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GregMalick
01-22-2009, 12:18 PM
OK.. just got an email from Jay Roth with this LINK (http://www.newtek.com/core/)

Is LW v10 only 13 days away???

Rollie Hudson
01-22-2009, 12:19 PM
Uh yeah, wad up Newtek?

hiespike
01-22-2009, 12:20 PM
Alright, I'm all set for a big upset.....just 13 days away.

Earl
01-22-2009, 12:20 PM
I was just posting about this now... :D

I guess this will be my new homepage for the next 13 days...

Alliante
01-22-2009, 12:20 PM
Yeah, and all the alien characters! Does Newtek know something about our government concerning alien contact that Pres. Obama's finally going to tell us about?!?!?!

( heh )

I'm anxious, the subdirectory of 'core' entices my imagination that Newtek will be showing off the new 'core' of Lightwave (10 perhaps?)

Verlon
01-22-2009, 12:23 PM
hope so...

hiespike
01-22-2009, 12:24 PM
this is what I make of it.

-O-E TO -O--O-

-EO-- THE -H-E-HO—

Alliante
01-22-2009, 12:26 PM
this is what I make of it.

-O-E TO -O--O-

-EO-- THE -H-E-HO—

I'd like to buy an 'L' please, Pat

jthompson3d
01-22-2009, 12:26 PM
How could it be LW 10....they just recently released 9.6. If they now release LW 10 they didn't have much time for adding new fetures or anything else.

Humm...... now you got me really wondering. :D

Phil
01-22-2009, 12:26 PM
Checking the page code :

If you can figure out the phrase in the graphic, please visit http://www.newtek.com/core/message.php

As such, I think this might be something for people who like to code.

karmacomposer
01-22-2009, 12:26 PM
Could those characters be mirror imaged?

Just curious. I have no idea what's coming in 13 days, but I just got the email as well.

Mike

hiespike
01-22-2009, 12:30 PM
or maybe

CORE TO -O--O-

-RO-- THE -HRE-HO--

zzyzx
01-22-2009, 12:31 PM
it looks like it says "more to follow" right under the clock

given those characters from above, i think the rest of it says "cross the threshold"

js33
01-22-2009, 12:31 PM
It's a riddle wrapped in an enigma. :D

Earl
01-22-2009, 12:33 PM
Ack, it's down for me now! Maybe it's getting too much traffic.

jlyon
01-22-2009, 12:35 PM
http://img.skitch.com/20090122-j8xudi99ykx4w4f51gb8jfgitg.jpg
Flipped horizontal

http://img.skitch.com/20090122-xc15yup1nw7pf9aukf1pjay8uy.jpg
Flipped Vertical

The little letters under the countdown are helpful too...

hiespike
01-22-2009, 12:36 PM
"MORE TO FOLLOW

CROSS THE THRESHOLD"

Fits...except the "T" in threshold...maybe it's capital

"more to follow

cross the Threshold"

damn you beat me.

RudySchneider
01-22-2009, 12:38 PM
it looks like it says "more to follow" right under the clock

given those characters from above, i think the rest of it says "cross the threshold"

That's what I got, too...


[Edit] Damn, multiple simultaneous decodes!

Alliante
01-22-2009, 12:38 PM
it looks like it says "more to follow" right under the clock

given those characters from above, i think the rest of it says "cross the threshold"

Good job, I got that too :)

Chrusion
01-22-2009, 12:42 PM
I swear the tiny words under the countdown read right to left, while the letters are normal... left to right... so something like:

?????? to join [join to ?????]

And isn't that middle word in big letters "TEN" not "the"? (more triple horizontal bar characters meaning they are a vowel, not a consonant).

My assumption is that LW 10 public beta begins on Monday, Feb. 2 or so.

Alliante
01-22-2009, 12:46 PM
Maybe this will help??
;)

zzyzx
01-22-2009, 12:46 PM
I knew these characters looked familiar

I found a link to this font
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/aurekbesh.htm

edit: Alliante beat me to it! :)

JBT27
01-22-2009, 12:48 PM
The start of the LWX open beta.....surely..... :D

Julian.

Chrusion
01-22-2009, 12:48 PM
The "T" can't be both up and down at the same time, can it? Wouldn't it violate the rules of cryptology? NT is just breaking the rules by flipping it around and using [] for O instead of OO.

Anyway... looking at it, sure does seem "cross the threshold" it the only thing that fits. You guys are just to fast for this middle-aged brain. Good job!

richcz3
01-22-2009, 12:51 PM
I would imagine (or hope) its not aimed solely at people who code. Why send it to everyone who owns Lightwave?

If there is "Code and Core"? to be read into this - I'll guess it has to do with Lightwave being opened up extensibly in Lightwave 10. Maybe there was a parallel program LW Core in the works this whole time and it will debut in LW10. Could it be so different it will not even be LW10. OK - just grabbing at straws now.....

JohnMarchant
01-22-2009, 12:55 PM
So an announcement on LWX no doubt

Earl
01-22-2009, 12:56 PM
Lame. IE 8 beta completely breaks with the Core page. I can't view it unless I use Firefox. 8/

It's gotta be the start of the LWX beta. Or maybe just juicy info.

hrgiger
01-22-2009, 12:57 PM
It's probably just a countdown to Chuck's birthday or something.

No seriously. Call my curiosity piqued. Considering that the email came from Jay and that the subject line was Lightwave, it's pretty much a given it's about Lightwave 10. It's only the details that are missing.

Alliante
01-22-2009, 12:58 PM
zzyzx: I like how you think ;)

hrgiger
01-22-2009, 01:00 PM
Someone said the second. Is my math wrong? Looks to me like the clock is going to count down to 4pm on February 4th.

Earl
01-22-2009, 01:00 PM
It's probably just a countdown to Chuck's birthday or something.
LMAO. Yeah, that would be killer. Does that mean we're all invited?

dwburman
01-22-2009, 01:00 PM
I'm guessing it's a LWX (Lightwave 10, Lightwave CORE) announcement, but not the start of a new open beta.

macb
01-22-2009, 01:03 PM
i'm going on a hunch, but think it's saying "lightwave 10 soon" or something like that...

