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    Set Duration Time

    It would be nice if the duration of the clip was automatically entered when the recording is stopped.

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    I need a little help with this one, please. I'm assuming that by "clip" duration, you mean length of recorded video during a session - as opposed to a marked playlist entry (a.k.a., an "event"). The system does display total recorded time for the session, so can you detail a bit more what you have in mind? Thanks!
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    Yes, the system displays the recorded time but you have to manualy enter that time on the clip ID line. If the duration were auto-entered it would just be one less step to finish a session. The 3Play I am using is not able to record right now, let me get it running and I will define this better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sound Man View Post
    Yes, the system displays the recorded time but you have to manualy enter that time on the clip ID line. If the duration were auto-entered it would just be one less step to finish a session. The 3Play I am using is not able to record right now, let me get it running and I will define this better.

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    Sure, please do - I'd like to get this clearly in my head. The In Point for a marked "event" listed in the playlist reflects its timecode based on the 'master recorded time.' Duration, of course, shows the time between In and Out Points. I'm still really not clear where you are finding it necessary or useful to manually enter time.
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    I think in this case Steve, he wants to use it as an ISO recorder. So he starts recording at 00:00:00:00 and at the end of a 2 hour he wants to export the entire 2 hours as one clip. I think this could be handled better then a duration settings. See fogbugz shortly for some ideas on this request.
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    Possibly, Zane. Of course, exporting a clip (or triplet of clips) isn't the principal target application for 3Play, but it wouldn't be hard to accomplish either.

    • Press Record
    • Press Mark In
    • drum fingers and roll cams for two hours
    • press Mark Out
    • Clone the sole playlist event once or twice (depending on how many inputs were active) and change the default camera setting for the clones.
    • Export.


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    Export

    Steve.

    when you hit export, does this render the clips, or can you just make a .vtp, and reference the files, say in SE?

    Or is the rendering based solution with the export command?

    THX

    I saw the 15 minute demo, but after watching it I have many questions. It is a good piece with the Basketball setting, but I am still confused about the operations. Is there a PDF manual of the product available, or is that only available to purchasers?

    I am glad that Wink's client used it twice in their production with success, but is there a user who is doing sports and using it in what we would probably consider a "normal" use for the TriplePlay technology?

    Best of luck with the launch and this new forum.

    Also, on the demo, was that SD footage, or was that HD footage?

    I a guessing SD, but I don't want to tell clients it is SD if it's HD.

    I have had a few calls, but the price is scaring my educational customers. They want something for far less, and that does not seem realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt_Henning View Post
    Steve.

    when you hit export, does this render the clips, or can you just make a .vtp, and reference the files, say in SE?

    Or is the rendering based solution with the export command?.
    No, this is not a render it simply copies the recorded footage from the Master Index file to seperate .MPG clips for each channel. No recompression invovled.(Note: Our Recording Quality is double the quality of solutions costing 4x as much)



    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt_Henning View Post
    I saw the 15 minute demo, but after watching it I have many questions. It is a good piece with the Basketball setting, but I am still confused about the operations. Is there a PDF manual of the product available, or is that only available to purchasers?
    PDF Manual can be found here ftp://ftp.newtek.com/pub/3PLAY/3Play...july.23.09.pdf


    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt_Henning View Post
    I am glad that Wink's client used it twice in their production with success, but is there a user who is doing sports and using it in what we would probably consider a "normal" use for the TriplePlay technology?
    There will be quite a few schools using 3Play this Fall as football season starts up.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt_Henning View Post
    Also, on the demo, was that SD footage, or was that HD footage?

    I a guessing SD, but I don't want to tell clients it is SD if it's HD.

    I have had a few calls, but the price is scaring my educational customers. They want something for far less, and that does not seem realistic.


    The Live Launch Demo was SD, the Online demo Video used HD Sources.

    Consider that if you wanted to buy any other HD Replay system with only 2 inputs and 2 outputs and the capability to record and playback at the same time it would cost $90,000.
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    Hi Kurt. I know Zane beat me to the punch, but I'll try to add my two cents:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt_Henning View Post
    when you hit export, does this render the clips, or can you just make a .vtp, and reference the files, say in SE?
    3Play is not simply a 'record and playback system, Kurt. Key requirements for a professional, broadcast level replay system for live events include being able to provide instant access to multiple camera angles simultaneously, doing so without interfering with continuous recording. (Precise frame accuracy between recorded angles and genlock capability are vital as well, to integrate with live broadcast systems.) Operators need to be able to play back something that just happened moments ago instantly on demand without missing action that occurs during the instant replay.

    I mention this because you should realize that (especially for version 1.0, which is all anyone has seen so far) 3Play's primary purpose is seamless instant replay. Its internal file mechanisms are predicated on providing that sort of ability. Export and ties to external systems, in this round, have less priority. That said, export for post production purposes is fast and easy, and results in multiple (high quality and synchronized) files, along with an industry standard EDL for convenience.

    This is not to devalue cross-product and third-party product communication for post and other purposes. Export works quite well as-is, but I think I can safely hint that looking forward to much more in this (and many other) respects would not likely be naive.

    One more thing, just to be precise - AFAIK, it's not really accurate to call 3Play's export process a 'render'. Without getting into details, it's largely more a matter of segmentation. (AFAIK, no re-encoding to speak of is involved.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt_Henning View Post
    I am glad that Wink's client used it twice in their production with success, but is there a user who is doing sports and using it in what we would probably consider a "normal" use for the TriplePlay technology?
    I'm sure you realize that 3Play's development and beta has involved input from numerous high-end live production professionals and extensive testing and evaluation in their real-world settings. I imagine marketing will post case studies as time goes along. In the meantime, as you are a NewTek dealer, you might refer this sort of query to your inside sales rep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt_Henning View Post
    I have had a few calls, but the price is scaring my educational customers. They want something for far less, and that does not seem realistic.
    Different products for different purposes, Kurt.

    The interest in and reception for 3Play has been phenomenal, really outstanding - and this is largely because there is nothing remotely as capable in its price class. In my own limited examination of the topic, it appears that you could buy multiple 3Play units and have money left over for a trip to San Antonio for the cost of products that compete on the same level. In an economic downturn, the industry is looking for cost-effective solutions, and 3Play is a bargain - especially coming, as it does, from a well established company with quite possibly (and deservedly) the best reputation for long term support in the industry.

    This all said, 3Play represents NewTek's initial foray into HD hardware. It would be a huge mistake to imagine that we are done.

    Again, I think it's safe to say that products and systems better suited to less demanding (or just different) applications can be anticipated in due course.
    Last edited by SBowie; 08-01-2009 at 06:08 AM.
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