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    Why Fax Machines Still Exist

    Odd and irrelevant title to the forum, right? Hardly. If you want to make money streaming, you have to answer the question "why do fax machines still exist?" The answer is at the heart of the American technological psyche.
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    Fax machines work. It's a mature (150 year old) technology and almost every business has one.

    It's sometimes difficult to transfer documents via email. IT depts. don't like attachments or imbedded graphics (signatures) or html. Some companies have their email locked down to the point of uselessness (US Air Force, I'm looking at you).

    We deal with this all the time. So I'm not sure you can draw any conclusions from the continued existence of the fax machine other than as an indictment of email technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcupp View Post
    So I'm not sure you can draw any conclusions from the continued existence of the fax machine other than as an indictment of email technology.
    That's a small part of the answer. There are so many alternate communications methods besides e-mail. There is SMS, MMS, IRC, a legion of social media (Facebook, MySpace, Instagram, LinkedIn, etc), ftp, Usenet, IRQ, bittorrent, and many others with bi-directional communications protocols allow the transfer of voice, video and data - so a mere indictment of e-mail technology I think only begins to get to the heart of our mindset.

    What do others think?
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    just the fax mam

    The fax is still in use so the art departments you deal with can send a
    fax of the graphic they want in the HD video you are making.
    It is your job to explain why the fax is too low a resolution.
    This "feature" lets you make more profit (you charge by the hour) by
    draging the pre-production time out for more hourly billing.
    Also in the day, after a fax was sent a phone call was needed to
    verify the fax was recieved. The telco's love that feature by making
    more profit with the increased billing.

    The existance of The fax machine is there for corporate gain.

    Yes you pay more for your all-in-one printer to include the technology.

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    Fax machines still exist because they grew to be a ubiquitous NETWORK of machines, built on top of an even more ubiquitous communications NETWORK (the old POTS phone system), leveraged by a NETWORK of people that have the marginal proficiency required to make use of it. Oh - and they do an adequate job at the task they were designed for...

    Networks are the only reason anything in our society can exist - think about it...

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    PS - I like SHROX's answer better than mine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmmultex View Post
    Fax machines still exist because they grew to be a ubiquitous NETWORK of machines, built on top of an even more ubiquitous communications NETWORK (the old POTS phone system), leveraged by a NETWORK of people that have the marginal proficiency required to make use of it. Oh - and they do an adequate job at the task they were designed for...

    Networks are the only reason anything in our society can exist - think about it...

    -john

    PS - I like SHROX's answer better than mine...
    Also you can use a large, clunky fax machine like a USB stick since some have memory storage...
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    I will do you one better, we still provide slide projectors in breakout rooms for older doctors that are speaking at Pharmacutical events in convention centers around the country. Also that said we did a large general session last year for a Pharma company that in their tech specs required a slide projector with a video composite output hooked into the Folsom Encore, so if older docs. that did not have power point and had slide decks, we could view there material. I have not used that piece of gear in quite some time and almost forgot we owned one, wish i had taken a shot of that one, it created some scratching heads from the younger techs. See you all at NAB, be safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rg7fan View Post
    I will do you one better, we still provide slide projectors in breakout rooms for older doctors that are speaking at Pharmacutical events in convention centers around the country. Also that said we did a large general session last year for a Pharma company that in their tech specs required a slide projector with a video composite output hooked into the Folsom Encore, so if older docs. that did not have power point and had slide decks, we could view there material. I have not used that piece of gear in quite some time and almost forgot we owned one, wish i had taken a shot of that one, it created some scratching heads from the younger techs. See you all at NAB, be safe.

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    Arrow NewTek LiveFax

    Hi Colin,

    I hope you aren't under a NDA about giving out NewTek's next breakthrough! The new upgrade is the RJ-11 i/o connector on all new TriCasters.

    Forget RSS data feeds or Twitter feeds as lower-third crawls via LiveText. Those are only for geeks and nerds.

    Now, your middle-aged clients will be able to send graphics via fax using LiveFax. It will immediately post the fax on-screen as an overlay (you can even key out the paper and see only the words over the video). Churches will love this feature for their song lyrics.

    LiveFax and the RJ-11 i/o connector on the TriCaster is to fax machines as e-mail was to the "@" symbol. A new rebirth. A new lease on life.

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    Hahahaha, I enjoyed that Tim
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    I love it. Baseballs bats. LiveFax. Slide projectors. (BTW, did you have to make a pulse track to advance the slides? LOL)
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    Quote Originally Posted by csandy View Post
    I love it. Baseballs bats. LiveFax. Slide projectors. (BTW, did you have to make a pulse track to advance the slides? LOL)
    What, to make sure A) The presenter hadn't keeled over and died of old age and B) the audience hadn't keeled over and died from boredom?

    Oh. Pules TRACK. Not pulse tracker. Never mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csandy View Post
    Odd and irrelevant title to the forum, right? Hardly. If you want to make money streaming, you have to answer the question "why do fax machines still exist?" The answer is at the heart of the American technological psyche.
    As long as there is paper in the machine, you get instantaneous gratification (well after it finishes printing).
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    Quote Originally Posted by joseburgos View Post
    As long as there is paper in the machine, you get instantaneous gratification (well after it finishes printing).
    If a fax printout is your idea of "instant", your romantic partners must ADORE you!!!
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