OlaHaldor
01-22-2009, 01:03 PM
Nooooo! Suddenly my world is going under, by this stupid countdown.. I can't get my head around this ticking clock and do something useful, like working for example. All though deadline is last week in march, there's loads of things to do - the next 13 days will be crucial for my happiness.

Jay, you gotta make me smile when the ticking clock reveals the treasure you're holding on to.. :D

hrgiger
01-22-2009, 01:03 PM
I'm guessing it's a LWX (Lightwave 10, Lightwave CORE) announcement, but not the start of a new open beta.

A countdown just to an announcement? That seems like overkill in the drama department. How about an announcement and then a countdown to the beta or final release? Be a little more motivating to get it out the door on time.

Earl
01-22-2009, 01:05 PM
I'm getting February 4th, at 1:00pm Pacific Time, 4:00pm Eastern.

JBT27
01-22-2009, 01:06 PM
A countdown just to an announcement? That seems like overkill in the drama department. How about an announcement and then a countdown to the beta or final release? Be a little more motivating to get it out the door on time.

Unless they are finally learning the power of hype and spin :D

Julian.

ncr100
01-22-2009, 01:06 PM
I wonder - Lightwave is broken into Modeler and Layout and is effectively a core 3d system extended hugely by plugins.

Perhaps NewTek's going to rearchitect 10 to be more-so a core app with a plugin plugger.

(I'd like to have a plugin discovery system. Also a mini-tutorial displayed when hovering over the plugin launch-command.)

Waxtastic
01-22-2009, 01:09 PM
Hasn't anyone else taken a look at the source code? The last line in the html:

<!-- If you can figure out the phrase in the graphic, please visit http://www.newtek.com/core/message.php =D -->

GregMalick
01-22-2009, 01:09 PM
Since the webpage has CORE in it... I'm thinking that they'll be releasing new info about how the Core Foundation of LightWave has changed.
I'll go out on a limb and guess that they will announce everthing in LW10 will be Nodal.
Maybe even some fundamental changes in the UI too.

Then again, NewTek may be planning on releasing multiple versions and Core will be a simpler, Entry-Level (and cheaper) version of LW.

cellomangler
01-22-2009, 01:13 PM
OK... I think Obama is a Klingon -a good thing- and he is warning us through his Blackberry that Gort will be arriving in 13 days.... No better way to contact the scientific community than to titillate geeks first. And the Matrix was not just a movie but the actual way it is for all us copper tops.... So remember to take the red pill....

Dexter2999
01-22-2009, 01:13 PM
And then to rub salt in the wound......



Watch the announcement be about the Tricaster. mwahahahahahahahaha:devil:

hrgiger
01-22-2009, 01:14 PM
Then again, NewTek may be planning on releasing multiple versions and Core will be a simpler, Entry-Level (and cheaper) version of LW.

Well for one, that wouldn't be worth announcing. 13 days of waiting for a version of Lightwave that is less then what we have now?

Secondly, I sure hope there aren't going to be multiple versions of Lightwave. Jay seems utterly convinced that we're going to like whatever news they have for us so I think it's something bigger then a split up Lightwave. In fact, it may be the opposite.

JMarc
01-22-2009, 01:17 PM
2nd month, 4th day, 4pm Eastern time

2+4+4=10 ...LW10!

Hmmm... I am trying way too hard here. :)

Alliante
01-22-2009, 01:19 PM
more hints for you:

http://www.newtek.com/core/countdown.xml (accessed by the .swf ;) )

shadowlock
01-22-2009, 01:23 PM
I just want to say aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....
To much work to do to try and crack this thing :D

Alliante
01-22-2009, 01:25 PM
Yeah I've already spent too much time doing sneaky stuff.... I'll look at it later this week or early next week.

Back to work for this little nerd.

Cheers!

caesar
01-22-2009, 01:29 PM
Unless they are finally learning the power of hype and spin :D

Julian.

Amen!!!

I like the words CORE, LIGHTWAVE e TEN!

Im REALLY excited about it!

ncr100
01-22-2009, 01:36 PM
Whoa, sly one Alliante -


more hints for you:

http://www.newtek.com/core/countdown.xml (accessed by the .swf ;) )

akademus
01-22-2009, 01:51 PM
Looks to me like somebody will get to Newtek. Or code will be revealed for everyone (someone). Well... dunno

the_machine512
01-22-2009, 01:52 PM
Hmm. Using this link provided earlier seems to allow you to translate the message:

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/aurekbesh.htm

The middle word on the bottom seems to be "the".
The middle word on the top seems to be "too".

That's as far as I got :help:

cagey5
01-22-2009, 01:57 PM
The solution is all over the threads... :)

hiespike
01-22-2009, 02:11 PM
99% certain it's not LW10.
My guess is that Core will be a new forum/site for Lightwave...it'll basically be a revamp of their website.:lwicon:

jthompson3d
01-22-2009, 02:15 PM
DANG IT ! ! ! I can't figure it out. I even download the .swf file and see if there was anything in that.... NOTHING in the swf file coding, they imported a jpg image into flash so I can't find what font they used. :D

GOOD JOB NEWTEK TO KEEP US WONDERING. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

trick
01-22-2009, 02:17 PM
Cross the threshold...

jthompson3d
01-22-2009, 02:21 PM
I was reading on some of the other beta forums and found this in the last 9.6 forum:




I know that you are all interested to hear what is coming up next. We will have more information for you in a few weeks. We have some work to do in the meantime, but I think you will like what we have to say...

Best,

Jay Roth
__________________
Jay Roth
NewTek


Could they be giving us hints all alone, he said a few weeks (2)....time counting is 13...basically two weeks. :D :D :D

aidanodr
01-22-2009, 02:24 PM
Hi Guys,

well - decided to use the following search in GOOGLE:

newtek cross the threshold

Came up with this article first out:

http://www.cgfocus.com/article/story/312 - interview with Jay

"Some significant amount of modeling functions are now accessible inside of the Layout portion of LightWave, which will significantly improve workflow, and offer potentially new ways of working and animating within LightWave. This core change was a primary factor in crossing the threshold to the new series."

