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    Quote Originally Posted by shrox View Post
    I believe that God (actually Jehovah, as the Hebrew monotheistic one) ran all the calculations through, and chose only one universe to bring into existence, this one. I admit, it's a very convenient outlook...
    Yeah, and if we flew a spaceship and reached the end of the universe we would come back into the same universe on the other side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrox View Post
    I believe that God (actually Jehovah, as the Hebrew monotheistic one) ran all the calculations through, and chose only one universe to bring into existence, this one. I admit, it's a very convenient outlook...
    Yahweh was one mean sucka. I really hope he's not what those who do believe in this stuff get stuck with for eternity. Seems like an infinite sentence of praise and no bacon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_RB View Post
    Basically reason (free will) tells you to take both boxes (the predictor is gone and already filled the boxes, so your choice can't effect the contents). But if the 99 people ahead of you chose either both boxes and got a pittance or only the closed one and got the $1,000,000 what do you do.... do yo have free will or not? Believing in a real predictor changes how you behave, causing you to make choices that are based on what you think is 'fate'.
    Really? I guess I missed the open box part. Can I bring a gun to the test? All the boxes please...
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    I asked santa for a new rear wheel for my bike. Michelin Pilot road 2. Getting down to the wear bars.

    Last edited by Mike_RB; 12-15-2009 at 08:35 PM.
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    Religion's are all based on Chinese whispers and suckers buying into afterlife timeshares.


    The only thing for certain is 'change'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrox View Post
    Really? I guess I missed the open box part. Can I bring a gun to the test? All the boxes please...
    Yeah, there is 2 choices. Both or just the closed. And you can bring a gun all you want. The contents can't change, it's just up to you if you believe the box filling agent can predict your action. I'm pretty sure the show LOST will come down to this paradox in the end. Jack making the choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_RB View Post
    Yahweh was one mean sucka. I really hope he's not what those who do believe in this stuff get stuck with for eternity. Seems like an infinite sentence of praise and no bacon.

    Yahweh is Jesus. And John Stewart of The Daily Show openly admits to eating bacon cheese burgers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_RB View Post
    .. it's just up to you if you believe the box filling agent can predict your action...
    Ohh, hadn't though about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scenergy View Post
    Religion's are all based on Chinese whispers and suckers buying into afterlife timeshares.


    The only thing for certain is 'change'.
    Death and Taxes, that's what life is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrox View Post
    Yahweh is Jesus. And John Stewart of The Daily Show openly admits to eating bacon cheese burgers!
    Must be neat to be your own son and send yourself on a suicide mission to atone for a 4000 year old crime committed against yourself. And then get people to use magic to change wheat and grapes into your body parts and blood, then get them to eat and drink them to give them a ticket to spend some time with you once they croak according to your plan. Whadda guy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_RB View Post
    Must be neat to be your own son and send yourself on a suicide mission to atone for a 4000 year old crime committed against yourself. And then get people to use magic to change wheat and grapes into your body parts and blood, then get them to eat and drink them to give them a ticket to spend some time with you once they croak according to your plan. Whadda guy!
    You got the story wrong. . .again. Sheesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_RB View Post
    Must be neat to be your own son and send yourself on a suicide mission to atone for a 4000 year old crime committed against yourself. And then get people to use magic to change wheat and grapes into your body parts and blood, then get them to eat and drink them to give them a ticket to spend some time with you once they croak according to your plan. Whadda guy!
    You look at it from a mortal point of view. If there is an eternity, it is always occurring, long ago, right now, distant future, it's all occurring in eternity, and perhaps they are the same person in two different places at once, so he would have sent himself there. There are at least two distinct personages, some say three, but I am not sure. Counting the holy spirit as a third seems like labeling my consciousness as separate from me. I could wrong, I was once wrong before...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_RB View Post
    ...change wheat and grapes into your body parts and blood, then get them to eat and drink them
    This is symbolic only, surely?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_RB View Post
    Must be neat to be your own son and send yourself on a suicide mission to atone for a 4000 year old crime committed against yourself.
    I don't think it's ethical to believe that I can escape responsibility for my actions via the torture and murder of another human being. A cosmic scapegoat. Doing so undermines personal responsibility, upon which all ethics and morality must stand.*

    *Plagiarized from Christopher Hitchens but he says it so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameswillmott View Post
    This is symbolic only, surely?
    Actually not. The're serious.
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