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IMI
04-17-2009, 10:11 PM
I think I'm going to buy this, since I'm selling my 2008 main computer and building a new one in a couple weeks:
GTX 285 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130446)

So are any of you using this card with Vista x64, and LW 9.6 x64? Games? What do you think - is it worth it, or should I go with something more powerful, or wait a little while longer?
My EVGA 640 MB 8800 GTS still performs excellently in everything I use it for, so I wonder if maybe I should stick with that for a while and see what Nvidia spits out in a few more months, when the GTX 295 prices will come down some.
I'm more concerned with x64 drivers and any possible problems there might be with them right now, and performance in 3D apps, though, as opposed to gaming.

I was thinking about going the i7 route, but changed my mind. Well, the money changed my mind, actually. ;)
So my new build is going to be parts from my previous build, plus some new stuff, such as a new mobo obviously (Asus P5Q Pro Turbo supposedly rivals the Rampage), and I'm recycling my Q9550 and putting a Q6600 in the one I'm selling. I just can't really afford to build a whole new "from scratch" i7 machine at this time, but the Turbo mobo can use 16 GB of RAM, is only $130.00, and I'd like to have a more powerful video card for it too.

Any thoughts on the GTX 285?

mattclary
04-17-2009, 10:19 PM
I have a 285, runs games fast as heck, all the bells and whistles turned on at 1680x1050. I run XP64.

IMI
04-17-2009, 10:32 PM
Thanks Matt. Does it get real hot? I have a full size Gigabyte enclosure I'm going to use, with great airflow, but I wonder if I should buy a 3rd party hsf for the GTX 285, like I have on my 8800. Hmmm... I don't even know if anyone's made a 3rd party hsf for the 285 yet...
But the Accelero on my 8800 GTS keeps it from ever going above 60C, and I kind of like it like that. LW never pushes it above 48C, but we all know LW doesn't use the GPU anyway. ;)

But now I'm just wondering what kinds of temps I can expect from the GTX 285.

JonW
04-19-2009, 12:18 AM
Seriously think about an i7 920, pre processing (Radiosity) is extremely quick on the i7s, & more of the renders these days are done with radiosity. A 920 (4 cores) is almost an quick as my Dual Xeon 5450 3.0 ghz (8 cores).

There is now a range of 4 ram slot mother board, which are a lot cheaper.

A good graphics card will only make the screen more pleasurable to use & will not do anything for render times. I have 8600, 9800 & GTX280 & unless I am pushing around a bucket load of polys even an old 8600 is not bad.

Put Your 8800 in the new computer (you won’t get much for an old computer) & set up the old computer as a render node with LWSN, once set up via Remote Desktop you don’t even need the graphics card.


My architectural scene LW9.5
E5450 gi 26:19 et 2:24:25 @ 3.0 ghz
i7 940 gi 25:41 et 2:49:05 @ 3.68 ghz OC
i7 940 gi 31:42 et 3:27:20 @ 2.93 ghz
i7 920 gi 30:37 et 3:15:32 @ 3.15 ghz OC
E5335 gi 39:49 et 4:02:28 @ 2.0 ghz

3dspeedmachine LW9.5
E5450 gi 34.3 et 2:09 @ 3.0 ghz
i7 940 gi 26.8 et 2:29 @ 3.68 ghz OC
i7 940 gi 33.3 et 3:05 @ 2.93 ghz
i7 920 gi 30.5 et 2:51 @ 3.15 ghz OC
E5335 gi 54.9 et 3:26 @ 2.0 ghz

IMI
04-19-2009, 12:46 AM
Seriously think about an i7 920, pre processing (Radiosity) is extremely quick on the i7s, & more of the renders these days are done with radiosity. A 920 (4 cores) is almost an quick as my Dual Xeon 5450 3.0 ghz (8 cores).

There is now a range of 4 ram slot mother board, which are a lot cheaper.

A good graphics card will only make the screen more pleasurable to use & will not do anything for render times. I have 8600, 9800 & GTX280 & unless I am pushing around a bucket load of polys even an old 8600 is not bad.

Put Your 8800 in the new computer (you won’t get much for an old computer) & set up the old computer as a render node with LWSN, once set up via Remote Desktop you don’t even need the graphics card.




Thank you Jon, for the time you took to post all that. :)

Yeah, I have considered building an i7 system, most definitely have. Unfortunately, my wife has considered it too, however not quite in the same light as I have, if you get my meaning. ;)
The collapse of the economy has kinda screwed me, but I am being "allowed" to do some upgrades, since I'm selling off one of the machines. It's not a big deal, really, I do it all the time and I've built many, plus I'm getting $1000 for the one I'm selling - I already have a buyer. Granted I have to buy some new hardware and a new OEM Vista too, but I'm about breaking even, which is fine. It's still going to leave me with three decently powered 64 bit computers - 2 Intels and one AMD.

The big problem with the i7 idea right now is I'd need a compatible mobo, which are still in that overpriced-for-what-they-are realm (IMHO), and would also need to buy all new RAM, DDR3, not to mention the CPU. Yeah, maybe there are cheaper i7 mobo's, but when I do it I don't want to go economy, I want to do it right.
Believe you me, I would love to be able to do it right now though, and I definitely would if I could.

But I figure by the end of the year or the beginning of next year I'll be able to build an i7 machine, and by then prices will have come down somewhat. No big deal, I've always viewed my computers as temporary things anyway, rarely using one for more than two years at the most. I'm in a constant state of recycling, rebuilding and upgrading and once a year I build myself a new one from the ground up, and the oldest one gets sold cheap for fast cash.

But I like the looks of this new Asus P5Q Turbo mobo and figure I might as well up the graphics while I'm at it. Yeah, I know the GPU isn't going to make one iota of difference in render speeds, but I'm assuming it will be more powerful for OpenGL and DX in 3D apps, and I know without even reading anything about it that it's going to smoke in my games. It may not make a huge difference in LW, but with a new motherboard - essentially a new computer, I'll be able to legally reinstall the max, Maya and Mudbox demos again, for another 30 days of free fun. ;)