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    The possibility of ET "advanced civilisations".

    Bit of a fav topic around here but recently it occurred to me that the Solar Eclipse is quite extraordinary in that the Moon actually fits over the Sun at this point in the life of the Solar system such that Einstein's prediction of light bending in space-time could be observed.

    Now, how many "earth like" planets are also going to have that peculiar set up in conjunction with an Albert Einstein? Or, conversely, no Solar Eclispe no way of knowing.

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    please... lets not.

    I firmly believe that the universe is (simply put) a random ocurrence, devoid of divine intervention... and Id say Im pretty skeptical towards the ideas of the possible interventions of other intelligences, either recently, or far off in the past.

    However the moon, fitting perfectly over the sun, and always facing the same side toward us, but doing both only at this particular slice of the solar systems life time is the one thing, the one "coincidence" I find somehwat...

    unsettling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RebelHill View Post
    The moon, fitting perfectly over the sun, and always facing the same side toward us, but doing both only at this particular slice of the solar systems life time is the one thing, the one "coincidence" I find somehwat...

    unsettling.
    Well, not unsettling just an unlikely thing given the dubious notion of there being ET "advanced civilisations".

    - The reason the Moon does that is it was formed from the ejecta of a collision with a Mars sized object early on and whatever had enough mass to escape did and the rest remained oriented to earth's gravitational field which also rounded it into a moon.

    There again, without the moon the earth would spin wildly and there'd be no regular seasons... thus no great spawning of life in the early oceans after simple bacteria had prepared them for a billion years beforehand.

    The chances are "life" really isn't out there...

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    is that Jon Malkovich is the moon or is he just mooning at meshpig ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverko View Post
    John Malkovich.
    oh, no, please, no I mean please not , no.... aaaaagh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerry_g View Post
    is that Jon Malkovich is the moon or is he just mooning at meshpig ?
    Yes, it's JM the Moon. Where would we be without him? Apart from those who happen to work with him who else would see his fat arse

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    Beam me up Scotty...

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    ... some old but amusing music while we wait.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuzqQYhx-80

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshpig View Post
    Well, not unsettling just an unlikely thing given the dubious notion of there being ET "advanced civilisations".

    - The reason the Moon does that is it was formed from the ejecta of a collision with a Mars sized object early on and whatever had enough mass to escape did and the rest remained oriented to earth's gravitational field which also rounded it into a moon.

    There again, without the moon the earth would spin wildly and there'd be no regular seasons... thus no great spawning of life in the early oceans after simple bacteria had prepared them for a billion years beforehand.

    The chances are "life" really isn't out there...

    that's a theory no a fact btw.
    also the notion of 'wildly spinning' is somewhat off is you look at Venus our sister planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meshpig View Post
    Well, not unsettling just an unlikely thing given the dubious notion of there being ET "advanced civilisations".

    - The reason the Moon does that is it was formed from the ejecta of a collision with a Mars sized object early on and whatever had enough mass to escape did and the rest remained oriented to earth's gravitational field which also rounded it into a moon.

    There again, without the moon the earth would spin wildly and there'd be no regular seasons... thus no great spawning of life in the early oceans after simple bacteria had prepared them for a billion years beforehand.

    The chances are "life" really isn't out there...
    Well the rest didnt remain oriented to earth, not at all... in the past the moon (and the earth too) span faster... millions of years ago, the "dark side" would have been quite visible to us here... and will again millions of years into the future... it jsut so happens that at this particular time we only see the one, seemingly unchanging face from earth.

    As for the wild spinning... with the moon wandering off, wild spinning will occur... however this is only because earth's rotational axis is tilted, probs caused by the much supposed collision event. had that never occurred, and the moon never formed, there would be no wild spinning at all.

    There would also be no seasons, jsut one single, year round season, but there's no reason whatsoever to assume that life could not have formed under such a condition... by contrast, life adapting to fit an ever changing pattern of warm to cold and back again seems less likely, yet clearly works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cresshead View Post
    that's a theory no a fact btw.
    also the notion of 'wildly spinning' is somewhat off is you look at Venus our sister planet.
    Yes theories, and "wildly" relative to the orderliness the Moon, so to speak. - Venus couldn't "support" a moon anyway 'cos too close to the sun.

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    The comparison of any and all potential life to life here is simply small minded.

    Things happened here that lead to where and what we are...
    who is to say for certain that it all couldn't have gone a million other directions and still have life...
    and who is to say that THIS is civilization (spelled correctly here)?

    We are a virus, almost by definition.
    I only wonder if every cell in a full infection ever ponders how civilized the whole is.
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    life can have any form, as long as the molecules "communicate" imo

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