Maybe more hints in that
Aidan

KevinL
01-22-2009, 02:24 PM
This is a next generation speculation engine. Designed to elicit lots of chatter and guessing. Newtek has developed a technology for extracting clean energy from this and will use it to develop the next Lightwave.

Professor Foolish :)

ncr100
01-22-2009, 02:32 PM
Hi Guys,

well - decided to use the following search in GOOGLE:

newtek cross the threshold

Came up with this article first out:

http://www.cgfocus.com/article/story/312 - interview with Jay

"Some significant amount of modeling functions are now accessible inside of the Layout portion of LightWave, which will significantly improve workflow, and offer potentially new ways of working and animating within LightWave. This core change was a primary factor in crossing the threshold to the new series."

Maybe more hints in that
Aidan

Found the original newtek.com interview, attached.

ncr100
01-22-2009, 02:35 PM
Inspiration from below :devil: reveals the truth, NewCoreTek!

http://www.newcoretek.com.tw/

They're going into Solar Module & Photovoltaic Systems production! It's so obvious!

GregMalick
01-22-2009, 02:36 PM
Hi Guys,

well - decided to use the following search in GOOGLE:

newtek cross the threshold

Came up with this article first out:

http://www.cgfocus.com/article/story/312 - interview with Jay

"Some significant amount of modeling functions are now accessible inside of the Layout portion of LightWave, which will significantly improve workflow, and offer potentially new ways of working and animating within LightWave. This core change was a primary factor in crossing the threshold to the new series."

Maybe more hints in that
Aidan

New Series?... perhaps no LW10 in the future.

Perhaps LightWave 2009.

adamredwoods
01-22-2009, 02:36 PM
Unified core. Cool beans....
... or autodesk bought them.

RonB
01-22-2009, 02:37 PM
So, you think Jay has initiated an entire core re-write? I think so...I think we will see a combined work/render platform like most other modern apps. Presently LW is one big plugin...and I think that is about to change too.

Course I am probably wrong...

cg_mike
01-22-2009, 02:39 PM
It appears that Newtek used the Galactic Basic version of Aurebesh; the font was built so that letters are inverted when they're uppercase. (Apparently to match the variations in letter orientation in different Star Wars films.)

Explanation and font download link here:
http://www.erikstormtrooper.com/galacticbasic.htm

Complete letter table here (this appears to be the exact font used):
http://www.erikstormtrooper.com/galbasic_table.gif

This also is why the characters Shen (sh) and Thesh (th) -- shown in the graphic provided earlier by Alliante -- don't appear in Newtek's graphic. They're not built into this particular font.

Verlon
01-22-2009, 02:42 PM
I am really not going to get much done for the next two weeks, I can tell. I hope my F5 key survives this.....

Netvudu
01-22-2009, 02:49 PM
At any rate Newtek´s having fun with our posts, and well-deserved. :)

Jirapong
01-22-2009, 03:16 PM
My guess,
LW10 Beta that will be release in Summer 2015!

sadkkf
01-22-2009, 03:19 PM
My weak translation skills revealed the small text as:

More to follow

The large text as:

Cross the Threshold

archijam
01-22-2009, 03:27 PM
Guys, this is obviously a 13 day reminder email for Jay Roth's birthday.

Nitisara
01-22-2009, 03:40 PM
Besides suggestion to cross the threshold, this message contains "google-analytics.com" script which purpose is to track reader's location.

geothefaust
01-22-2009, 03:45 PM
Hey I wont have a job on the 2nd (or 3rd, not sure which yet), so this is great news for me! Weee!

Nitisara
01-22-2009, 03:48 PM
By the way, nice counter, NewTek! :thumbsup:

ncr100
01-22-2009, 03:52 PM
My guess,
LW10 Beta that will be release in Summer 2015!

LOL! That is a funny guess.

It's hard to feel confident about any guess I come up for the future direction NT will take with their 3d product.

I'm guessing modeler & layout will remain split apart in some way, but the pop-out editor (graph/scene/surface/...) capability will make that split less important than it is today. One driving need I feel is to be able to render in Modeler. Hrm.

LW8 saw the renderer modularization start, and that work is finished just now in LW9.6 (for people like Kray & their GI renderer). LW9 saw some modeler <--> layout plugin compatibility.

When you add a renderer to Modeler then you naturally want to see, at some point, frame (deform) and light impact to the render...but I strongly feel there is utility to having a renderer available during modeling...if so the renderer would be available in both layout & modeler but in modeler the set up / lighting will be necessarily simpler when running in modeler. Or, a modeler-in-place system could be added to layout where the model is reset to its non-deformed state and rendered in the scene's current lighting environment. Maybe some noodling on this topic could come up with a decent design.

Having all pop-out editors editing in modeler and layout seems too flexible to the point of meaninglessness - e.g. no clear production flow.

NT has (or had before this announcement???) their work cut out for them.

ncr100
01-22-2009, 03:54 PM
My weak translation skills revealed the small text as:

More to follow

The large text as:

Cross the Threshold

You got the same xlation as I and others did! :thumbsup:

Jirapong
01-22-2009, 04:17 PM
Announcement of "Acquisition" by some giant software company?????

cresshead
01-22-2009, 04:24 PM
Announcement of "Acquisition" by some giant software company?????


you mean....Daz3d?:devil:

Lewis
01-22-2009, 04:29 PM
Good work NT, masses are now decrypting message instead making money with fresh Lw 9.6 :D :D :D.

Excellent stuff guys and nice counter ;).

Jirapong
01-22-2009, 04:30 PM
I don't know,
By the way, what the animal LW will be?????

Maxx
01-22-2009, 04:34 PM
30 is so.... old.

