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    might want to look at your bios or something as the 1700 at 3.6ghz did it faster than your 1800? its supposed to be about 7% faster, but again, it confirms the new tech doesn't live up to the numbers or hype, the 1800 is supposed to be the flagship ryzen chip, yet is slower than the intel that has been replaced 4 or 5 times now
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    looks like the threadripper is only just beating the bottom end of the I9 range, and the I9 is cheaper
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    price versus performance
    Ryzen is quite good.

    however it is not a Monster CPU, by far.
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    well you say that but the top threadripper is only slightly faster by the numbers than the i9 7900 but the 7900 is cheaper (and has been shown to be faster with apps like max etc), has a lot less cores (so less threads and power 140w vs 180w the threadripper only runs to 65 deg where as all intels and ryzens will run to 95 deg) so you save annually as well,
    also if you follow the pc cpu mark numbers the 1700x is exactly the same as an i7 7800x, and in the uk they are exactly the same price, but again you can clock the intel far past the AMD, so I think there has been a lot of good advertising and number blinding in regards to AMD

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    well you say that but the top threadripper is only slightly faster by the numbers than the i9 7900 but the 7900 is cheaper (and has been shown to be faster with apps like max etc), has a lot less cores (so less threads and power 140w vs 180w the threadripper only runs to 65 deg where as all intels and ryzens will run to 95 deg) so you save annually as well,
    also if you follow the pc cpu mark numbers the 1700x is exactly the same as an i7 7800x, and in the uk they are exactly the same price, but again you can clock the intel far past the AMD, so I think there has been a lot of good advertising and number blinding in regards to AMD
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    true, i'm looking into getting an overclocked i7 next up.
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    Have you guys seen the troubles with I9 and overheating at 100% load? Skylake CPU's seem to have problems...

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    only affects the 7900 and 7700 and it looks like its a combination of the thermal paste intel used and the design on some 299 boards, but just about all the i7/i9 range from day 1 needed water cooling to be fully overclocked but like I said they cut out at 95deg, where as the threadripper cuts out at 65, my old 980 probably runs at that on idle!
    anyway, you will get stories of any chip overheating when people start over clocking,
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    Hiya!

    Well, yeah, my Ryzen 7 1800x rig *was* going to be my main workstation...but not anymore. I'm going to punt it over to a gaming rig and replace the vid card with a GTX 1080, rip out the M.2 and just leave the SSD in it. My new rig, which I just placed my order moments ago (as in about 10 minutes), is from Maingear. I had *zero* luck finding any place that had a pair of E5-2699v4's...and forget about Motherboards, cases, and ECC Ram! Finally, after the last day'ish or so, I said "screw it...here Maingear...take my money!". A couple of clicks latter and I'm now $23k (Canadian) poorer. I'm swapping out the GTX 1080 that's on it for my FirePro W9100, and putting in my Samsung 950 Pro 2TB M.2. Other than that...the Maingear one had everything I wanted...if at a premium price. *shrug* It's only money, right? As Freddie said..."Easy come easy go" (Freddie Got Fingered movie; at the very end of it).

    In a month (+ time spent convincing my bank that, yes, I really DID spend $23k on a computer...so let it go through already!....I'm sure they'll halt the payment for a day or two 'just to make sure'...)...where was I? Oh yeah, then I'll be able to see what my "new and improved" workstation can do with Dual Xeon E5-2699v4's, 128GB ECC ram, and my M.2. Hopefully it's better than an hour!
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    You are brave my friend. You don't need ECC ram (unless your motherboard demands it, some do) it's slower and just stlightly more stable. I've been using dual Xeons for 6 years now rendering almost everyday with no ECC without a problem.

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    Hiya!

    Quote Originally Posted by Danner View Post
    You are brave my friend. You don't need ECC ram (unless your motherboard demands it, some do) it's slower and just stlightly more stable. I've been using dual Xeons for 6 years now rendering almost everyday with no ECC without a problem.
    I'm pretty sure the MB requires ECC (the only choice for the build). I had a dual Opteron computer waaaay back when, and it had ECC ram too; it was a damn speedy little computer, so I'm not really worried about it.

    The only thing I may switch out on it is my GPU. The 1080 is immediately getting ripped out and put into my gaming rig, as I said. The FirePro W9100...I like it quite a bit (graphic quality and speed when modeling in LW, MODO, Silo, Softimage, Maya...all smooth as a babies butt!), but MAN does this sucker get HOT when under load! It's 'max' temp is 95C, and when on load it's high 80's; highest I've seen it is 93C! O_O That WAS playing a video game though (7 Days to Die). When using it for 3D creation, barely breaks 70C. I have had zero luck finding a liquid cool sink for it; as far as I can tell only one company made it, and that was years ago. So, if I can't figure out why this thing heats up so much (other than to live up to it's namesake...), I'm going to sell it and grab a Quadro of some kind.

    Anyway, this thread is for render results so I'll stop drooling over my soon-to-be-new workstation...and choking back the $23k it's costing me...*meep!*
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    good news, the intel I9 in the uk has been dropped to £880, so its now over £200 cheaper than the threadripper, you can actually almost buy an I9 7900x and an I7 7700k (also just had a big price reduction) together from scan for the same price as a threadripper!
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    Threadripper 1950x @ 4GHz

    30m 25s

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    Damn...

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    As suggested I am adding my benchmark on my new rig here

    Lightwave 2015.3 - 32m 50s (1970.1s)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lito View Post
    As suggested I am adding my benchmark on my new rig here

    Lightwave 2015.3 - 32m 50s (1970.1s)

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    Crikey... after 4 years of waiting, we finally have a single socket CPU that mops the floor with the dual Xeons on this thread and at a fraction of the price.
    Congrats on your beastly build.

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    Hiya!

    New rig is in. The scene rendered on LW 2015.3 in 33m 40s. However, rendered on LW 11.6.3, it renders in 24m 27s. That's a *9 MINUTES* faster. o_O Does anyone know why v11 is so much faster than 2015?

    Also, I could only get 64 of my 88 threads to render...so I guess it would be a couple minutes faster if LW could use all of 'em.
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