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    ...well, I managed 16m 59s

    Strange thing is, this time I only managed to clock the cores to 4,25 GHz - last time I did it I rendered without issue clocked to 4,5. Basically, I kept increasing voltage offset for LW not to crash, but once i reach like 1,42v, the system will not boot, not even into the bios, which is a bit troublesome. Which is a bit strange, since the voltage with spike much higher than that when it's all left to auto.

    Anyway, still loving the 3950X - just wish I could run it on Win7.

    By the way, I am using LW 11.0 - might render faster than later verisons. General rule for all software is: The newer the version, the more bloat.

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    Darn cool that it keeps up with the ThreadRipper.

    regarding, LightWave 2019, it is quite nice once you get a hang of adjusting the settings.

    and never import a LW2015 scene into LW2019, (for rendering) unless you know what you are doing.
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    ...hmm, I see the GHz values I mentioned are wrong - I clocked the cores to 4.325 GHz, and on the previous attempt I mentioned I got them running at 4.35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerelium View Post
    ...well, I managed 16m 59s

    Strange thing is, this time I only managed to clock the cores to 4,25 GHz - last time I did it I rendered without issue clocked to 4,5. Basically, I kept increasing voltage offset for LW not to crash, but once i reach like 1,42v, the system will not boot, not even into the bios, which is a bit troublesome. Which is a bit strange, since the voltage with spike much higher than that when it's all left to auto.

    Anyway, still loving the 3950X - just wish I could run it on Win7.

    By the way, I am using LW 11.0 - might render faster than later verisons. General rule for all software is: The newer the version, the more bloat.

    Windows 10 Pro
    Ryzen 9 3950x - 4,25 GHz
    32 Gb RAM - 3200 MHz, 14 latency
    Noctua air cooler
    max registered CPU temp: 84C (GPUZ)
    Impressive results Amerelium, could you share what you have changed in the bios to achieve these results? If I choose the OC profile, all cores runs at only 4.163 GHz, even if the temperature is only about 75C. I have a BeQuiet Dark Rock 4 air cooler (200W TDP) with two fans. With the standard profile, the temperature rarely exceeds 60C in full load so I think this shouln't be a cooling problem. My RAM sticks are the Kingston Predator 3200MHz CL16, but I don't think the latency makes such a difference. With the OC profile my time is 19m 52s in LW2015.
    System info: CPU: Ryzen 9 3950X RAM: 32GB DDR4/3200MHz MB: Asus Prime X570-P GFX: Asus GTX 750 Ti / 2GB OS: Win10, LW2019x64

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    Quote Originally Posted by kolby View Post
    Impressive results Amerelium, could you share what you have changed in the bios to achieve these results? If I choose the OC profile, all cores runs at only 4.163 GHz, even if the temperature is only about 75C. I have a BeQuiet Dark Rock 4 air cooler (200W TDP) with two fans. With the standard profile, the temperature rarely exceeds 60C in full load so I think this shouln't be a cooling problem. My RAM sticks are the Kingston Predator 3200MHz CL16, but I don't think the latency makes such a difference. With the OC profile my time is 19m 52s in LW2015.
    I assume you mean the Performance Enhancer lever 3(OC)? - that one is just for extending the use of Turbo Mode.

    you have to go further down and find the OC tuner, and change it from 'Keep Current Settings' to OC tuning. System then asks you if you want to start tuning, you say yes, and it reboots.

    When you then are back in the bios again, you can set the CPU Core Ratio manually, in 0,25 increments. This time I set it to 43,25 (so 4,325 GHz, not 4,25 as I stated in my post). Then I also increased the CPU voltage - thought be careful with that: An Intel system will just reset the bios to default if you go beyond safe levels, but here the system just fails to launch if set to high; you will not even be able to access the bios. So do not set the voltage it much beyond 1,4. I did, and only managed to get back to the bios by removing every USB devise I use, and hooking up a PS2 keyboard.

    Also note, that Windows 10 is a humongous piece of bloatware, and I have hacked the **** out of it to remove / disable as much useless junk as possible. So my system has 30ish fewer processes running than you standard Win10 setup, and that improved render times. It is still unstable, as render times will vary significantly from time to time, unlike on my previous system, where a frame would always render at exactly the same time, down to the second, unless you changed the perimeters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerelium View Post
    I assume you mean the Performance Enhancer lever 3(OC)? - that one is just for extending the use of Turbo Mode.

    you have to go further down and find the OC tuner, and change it from 'Keep Current Settings' to OC tuning. System then asks you if you want to start tuning, you say yes, and it reboots.

    When you then are back in the bios again, you can set the CPU Core Ratio manually, in 0,25 increments. This time I set it to 43,25 (so 4,325 GHz, not 4,25 as I stated in my post). Then I also increased the CPU voltage - thought be careful with that: An Intel system will just reset the bios to default if you go beyond safe levels, but here the system just fails to launch if set to high; you will not even be able to access the bios. So do not set the voltage it much beyond 1,4. I did, and only managed to get back to the bios by removing every USB devise I use, and hooking up a PS2 keyboard.
    Yes I meant Performance enhancer Level 3. I thought the OC tuner would set everything to the highest possible value automatically. I'll try it manually when I have some time. Thanks.
    System info: CPU: Ryzen 9 3950X RAM: 32GB DDR4/3200MHz MB: Asus Prime X570-P GFX: Asus GTX 750 Ti / 2GB OS: Win10, LW2019x64

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    You also have to set the AI Overclock Tuner to D.O.C.P for the RAM to run at 3200 MHz, if not it defaults to 2666 or 2333
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerelium View Post
    You also have to set the AI Overclock Tuner to D.O.C.P for the RAM to run at 3200 MHz, if not it defaults to 2666 or 2333
    Yeah, that was the first thing I did.
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    Threadripper 3960X

    So back in 2013 I posted results on my overclocked Hex-core HT PC
    https://forums.newtek.com/showthread...=1#post1300343

    That was 1 hour 6 mins 3 secs, in Lightwave 11.x

    I was just building a new rig finally - that hex-core had lasted me since December 2011 and finally was showing its age...
    So since LW2015 was the closest version I had to v11 installed, I tested the benchmark again on this system.

    In LW2015.3, the render time became 1 hour 42 mins 21 secs ... somewhat slower than LW11, though I also had to bring the clock speed down from 4.5GHz to 4.2GHz when dropping noisey watercooling and going back to air cooler.

    Now, on my new rig I just built, Threadripper 3960X 24 core with HT/SMT so 48 threads, aircooled again, CPU automatically bouncing all cores around 4GHz, and air cooled at fairly solid 79'C, in LW2015.3 again, I got....

    19 mins 13s

    Doing some loose calculations, in LW 11.5, this would have been a render time of approx 12 mins 30secs..!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dommo View Post
    ... I got ....

    19 mins 13s ...
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    Is your Theadripper at stock setttings or did you enable Boost mode in Ryzen Master software?
    May i also ask what RAM timings you use?

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    ...Threadripper 3960X at 19m13s
    ...seems a bit low considering the Ryzen 9 3950X does it in 16m 59s

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    Interesting,
    the 3950x was with LW 11
    the 3960x was with LW 2015

    Running a test with those versions right now.

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    Test done:

    LW 2015.3 = 18 min 2 sec
    LW 11.5 = 13 min 5 sec
    But LW 11.5 result is more noisy.

    Rendered on:
    Threadripper 3960x (Auto Overclock in Ryzen Master software active)
    RAM 64GB @ 3200 14 14 14 34 1T
    No additional OC done.

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    ah, alright.... that's more like it. 
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