Bite me, young 'un. :D

Personally, I think it'll be an announcement about the intended direction of LW10, stating no definite features, with plenty of "this is a possible road map only" warnings and disclaimers all over the place. Then it'll announce that if we buy the upgrade now, we'll be able to participate in the open beta when it becomes available, sometime in the latter part of 2009 to early 2010.

I certainly hope I'm wrong about the above, but I do hope that NT has learned their lesson when it comes to announcing a road map with concrete features listed (see early 9.0 announcements later removed and since much debated).

I do, however, very much dig the new marketing energy that this piece seems to indicate on the part of NewTek - reminds me of the Nine Inch Nails "Year Zero" release, with all its' attendant internet treasure-hunting and encrypted message solving.

famouswhendead
01-22-2009, 04:42 PM
Announcement of "Acquisition" by some giant software company?????

Adobe is buying them? nice :D

eagleeyed
01-22-2009, 04:45 PM
Hahaha, Newtek should do a countdown clock for every announcement they have, I dont often see this many members on the forum, and has actually caused me to log in after a couple of months.

Currently Active Users: 216 (96 members and 120 guests) at time of writing.

Hopefully its relating to LW X, however a bit doubtful that it will be something that big.

It could be that LW is going open source to directly compete with blender :P

AbnRanger
01-22-2009, 05:00 PM
I don't know,
By the way, what the animal LW will be?????No animal...
Introducing the new LW CORE icon:

Verlon
01-22-2009, 05:10 PM
No animal...
Introducing the new LW CORE icon:

no, that icon was trademarked for OSX. They can't use that one.

hosps
01-22-2009, 05:35 PM
"CORE" is refering to a GPU core and a new Parallel accellerated raytracing engine. NVidia hinted at this at their last conference and ATI/AMD just talked about their Fusion rendering farms using GPU cards instead of CPUs.

waly
01-22-2009, 05:39 PM
Hope it s got to do with LWX or LW 10, but I don't think it s so.
Maybe they are putting all the best LW plugins together in one version lets say aaaaaaaaa LWcad, Fprime,HD instance, Maestro etc. (too good to be true)

me sincerely hope its like that, but there is always possibility that this might be an early april 1st joke.

Chris S. (Fez)
01-22-2009, 05:53 PM
Cross the threshold. "Cross" is Roman Numeral for ten: X

The countdown DOES concern LW10...


I bet a ball sack

AbnRanger
01-22-2009, 06:00 PM
Cross the threshold. "Cross" is Roman Numeral for ten: X

The countdown DOES concern LW10...


I bet a ball sack
It's not really a mystery. Jay said a while back that after the 9.6 release they would talk about LW's future after the first of the year

jin choung
01-22-2009, 06:05 PM
what's up with all this talk about acquisition? NEWTEK IS NOT EVEN PUBLIC for heaven's sake! and also, does the current economic climate look like ANYONE is in a position to acquire anything? anyone been keeping track of the autodesk news? it's not good.

there's a freakin' lw logo on the countdown screen so clearly (or most probably) it's our expected announcement about lwX.

very very cool, agree that the ploy is generating lots of excitement and energy, thumbs up.

but dammit... 13 days! that puts the announcement on feb 4 right?

jin

cresshead
01-22-2009, 06:12 PM
"cross the threshold"
....marriage...
'to join'
...or to merge?.....modeler+layout>>lwx core

jin choung
01-22-2009, 06:13 PM
"cross the threshold"
....marriage...
'to join'
...or to merge?.....modeler+layout>>lwx core

dammit, that's FING GOOD!

if they INTENDED that, whoever wrote that clue should get a medal!

personally, i would have preferred something evoking consummation and forming the beast with two backs or any of the 64 positions of the kama sutra... but 'crossing the threshold' is artistic.

jin

JMCarrigan
01-22-2009, 06:47 PM
Rrrrrrrr.

Chris S. (Fez)
01-22-2009, 07:35 PM
"cross the threshold"
....marriage...
'to join'
...or to merge?.....modeler+layout>>lwx core

Oooooh! Clever Cresshead.

geothefaust
01-22-2009, 08:24 PM
Well, it's definitely regarding Lightwave. Anyone who got the link for the email, just check the subject line.

Anyway, I dig this form of anticipation. No talk before hand, dead silent secrecy. Then bam! Some light puzzle work. Digging around through text and such for clues. Next, I'll just need some light arrows and the master sword so I can take out Gannondorf.... Err... :D

Digital Hermit
01-22-2009, 08:35 PM
Silly rabbits,

It is the date when the shifting of the magnetic poles finally happens.

Therefore, Newtek will be on top and it will acquire Autodesk and Adobe. :bowdown: --- jeesh it's so obvious!

art
01-22-2009, 08:46 PM
Currently Active Users: 216 (96 members and 120 guests) at time of writing.


Imagine the crowds hitting the forum 5 minutes before the countdown runs out. Can we beat the 932 record?

meathead
01-22-2009, 09:22 PM
Heheh, wow. NT has got to be laughing at all this.
I came to the forum today because I just knew you people would be trying to hack the message.

I can't believe it is LW10.
9.6 just came out (some of us haven't even downloaded it yet). Not a good company move.

geothefaust
01-22-2009, 09:26 PM
Sure it is. They haven't come out with a new release that they have charged for in years, yes YEARS. I'm sure they could do with some revenue at this point in time, and what better way to do it then with a NEW bleepin product?

Hopper
01-22-2009, 09:38 PM
9.6 just came out (some of us haven't even downloaded it yet). Not a good company move.
No offense, but this is probably why you're not in marketing. Of course it's a good move. It's pretty obvious.

meathead
01-22-2009, 09:48 PM
No offense, but this is probably why you're not in marketing. Of course it's a good move. It's pretty obvious.

Hehe, you can tell all that from my one post?!?!?

You are smart!:thumbsup: And kind!



Just an opinion. I would gladly be wrong. Wanna put a wager on it being LW 10?
I do a lot of marketing by the way...I could always get better at it.

jbavar
01-22-2009, 09:59 PM
Ok, I'll make an optimistic guess that LW will be renamed CORE. It may have a new interface fusing modeler and layout into one application. Its code will be very open and its sdk robust.

