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elimin8r
02-22-2009, 09:09 PM
I have a project coming up where I have to depict a bomb blowing up underwater (with camera underwater as well) ... can anyone point me in the direction of 1.) good tutorials of underwater environments in LW and 2.)good reference videos/pictures (I'm not sure anyone has ever filmed a 'real' explosion underwater and lived to tell about it...)

SplineGod
02-22-2009, 10:29 PM
Never hurts to check youtube or other video sites for reference. Theres also a few movies that have underwater explosions.

kosmodave
02-22-2009, 10:31 PM
There is a tutorial over at Newtek Europe that may get you started.

http://www.newtek-europe.com/uk/support/tutorials/index.html

Dave.

Mr Rid
02-23-2009, 02:43 AM
I've done a few underwater explosions. Its made up of a combination of effects that occur in a quick sequence. Here's some reference-

From Crimson Tide-
http://www.box.net/shared/static/msbkvedsko.mov

From Sphere-
http://www.box.net/shared/static/k7sjo1cbve.mov

A thing I shot in an aquarium with cream-
http://www.box.net/shared/static/hzhog542de.mov
I poured cream into a black tube with a paper towel wad stuffed in the end. Someone blew into the tube to make the wad pop out and release the cream.

serge
02-23-2009, 05:07 AM
...
A thing I shot in an aquarium with cream-
http://www.box.net/shared/static/hzhog542de.mov
I poured cream into a black tube with a paper towel wad stuffed in the end. Someone blew into the tube to make the wad pop out and release the cream.
Great idea! :thumbsup:

elimin8r
02-23-2009, 08:35 AM
Thanks for inputs, guys. Funny, that Newtek Europe link was already the best thing I had found on the net in terms of tutorials. I am also studying the scene in 'Finding Nemo" where the shark sets off the mines underwater.

Mr. Rid -great footage - thanks. I've scoured YouTube, and I've found many great links to underwater explosions from ON TOP of the water, but very few from underneath.

Nangleator
02-23-2009, 08:38 AM
Huh. That Crimson Tide clip... At the end, people are visible in the upper right. Is that part of a cross-fade in the movie or are they the model guys somehow caught in the shot?

JeffrySG
02-23-2009, 10:09 AM
I've done a few underwater explosions. Its made up of a combination of effects that occur in a quick sequence. Here's some reference-

From Crimson Tide-
http://www.box.net/shared/static/msbkvedsko.mov



Those Crimson Tide clips are great!!! I always loved underwater explosions. They always remind me of Japanese Anime explosions.

JeffrySG
02-23-2009, 10:17 AM
Artbeats has a cloud tank CD for purchase as well which might help...

http://www.artbeats.com/collections/128?page=2

Mr Rid
02-23-2009, 11:19 PM
Artbeats has a cloud tank CD for purchase as well which might help...

http://www.artbeats.com/collections/128?page=2

I have those and none of them resemble explosions or too much of anything useful.

That Crimson Tide clip... At the end, people are visible in the upper right...

Is from a 'making of.' The first clip shows the miniature in real time and the track below that pulls the model thru the water.



Mr. Rid -great footage - thanks. I've scoured YouTube, and I've found many great links to underwater explosions from ON TOP of the water, but very few from underneath.
I have a few more reference clips I will try to dig out. I keep a large library.

Mr Rid
02-24-2009, 06:15 PM
http://www.box.net/shared/static/tb3l39u7bf.mov

daforum
02-25-2009, 01:28 AM
these are great references; thanks for sharing (have bookmarked this page)

elimin8r
02-25-2009, 09:21 AM
Mr. Rid -
Again, just what I was looking for - great references - thank you!

Mr Rid
02-25-2009, 01:45 PM
I consider reference about the most important thing an animator can use. I keep an enormous library and constantly capture and record True TV type stuff and get tons of crashes, explosions, stunts, acrobatics, animals, whatever.