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Chuck
06-23-2009, 02:15 PM
Hi, Mac 'Wavers! :)

Welcome to this week's progress note on our Mac development activities!

Cocoa/Hotfix LightWave v9.6.x: The Dev Team had very productive meetings last week in San Antonio, TX, and are now all safely back home and hard at work again. As noted, among the activities for the week was to complete the work on integrating the Cocoa/Hotfix branch into our build systems. That has largely been completed but some fine-tuning and testing of the build process is continuing this week. Time for coding was indeed limited, so we are still at about four to eight weeks out from beta release, subject to change based on the issues encountered.

Among those "issues encountered," as soon as the build system integration is complete the Mac specialist will be concentrating on the multi-threading issue affecting interaction with FPrime on 8-core Mac systems. This one is definitely going to be thorny and has the potential to force an extension to the schedule.

Other news from the meeting is that in our meetings with executive staff, we received approval for an Open Beta process for Cocoa/Hotfix v9.6.x. That would commence a few weeks after we do our first beta release for the beta group (estimate for that above).

That's it for this week! :)

Hold the Presses!
We completed the build system integrations for v9.6.1, and in testing and reviewing today internally, decided we were ready to "take its temperature" with the new Cocoa build, and released v9.6.1 to beta. We still have work to do in several areas, but that's the end for "four to eight weeks to beta release." We are now in beta! :beerchug:


Please Keep Those Bug Reports Coming: Getting in reports on any bugs you may have encountered but not yet reported is very important. Don't forget to include steps and content, as they are needed to insure that we can duplicate your bug properly and get it fixed. For those of you who need a refresher as to how to report bugs, check this link:

Instructions for Bug Report and Feature Request Database (http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73227)

Phil
06-23-2009, 02:56 PM
Hey, and you might well beat Luxology to 64-bit on Mac. Nice.

John the Geek
06-23-2009, 03:09 PM
So, internal beta, not Open Beta?

Scazzino
06-23-2009, 03:28 PM
WOOHOO! :rock:

Chuck
06-23-2009, 04:43 PM
So, internal beta, not Open Beta?

Yes, internal beta.

CGI Addict
06-23-2009, 05:18 PM
Sweet!

Tanks for this update.

accom
06-23-2009, 11:56 PM
Chuck, this updates are very important for (i guess - all-of) us, so our loyalty to LW is intact. :)

3dworks
06-24-2009, 02:02 AM
good to hear that you are taking care of that fprime issue!

cheers

markus

Kuzey
06-24-2009, 06:18 AM
Haha...great news :thumbsup:

Kuzey

PeteS
06-24-2009, 07:26 AM
Hey great news guys...exciting stuff.

kfinla
06-24-2009, 04:24 PM
Good news

virtualcomposer
06-25-2009, 01:17 PM
will there be an external beta? It's like getting a Christmas present every afternoon. ( :

Chuck
06-25-2009, 03:29 PM
will there be an external beta? It's like getting a Christmas present every afternoon. ( :

That was this part here:



Other news from the meeting is that in our meetings with executive staff, we received approval for an Open Beta process for Cocoa/Hotfix v9.6.x. That would commence a few weeks after we do our first beta release for the beta group...

:beerchug:

virtualcomposer
06-25-2009, 04:09 PM
That was this part here:



:beerchug:

that's what I get for not reading the whole thing. LOL

paul summers
06-25-2009, 06:50 PM
Good news
hope you fix fprime and the audio.:thumbsup:

Chuck
06-26-2009, 03:42 PM
BTW, folks, I forgot to mention that I will be on vacation next week. It's likely to be the week after before I get a chance to do another update.

In the meantime, all of you keep healthy, safe and happy! :)

gpdesigner
06-30-2009, 07:07 PM
Thanks for the great news Chuck, and you have an awesome Vacation . .
gp

rommany
07-03-2009, 11:23 AM
8 cores need input ! FP

virtualcomposer
07-03-2009, 11:50 AM
Happy 4th of July Chuck. Thanks for all the work you're doing on LW.

