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Triodin
04-25-2009, 08:55 AM
Hey All -

Slowly but surely workin on a character animation project and trying to figure out the best way to go about facial animation.

I was really digging TAFA until I saw their forums are dead (not to mention lack of mac support). The only other program I've found is MagPie Pro? Well, that and Face Robot which dominates all the searches I've made...

Really trying to hold off on a windows install, as if I do it, I'd want to do it right - which means footing the bill for the OS and snagging another hard drive (on top of whatever the facial animation software costs).

I've used Motion Mixer, but the thing I like about what I've seen with TAFA and MagPie is that it automatically drops the keys in to zero out the last morph. That's a whole lotta saved clicks imo!

Thoughts?

-Johnny-

Scazzino
04-25-2009, 09:48 AM
I just used Motion Mixer for this lip sync study (http://www.dreamlight.com/media/videos/insights/autitons/DLI-0090-TunaFishHD.mov.html) on the Mac.

evenflcw
04-25-2009, 10:12 AM
Are you aware of the hotkeys? (wont turn it into TAFA or Magpie though)

Ctrl+LMB on the K button will set a key at 0% for that morph.
Shift+LMB will create a key for all channels in the group.
Ctrl+Shift+LMB will key all channels in the group at 0%.

Not automatic. But faster than sliding values back manually.

Triodin
04-25-2009, 11:51 AM
Nice - hotkeys ftw! Many thanks evenflcw!!!

Scazz - how long did it take you to do dialogue with motion mixer after you got in a groove?

SplineGod
04-25-2009, 12:11 PM
Heres a couple of apps Ive used that work on PC or Mac that help alot:
http://jlipsync.lamhauge.dk/
http://www.lostmarble.com/papagayo/index.shtml
I believe Mike Green, aka "Dodgy" has a script to convert the papagayo data to morphmixer.

CGI Addict
04-25-2009, 12:40 PM
I just used Motion Mixer for this lip sync study (http://www.dreamlight.com/media/videos/insights/autitons/DLI-0090-TunaFishHD.mov.html) on the Mac.


Scazzino, that is really great work, I'll look into motion mixer.

Impressive to say the least.

CGI Addict
04-26-2009, 08:29 AM
Hey guys can anyone provide a link to TAFA, and what does TAFA stand for?

Triodin
04-26-2009, 09:15 AM
Hey CGI -

Here's the link to Timothy Albee's Facial Animation (TAFA)

http://www.ta-animation.com/FA/index.htm

I was all hot to trot at first because it was made by "Mac Reiter" ... but Mac doesn't equal Mac... lol

Mega says he responds to e-mails though - maybe a quick little ping to see where it's at?

I'm afraid I might hafta bite the bullet and go with a win64 build though - I bought this here Mac Pro last summer and I'm just pounding my head against the wall that nobody has friggin software that can use all 8 cores and more than 2 GB ram... That'll teach me...

howardt
04-26-2009, 08:05 PM
I too bought TAFA recently and used it to do a lot of lip-synching in a very short time, with no previous experience, and it came out very well.

I agree that the zeroing of the old morph (actually, mixing the falloff of one while the next builds up) is one of the things that makes the workflow so fast.

I was very happy with my purchase.

MacReiter
04-27-2009, 02:28 PM
Hi all.

Many thanks to those of you who have reported your happy experiences with TAFA. My "advertising" is all about word of mouth and getting people to invest an hour or so with the free trial and tutorial. And besides, it just feels really, really good to me personally.

I know that my forums are fairly dead, but I remain optimistic that the lack of traffic just means people are able to do what they need without asking for help :D

While I may not be able to regularly devote myself to 16 hour days to make serious progress on the next version of TAFA, I can and do answer my email prompty (except on weekends -- I don't typically check email after leaving work Friday until I get back in on Monday), so if you need a quick response, that path is always open.

Keep up the good work, all!
Mac

bethel
04-28-2009, 06:54 AM
Heres a couple of apps Ive used that work on PC or Mac that help alot:
http://jlipsync.lamhauge.dk/
http://www.lostmarble.com/papagayo/index.shtml
I believe Mike Green, aka "Dodgy" has a script to convert the papagayo data to morphmixer.

I went to "Dodgy's" webpage, looked for this script, but can't locate it. Do you have a link? Thank you.

SplineGod
04-28-2009, 08:08 AM
You probably have to email Mike directly about the script. :)

jwiede
04-29-2009, 05:09 PM
The Papagayo script is on Dodgy's site, under Plugins->Import/Export Scripts, just above the Moho/Anime Studio section.