Hopper
01-22-2009, 10:07 PM
Hehe, you can tell all that from my one post?!?!?

Of course. I can tell by the way you type your "E"'s and "L"'s. Pretty simple to spot actually. :D

Sensei
01-22-2009, 10:15 PM
What's happening in 13 days?

Interception of Autodesk Inc.. ;)

pming
01-22-2009, 10:51 PM
Hiya.

What's happening in 13 days? Hmmm...I'd say one of these:

1) The end of the world.
2) Lightwave v10.
3) Both.

I'm quite happy with any of the above. ;)

Just DL'ing 9.6 right now. I can see LW10 being released "this summer" and in two weeks we see an announcement about it and what v10 is going to entail. You see, 9.6 would be to get those who haven't 'upgraded' to the latest version excited about LW again...and hope that carries over into the dark, nasty, evil part of the brain where the demonic "Impulse Buying" neuron's are located. Then LW 10 is available for "pre-buy at a discount". ... ... ... If that's true, I have a new found respect for the evil geniuses behind Newtek... >:)

meathead
01-22-2009, 11:13 PM
Of course. I can tell by the way you type your "E"'s and "L"'s. Pretty simple to spot actually. :D

Damn "e" and "L's", shoulda seen that, but I can't seem to write without them though.

SP00
01-22-2009, 11:28 PM
I like the idea that they just call it CORE instead of LW. That's an awesome name.

Tonttu
01-22-2009, 11:31 PM
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter the Kingdom.

Gospel of Thomas, 22

(thread needs moar mysticism..)

meatycheesyboy
01-23-2009, 12:18 AM
I like the idea that they just call it CORE instead of LW. That's an awesome name.

That's also the name of Intel's current line of processors. I don't think it would be such a good idea for Newtek to try to use a name that's already being used in a technology field, albeit, unrelated.

Dexter2999
01-23-2009, 12:21 AM
That's also the name of Intel's current line of processors. I don't think it would be such a good idea for Newtek to try to use a name that's already being used in a technology field, albeit, unrelated.

Didn't stop people from re-using the FLX extention. That had been used by Avid for years for editing. Then 3D Max latched on to it didn't they?

meatycheesyboy
01-23-2009, 12:28 AM
Didn't stop people from re-using the FLX extention. That had been used by Avid for years for editing. Then 3D Max latched on to it didn't they?

Yeah but the difference is that an arbitrary 3 letter file extension doesn't have billions of marketing dollars behind it and won't bring down the legal wrath of the largest micro-processor company on the planet.

Maybe that wouldn't stop you but it sure as heck would make me think twice before using the name. :)

And besides, Newtek has already gone down that road. PST files are used in LW as presets but they were used in Outlook long before.

jin choung
01-23-2009, 12:43 AM
well, if they wanna get fancy about it, they can take the roman numeral 'X' which is also the greek letter 'X' Chi (which has a hard 'k' sound, as in Xmas) and call it

Lightwave Xor

which also alludes to a logic test Xor or 'exclusive or'... which means:

"The logical operation exclusive disjunction, also called exclusive or (symbolized XOR or EOR), is a type of logical disjunction on two operands that results in a value of “true” if and only if exactly one of the operands has a value of “true”. " (wikipedia)

which is actually kinda fitting....

how much multiple meanings can we pack into this?!

jin

regarding brand name convergence... this seems to happen from time to time. i remember right around one of the sgi workstations, the word OXYGEN seemed to be around everywhere in everything.

Dexter2999
01-23-2009, 01:05 AM
They can call it CORE if they want to. But I don't want to hear any jokes like "They should have called it CHORE because it's so hard to get good CA."

StereoMike
01-23-2009, 02:07 AM
And the hard- and softbody physics tabs are name Hardcore and Softcore.

jin choung
01-23-2009, 02:14 AM
And the hard- and softbody physics tabs are name Hardcore and Softcore.

i like where your head is at!

jin

jdomingo
01-23-2009, 02:44 AM
i think on the 13th day, newtek will release the new font type shown on that image

JBT27
01-23-2009, 02:50 AM
And the hard- and softbody physics tabs are name Hardcore and Softcore.

Yeah, an interface designed around innuendo would be funny, probably easier to work with as well :D

Julian.

Red_Oddity
01-23-2009, 03:24 AM
Haven't seen this theory mentioned before, but since they mention crossing the threshold and it is written in Aurekbesh (the language of the Star Wars Galactic Empire, aka, the dark side), are they telling us they gave up and want us all to switch to the Dark side, or, Autodesk?

:p

bearfoot
01-23-2009, 03:26 AM
it could relate to LW 64bit for Mac

that would be cool to the "core" !!!

niriv
01-23-2009, 03:34 AM
LW community : :stumped:

NT's team : :neener:

Dirk
01-23-2009, 03:55 AM
And the hard- and softbody physics tabs are name Hardcore and Softcore.

Then FiberFX would be ... Haircore ?

:D

ldgree
01-23-2009, 04:28 AM
Maybe new core means Modeler + Animation together in 10 ? :)
Will be amazing ^^

colkai
01-23-2009, 05:13 AM
I'm just waiting meself, strangely, I'm unaffected by the countdown thing, I just thought, "well, nothing doing until at least 12 days away then, plod onwards then".
I know what I expect from the next version, now I figure, I've got a couple of weeks before I get any hints as to if LW is going where I need it to for me.

Yeah, I know, me, all casual like about LW, who knew? Blame life, it's been waaay too "interesting" lately.

art
01-23-2009, 07:32 AM
Then FiberFX would be ... Haircore ?

:D

Just Hairy...

