolific drivers, but they do not all install in the same way. The official driver for the Tripplite adapter that Kane referenced and that will work without the nag can be found here:

    http://www.tripplite.com/shared/soft...R2-7-and-8.zip
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    Hi,

    i just found out, that at least the Tricaster 8000CS, the 850TW and the 850CS (the only CS i had for, checking) uses a FTDI FT232R Chips for communication with the tricaster.
    Checked with an own built FT232R pcb and YES it get s directly enumerated as Virtual Com Port.

    So for my future projectes needing an Com port on Tricaster i will go for devices with a FDTI FT232R chipset. (no driver needed, but maybe needs a eeprom reconfigure on the FT232R chip itself to fit the inf file on the tricaster :-) )

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    Good afternoon. My apologies if my question is not relevant to this thread (I am new to these forums), but as I have noticed some reference to the Panasonic AW-HE50 in this thread I would like to know if there is someone with knowledge of integrating the HE-50 with a Tricaster 860. Is there a brief list of pitfalls or issues with using an AW-HE50 with the 860? Is it a good fit? If not, what sub-$5500 cameras seem to work best, or users have the best experience with?

    Our project is looking to use the 860 two or three AW-HE50 in a studio configuration for live cablecasting of college classes. We are currently sending in a Standard Def mode, but wanted to be ready for other formats. If this is not a relevant place to post this question, may I trouble you to tell me which location I may post this.

    Thank you for your attention to my post.
    Last edited by jkoskov; 05-24-2014 at 01:46 PM. Reason: Adding additional sub-question

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    I've used the AW-HE60S with TriCaster. It is basically the same PTZ camera with some additional IP video features (which aren't needed for TriCaster). The only pitfall I can think of with these model cameras is if you are going to put them on a separate 'PTZ network' or on your house network. Not that one option is better than the other, just that some people want the PTZ network to be separate. If a separate network is the plan, you will need to add a USB to Ethernet adapter to TriCaster so you can have two Ethernet ports. Use the USB/Ethernet for the PTZ network and the built in Ethernet for everything else.

    To use these cameras with TriCaster you just need to set each camera with a unique IP address, type these IP address into the PTZ tab of TriCaster and you will have control.

    I can let others speak more to the cameras themselves. Sony makes some PTZ units that work with TriCaster. They can be cheaper than the Panasonic in come cases (but, that doesn't mean they are better). Sony units are only controllable by serial, so you would have add wiring for method of control. Perhaps it might be best to know what kind of production you do, so someone can better determine if the Panasonic units would work well for your needs.
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    I'm using the Panasonic AW-HE120 cameras with an upgraded 455 with fantastic success. My director loves them for anywhere we may not have to move the cameras live. The thumbnail previews are the perfect way to work. Movement including pan, tilt, zoom and focus takes about 1-2 seconds total... Much faster than any camera op! As for the network issue, if you can put a router between the "house network" and your tricaster, you can create your own LAN with the house being your WAN. Then you can easily administer your cameras (set IP's, etc) on the same network as the other network stuff you need for your TC. They're great for up front reverse cameras, too, because without an operator, the audience forgets about them.
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    Hi I was reading this post, i wanna make sure i understand Well. I want to buy a PTZ DAtavide PTC-120 ( i think is the replace for PTC-100 model that the owner of the post mentioned)

    this is the camera
    http://www.datavideo.us/wp-content/u...c-120-rear.jpg

    Controls

    Included “tv style” wireless IR remote
    Compatible with RMC-190 table-top joystick remote
    Pan 340 degrees / Tilt 120 degrees
    RS-232, RS-422, VISCA
    Up to 128 user-defined presets
    Automatic Iris Control


    So if I want to connect it with Tricaster, I need a cable that convert Din to Usb?
    which do you recommend, thx

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    That camera says its VISCA compatible, as far as I know only Sony cameras have been tested with TriCaster PTZ VISCA control. This doesn't mean it won't work, just hasn't been tested.

    For the cable, you will need two parts. A USB to serial adapter, then a DB9 to 8-pin VISCA cable. If you are putting more than one camera on the cable, then you need additional 8-pin VISCA to 8-pin VISCA cables.

    Here is sheet I put together with the cables you would need to make it work.

    PTZ Supported Serial Interface.pdf
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    We just got at TriCaster 860 here at work and we were happy to see the new PTZ control options since we have a BRC300 we use from time to time. I've been doing some research for control cables since our rep said we only needed a RS232C to USB cable. There aren't many options out there for USB. I found this one from Rocosoft that seems it would do the trick and not be limited to short cable runs. I just wanted to make sure this would work before recommending it to my boss.

    http://www.rocosoft.com/index.php/pt...xtender-detail

    Thanks,

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    I would recommend using one of these USB to Serial adapters http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-USA...+lite+usa-19hs with one these serial to VISCA cables http://www.tecnec.com/Product.asp?ca...0&showreturn=0.
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    Thanks, I will pass that information along.

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    Thanks for the information. Would you happen to know which type of USB-Ethernet Adapter is compatible with the 860. I purchased it back in 2011, so I doubt it has USB 3.0. I'm guessing something like this would work best..

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plugable-Gig...+cable+adapter

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    Is it possible to use the joy stick for PTZ on the TC 460 with out having to hold down the shift key everytime you want to move the camera?

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    Hi i work with DATAVIDEO PTC-120 and PTC-150 and work well, you can see a video here where i recorded how is work
    https://youtu.be/7LV8GsO9Dus

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