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    Newbie Member wolfiboy's Avatar
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    Thank you Phil for that reply.
    I must admit that I just was angry about e-on and their update-policy. But I got an email today that I will get the chance to update! But I must say this only happens because I first contacted the sales-representative, got a refusal, posted that in the forum, another e-on-technician replied to that, got another reply from the (SAME!) sales-rep again - and it seams to be possible to upgrade! If some e-on-representatives are reading this post: Thank you very much! There is still mercy in this world :-)
    I'm happy now and the world is bright and shiny again! :-)
    But you are right. It would have been a hard way for me to find any other software that could do the work Vue does in such a convenient way. Of course it's possible to build mountains in LW or Terragen, clouds out of HyperVoxels, etc., but it needs more time or is not so brilliant. I just bought the book of Dax Pandhi 'Realism in Vue' this summer and he says that Vue has specifical algorithms to simulate light on clouds and water and material as it is in real. And there are some differences between Terragen an Vue, absolutely.
    The instance handling is more convenient in Vue, absolutely right. You can paint it, if you want or just draw some sliders and Vue calculates them.
    I just don't have the money to pay for this convenience as a private person or a small studio if I don't need it so often. Especially if I would have to buy the whole version again. And I must say that I not really understand why the new, whole Vue version has almost the same price as LW but less features. I mean - yes - I can build nice and realistic landscapes. But modelling? A really operable graph-editor for animations? Just a simple 'save increment'? A better renderer? Soft shadows? I mean - Between LW 10 and LW 11 was a huge leap. All the boolean dynamics, instancing, swarm and some more. I don't have the impression that there are comparable leaps between Vue-versions anymore. Eco-paint and spectral light was a huge leap. And now particles? Well...I don't know. Maybe these two packages are not comparable, but that's what I meant with 'overrated'. But yes - the software is successful and the price can be demanded (such with this other 3D-package beginning with the latter M). That's what I meant with 'Hollywood-business'.
    If it will happen (and I didn't get the link yet) to upgrade to version 11 I will do some testing and post the results here. I also will take the lighting hint into consideration you mentioned, thank you very much!

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    I just installed Vue xStream 11 and made some testing: FiberFX is not working. The fibres are rendered but only on the shiloette of the object (see attached images on my former posts on this thread). If FiberFX is activated for an object and the file is saved (with a Vue-scene) - the next time you load it LW crashes. This is the same error as with Vue xStream 8 and LW 9.6 .
    MDDs can be saved - no crash.
    With the lights I'm not really sure. I got different results. The biggest problem is that I get two shadows, even when I disable the shadow on the LW-light in the properties and put the intensity of the light to 0%. But sometimes I only get 1 shadow. I need to do more testing.
    The only thing I found out (and already knew): You can't control the Vue's sun-light in LW. If you do then the LW-objects are dark but the Vue-scene is still bright (no changes). The sun-light must be controled by Vue (e.g. in the atmosphere-editor).

    @Phil: One question: When you say you switch off the Vue-light's influence - don't you loose all the special Vue-light-effects? Just like the specular-atmosphere or the anisotropy-effects? Or do you mean, you swith off the LW-light effects?

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    Now it's official: FiberFx does not work with Vue 11. I started a support-request for this issue (within my 30-day maintenance plan) and got following response:

    Hi Wolfgang,

    Unfortunately, this is a known issue in Vue xStream.

    Given the complexity to correct this issue, we will be unable to solve this through an update, but will try to fix in a future version.

    Best regards.
    Shawn Remo

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