Hidden Halibut
01-23-2009, 07:33 AM
I have gathered from various sources this pertains to the re-release of Vidget, crossing the threshold of the 21st century.

lwaddict
01-23-2009, 07:58 AM
Ha ha...
you know this is LW related.
And genius to get us all rambling on about it in advance...
shear genius...
E...V...I...L...genius I tell ya. :bowdown:

Best part is reading the Mac users theories on a new Mac version...:stop:
haven't they learned that their fully functional version comes out AFTER our windows version?

sandman300
01-23-2009, 09:13 AM
Here is my theory. Newtek marketing has never done something like this before. It's a huge deviation from their normal way of doing things. The last time they did something big for Lightwave they got a lot of flack from the users. That was for last years Lightwave comp. So my theory is that Newtek is planning another competition ... NAB perhaps. Timetable would be about right.

I doubt that Newtek would announce it's plans for Lightwave 10, marketing and users would like it but it would be bad for business. They could say, hey we're working on lightwave 10 so if you buy lightwave 9 now, you get a free upgrade to 10 plus something else.Like they've done before.:D

Jirapong
01-23-2009, 09:23 AM
Agree with Sandman!
I could not even remember when LW9 came, maybe 2005. It mean since that time NT did not make any market much because all point updates were free. There were some new users, but they lost a lot too competitors too, particular the fast development of Modo in the last couple year and the big move of XSI Foundation.
Hope it is really big as advertised.

Earl
01-23-2009, 09:46 AM
The LightWave 3D name, although muddled over the years, is one of the best things NewTek has going for it - especially after they've built it back up with v9. I don't think a new brand for their 3D app is a good idea (i.e. Core), and I don't think that's where they are headed. Perhaps a slight alteration to the LightWave 3D name to make it clear it's the first version of a new core, but even that could backfire.

I do think the countdown was a brilliant move by NewTek. More aggressive, and better thought out marketing is exactly what LightWave needs. Assuming they don't disappoint in 12 days, that is. ;)

MAUROCOR
01-23-2009, 09:58 AM
One thing is very true.
They created a big confusion on our minds and the entire community just talk about that, hehehe...
Nice move, NT!
:thumbsup:

tingham
01-23-2009, 10:02 AM
The only way the marketing hype trumps the business sense is looking at how badly pixologic has destroyed their public image with the 3, 3.12, 3.5 fiasco.

Right now, in this economy I think people are looking for the spirit of things a lot more. This is the best time for viral marketing efforts for any venture.

My hope would be that they focus on core performance, core workflow and core extensibility. If it's a contest, it seems like a really good waste of ad dollars.

When I think about the things that NT would need to do to get me excited about using LW regularly again; it's mostly about the UI and performance.

Think of it this way:

All that Luxology needs to do to put Lightwave in the ground is: Implement particles, implement character animation, implement rigging, implement NLA, keep their user base engaged, fix the UI bugs, fix the workflow bugs, implement megaton scene management.

All that NewTek needs to do to put modo in the ground is: Get their user base excited, redo the user interface to be more modern, buy FPrime.

"Put in the ground" is a loose term here, meaning only to best the other in melee combat. Obviously these businesses have a lot more going for them than just straight out hobbyist software sales.

shadowlock
01-23-2009, 10:16 AM
I got it!!! They are going to give us free copies of the movie The Core...


.... O.K. maybe not :D

colkai
01-23-2009, 10:30 AM
I got it!!! They are going to give us free copies of the movie The Core...

Oh, be still my beating heart! :p :lol:

Andy Webb
01-23-2009, 10:44 AM
I think the countdown will finish and nothing will happen except all our LW license keys will stop working and all our dongles will melt. :D

erikals
01-23-2009, 10:46 AM
"cross the threshold" = "join the darkside"

smells like a certain company bought something...

StereoMike
01-23-2009, 10:54 AM
Just Hairy...
Fiber FX = Harry Breast?

OlaHaldor
01-23-2009, 10:59 AM
You guys are wrong. They're releasing boolean tools for animation - we will be able to create holes in models in Layout.

AND

We will be able to make objects grow without all those fancy (and hard-to-make-it-work) plug-ins..

Hurray! ;D

AbnRanger
01-23-2009, 11:13 AM
I think the countdown will finish and nothing will happen except all our LW license keys will stop working and all our dongles will melt. :DSpeak for yourself, please. Some of use protection...from STD's :D (Software Transmitted Disease)

I use Avast...if you use Trojan (horse), that's why your dongle is burning

geothefaust
01-23-2009, 11:27 AM
All I know is, is that it's certainly Lightwave related. The subject heading of the email from Jay Roth was "Lightwave 3D".

cresshead
01-23-2009, 11:33 AM
could be a new version of inspire 3d...lightwave lite...maybe for netbooks and linux!..

COBRASoft
01-23-2009, 11:56 AM
I think they made the render engine as a seperate core. 90% of the new things were more or less related to the render engine (speed, quality, open structure, ...)

This way it will be easier for them to:

Make a seperate render engine for 3DS, Maya, XSI and so
Built a complete new UI, so Modeler and Layout can be 1 app (or 2 depending on user choice)


The render engine is what LW is known best for, not the modeler and certainly not the CA tools. So, it would be a very smart (and only way) to make their own future brighter.

It's good possible I'm completely wrong and that they finally hired Worley :thumbsup:

Alliante
01-23-2009, 12:09 PM
could be a new version of inspire 3d...lightwave lite...maybe for netbooks and linux!..

Oh I'd be in love with Newtek all over again if they'd have Linux support--just give us a .deb and/or an .rpm :)

cresshead
01-23-2009, 12:10 PM
okay, the cat's out the bag...
amazing!

:thumbsup:

COBRASoft
01-23-2009, 12:13 PM
Cresshead: pitty the DS doesn't have such a high resolution screens :) Nice idea though.

cresshead
01-23-2009, 12:22 PM
there's a zoom feature too...zoom in and out of the u.i. with the L & R keys..simple!

renders pretty swiftly too!:hey:

:D:D:lwicon:


next!

geothefaust
01-23-2009, 12:28 PM
okay, the cat's out the bag...
amazing!

:thumbsup:

LOL

Bad *** man!! It would go well with colors.