Chuck
07-08-2009, 12:16 PM
Happy 4th of July Chuck. Thanks for all the work you're doing on LW.

I'll pass the thanks on to the team, and we're hoping the Mac users will all be thrilled with the Cocoa conversion once we have it completed.

Apologies for being away a bit longer than planned - I was not able to get internet access during the time away last week, and now that I'm back home I'll be resting up the rest of this week, recovering from an emergency surgery (got to spend the 4th and 5th in the hospital, but things went well and I should be back in full swing by next week - and no, I wasn't playing with firecrackers! :) ).

dballesg
07-08-2009, 12:22 PM
Sorry to hear about your surgery Chuck. I hope you recover soon and well.

David

Scazzino
07-08-2009, 12:28 PM
Sorry to hear about your emergency surgery too.
I'm glad it went well. Take some well deserved rest and get well soon!

:beerchug:

jwiede
07-08-2009, 02:04 PM
Sorry to hear about the emergency surgery, Chuck, hope you're not in too much pain, and can get the rest you need. Take care!

Iaian7
07-09-2009, 10:45 AM
Man, emergency surgery is never how vacations are supposed to end. :( Hope you get to feeling better soon, rest up well!

jwiede
07-12-2009, 07:24 PM
Chuck, can you give us some idea when the transition to open beta will occur?

Also, can you set expectations about whether Mac folks should expect all outstanding Mac-specific FogBugz filed to be fixed, or whether there are bugs/areas already being deemed "too risky/expensive" for the upcoming release?

Finally, w.r.t. the open beta process itself, since beta testers can't see the entire list of outstanding bugs, can we get some kind of announcement when you guys believe all significant bugs have been addressed in a given area, or a major rework is "done"? Mac IKB and (all-platform) joint UI both would have been helped by such announcements in 9.6 OB, as examples.

Chuck
07-13-2009, 03:40 PM
Chuck, can you give us some idea when the transition to open beta will occur?

As quickly as is reasonable, now that we are in limited beta group. More specific than that I can't be at the moment.


Also, can you set expectations about whether Mac folks should expect all outstanding Mac-specific FogBugz filed to be fixed, or whether there are bugs/areas already being deemed "too risky/expensive" for the upcoming release?

The question sets a context that is not valid. We're not likely to be able to fix all outstanding reported bugs, but we should be able to knock out a great many of them, and the main triage factor is not whether they are too risky. Relative importance to the greatest number of users and impact on overall usability of the product are the main considerations, with likely amount of time to fix having some amount of impact, but not overmuch. The Cocoa conversion by nature means work is in progress in a lot of areas. Aside from the many UI and performance issues this is likely to affect, the multi-core issue affecting performance with FPrime is a priority.


Finally, w.r.t. the open beta process itself, since beta testers can't see the entire list of outstanding bugs, can we get some kind of announcement when you guys believe all significant bugs have been addressed in a given area, or a major rework is "done"? Mac IKB and (all-platform) joint UI both would have been helped by such announcements in 9.6 OB, as examples.

Again, by nature we'll have to comment on the status of major subsystems as one aspect of the affect of the Cocoa conversion.

3dworks
07-13-2009, 04:01 PM
...Aside from the many UI and performance issues this is likely to affect, the multi-core issue affecting performance with FPrime is a priority.
...

ah, good to hear that detail! and thanks again for keeping communication on this channel open...

best wishes for a fast recover!

markus

lwanmtr
07-22-2009, 03:46 PM
Yaay...just saw this thread..glad that we're finally boiling the water for our cocoa :)

Any word yet?

Chuck
07-23-2009, 09:25 AM
Yaay...just saw this thread..glad that we're finally boiling the water for our cocoa :)

Any word yet?

Yesterday's Update on Development of Cocoa/v9.6.x LightWave (http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100497)