Hey... Wait a minute... We could connect our DSs together for network rendering, also, you could connect up another one for Colors! to get a realtime texture painting tool! :D

Jirapong
01-23-2009, 12:32 PM
Noop connecting DS,
but you can wirelessly connect yo Wii and animate with Wii remote and Nunchuck. So, the character animation will be ease and the break-through in 3d industry.

GraphXs
01-23-2009, 12:35 PM
Ha, this is great, did anyone notice in the lower left coner of the meter it looks like a paragraph of text? I wish I had one of those CSI pixel zoom functions so it can tell the computer to un-pixelate the graphic, anyone have one of those?

:thumbsup::lwicon:

geothefaust
01-23-2009, 12:47 PM
Ha, this is great, did anyone notice in the lower left coner of the meter it looks like a paragraph of text? I wish I had one of those CSI pixel zoom functions so it can tell the computer to un-pixelate the graphic, anyone have one of those?

:thumbsup::lwicon:

Yeah I noticed that too.

I think a friend of mine has one of those pixel zoom-unpixelate tools at home. I'll see if she'll let me borrow it. :D

cresshead
01-23-2009, 12:51 PM
like the old saying goes...'its everywhere':D

:newtek:

Sekhar
01-23-2009, 01:28 PM
okay, the cat's out the bag...

You got the wrong one... see this (http://s121386995.onlinehome.us/phil/tri/images/cat-bag.jpg).

butachan
01-23-2009, 02:02 PM
I ussually don't write in forums but I feel compeled to express my feelings....

AAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!! I am loosing my mind that clock is driving me crazy.

DBMiller
01-23-2009, 02:07 PM
After all this speculation will the event equal the build up?

geothefaust
01-23-2009, 02:24 PM
Bro bro bro... DBMiller my man... Live in the moment!

:p

MicroMouse
01-23-2009, 02:26 PM
NewTek is just showing us the new font that will be used in the menus, on the text buttons and in the help files. :D

Wayne

spigolo
01-23-2009, 02:26 PM
if my speculations are right I think that we will see:

a brand new application with many of the things developed also for 9.* series (render engine, hair etc. etc.)

an integrated application (layout & modeler)

a fully nodal approach ( a la houdini)

a new interface and the use of c++

phyton support (I hope or c#)

a sort of gicapolygon core for handling of massive datas..

etc. etc.

what do you think?

DBMiller
01-23-2009, 02:38 PM
Bro bro bro... DBMiller my man... Live in the moment!

:p

Trying, man, I'm trying...:thumbsup:

Dirk
01-23-2009, 03:18 PM
"What's happening in 13 days?"

I don't know, but I know what I would like to see:

I'd like to see an announcement that Newtek will finance a short movie, Sci Fi or Fantasy, Life action plus VFX, with advanced CA (no cartoon stuff), crowd scenes, lots of dynamics / particle effects, etc., made with Lightwave 9.6,

and will release all scenes + stuff as Lightwave content, not only the final scenes, but all stages and R & D Tests, including PDF and video tutorials...

... because that would be real marketing.

theo
01-23-2009, 03:24 PM
Odd name for the best skin shader ever- Core? The multitudinous skins of yore were only vain attempts.:thumbsup:

A Mejias
01-23-2009, 04:32 PM
Ok, now I'm bored...

shadowlock
01-23-2009, 05:14 PM
There is a button and a puzzle on the page!!!

Hopper
01-23-2009, 05:14 PM
I like the idea that they just call it CORE instead of LW. That's an awesome name.
That would suck for me .. The current project I'm working on is called CORE.

geothefaust
01-23-2009, 05:19 PM
There is a button and a puzzle on the page!!!

That's what some one else said, but I've gone over the page a number of times and can't find a thing. Whereabouts is it?

erikals
01-23-2009, 05:19 PM
There is a button and a puzzle on the page!!!

hehe,... indeed :)

Wickster
01-23-2009, 05:22 PM
Whoa!!!
another puzzle...

too many peices...

work shift is over....

have to go home...

but...have to solve puzzle...

ah well i guess I'm working Overtime. :D

shadowlock
01-23-2009, 05:22 PM
Set your browser to refresh everytime you visit the page. Some recycle old cache and do not refresh the page.

Amurrell
01-23-2009, 05:22 PM
So after solving the puzzle I caught something that might say "Generalized object referencing engine"... no no no Centralized object referencing engine CORE. That's got to be it.

erikals
01-23-2009, 05:23 PM
"use space to rotate piezes"

damn, tricky one! :)

Amurrell
01-23-2009, 05:25 PM
So what would a centralized object referencing engine do if that is what CORE stands for?

shadowlock
01-23-2009, 05:29 PM
Solved it
http://www.newtek.com/core/gettingwarmer.php

shadowlock
01-23-2009, 05:34 PM
The photo is from inside Newtek. I noticed the wall when I was there last time.

Someone was watching too much of the Cloverfield viral web ads!! :D

erikals
01-23-2009, 05:35 PM
...i remember Fox Mulder used a program that could reconstruct blurred parts of a photo,... wish i had that... :O

shadowlock
01-23-2009, 05:40 PM
This might be to sneaky....

Ripped out of the flash file:

Wickster
01-23-2009, 05:43 PM
Whoa!!! Does anybody else see that awesome numbered list of features (in orange)? There are 6 key features listed to be exact.

OMG those are some of the best features anyone could ask for...wow..just wow.

Wickster
01-23-2009, 05:44 PM
By the way...I just realized. This seems like a ploy to lead us "away" from the truth. I mean look at the scribbles. It's so...organized.

Back to square one I guess. :D

shadowlock
01-23-2009, 05:46 PM
And the other image....

shadowlock
01-23-2009, 05:50 PM
Nothing new on the code page
http://www.newtek.com/core/message.php

MAUROCOR
01-23-2009, 06:12 PM
I am starting to think that they are SO SO cruel! Certainly it is a kind of joke that you just don´t do.

adamredwoods
01-23-2009, 06:15 PM
http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/highlights2.php
" The actual core of the LightWave rendering engine has been replaced with a modern implementation that reflects some of the latest developments in the CG industry. This new core allows for the addition of new rendering technologies, and lays a very strong foundation for the future. "

jcaesar
01-23-2009, 06:21 PM
Centralized Object Referencing Engine

Looks like a whole new back end to get at the data.

adamredwoods
01-23-2009, 06:22 PM
Hey... I'm noticing something here... or did I just not see these things in LW9.6?
http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/highlights.php


Sketch Image Filter:

This new image filter enables a render to be post processed with a sketch-like treatment.

Improvements in dynamics loading and solving, and workflow improvements including access via the Scene Editor make dynamics more attractive and easier to use. Higher precision in solver engines allow for better results right out of the box.

adamredwoods
01-23-2009, 06:26 PM
Aha!:

"NewTek will be building more and more mesh-editing capabilities into Layout throughout the 9.x development cycle, eventually allowing the user to move the modeling process over to Layout very early, and continue refining the mesh, rigging the mesh, and adding and editing mesh weight and vertex maps directly from within Layout, saving many hours in the creation and animation process. "


...or is this all old stuff?

jasonwestmas
01-23-2009, 06:54 PM
Aha!:

"NewTek will be building more and more mesh-editing capabilities into Layout throughout the 9.x development cycle, eventually allowing the user to move the modeling process over to Layout very early, and continue refining the mesh, rigging the mesh, and adding and editing mesh weight and vertex maps directly from within Layout, saving many hours in the creation and animation process. "


...or is this all old stuff?

Sounds like what NT said immediately after 9.0 was released about two years ago. That has changed.

PhantomPhish
01-23-2009, 07:03 PM
This marketing ploy reminds me of the web game Troy... can't wait to see the next piece of the puzzle.

Amurrell
01-23-2009, 07:43 PM
I'm guessing like my first post, that it's about a centralized object referencing engine (CORE) which was more than likely written on the white board in the background of the image when you complete the puzzle... Okay. I was just wondering if anyone would concur with me on it. If it is, then I think that it would mean a whole slew of things could be possible with it such as, modeling capabilities in Layout, a revamp of the HUB, dynamically updating objects in several scenes simultaneously, the list could go on... I don't know.

Myagi
01-23-2009, 07:54 PM
So what would a centralized object referencing engine do if that is what CORE stands for?

some wild speculations ahead

- something node-ish (/generic object model)
- some enhanced instancing stuff
- a central access to reference objects in any other scene (like say you're doing a new scene and decide you want to use object A from an old scene1 and object B from an old scene2.. guess that might go under enhanced instancing
- some crazy new way of storing editing changes in a referencing graph, that allows arbitrary branching (to apply some changes and then jumping back to any point in history and working from there into a another direction), in essence the idea of the version constrol system 'git' applied to the editing workflow of a 3D app.. yes this is so far out, I just passed pluto


now where'd I put my crack pipe....

COBRASoft
01-23-2009, 07:54 PM
I'm wondering how much fun NT has with all our attempts to figure it out. They are paying us back for all the bad threads about the pre-beta of FiberFX and not giving us more details. Any1 remembers that period?

Well, NT has certainly gotten better at their mystery stuff and keep us waiting for the revelation :)

Chrusion
01-23-2009, 07:55 PM
That and it sounds like we could add INSTANCING to the list, too. :-D

palpal
01-23-2009, 08:02 PM
This is also a massive update to the opengl or what we called opengl in the past, now it will be realtime rendered display of the scene within layout. Integrated with ca realtime and rig base tools and advanced footsteps and artificial intellegence engine of all your characters within a scene... ...and xdof on the lot in realtime and integrated with sculpting and displacement maps and normalmaps and automatic one click uv creation and a massive dynamics, fire, water and volume in realtime and superfast realtime character creation sketching and outlining tool that merges the sketched form into a perfect quad object that never breaks in animation. Merging tools for animation so it can be reassigned to any character in the scene and works stright away after adjusting some smaller datasliders and points... the cool thing is also that it instantly creates art like pixar movies within 10 minutes of use, it mimics the light and surface of a loaded filmclip from a move, analyze it and alter it to be the same, and it even creates art looking like not released films due to the internal core... you can acctually just think about what you want to create and the new core does all for you. Very cool demo they had!

Your PAL :D

A Mejias
01-23-2009, 08:06 PM
Ok, so if you look in the lower left of the image you'll see that one of the hands is actually a stegosaurus.
The old LW 4.0 and 5.0 logo was called the Stegosaurus. Hmmmm. :)


And the other image....http://www.newtek.com/core/photo_nthands.jpg

precedia
01-23-2009, 09:26 PM
Doesn't everyone love to start rumours?

Letterman's "Top 5" possible NewTek announcements:

#5. $200 million investment in NewTek from "strategic" investors. NewTek will announce the start of hiring phenomenal numbers of talent, from software engineers to artists to marketeers. The race is on.

#4. NewTek and Luxology merge forces to battle Autodesk, or one step down, NewTek licenses Luxology's Nexus core and Luxology licenses NewTek technology, forming a strategic alliance to battle Autodesk.

#3. NewTek and Pixar announce a strategic partnership to create the next generation of Pixar and Disney animation technology. Who needs Renderman anyways.

#2. NewTek announces a strategic partnership with Epic Games or id Software to build the next generation real-time rendering engine suitable for both the games industry and Hollywood.

And the #1 possible NewTek announcement....

#1. NewTek announces LightWave 10 features. Yawn. Zzzzzzzzz. Or, could that shake the industry?

Back to work.

Daniel

Wickster
01-23-2009, 09:40 PM
"The Sign is coming to...an end Feb 4th 2009"

SOLVED!

rcomeau
01-23-2009, 11:27 PM
How many times do you have to redo the puzzle with missing peices?????

rcomeau
01-23-2009, 11:27 PM
Boring!!!

snsmoore
01-24-2009, 12:39 AM
I actually hate puzzles(push the red button on the countdown to see the puzzle they just added), but this one is worth the pain.....

I haven't finished it but it looks like the white board image is cut off at the left edge, but I can make the following letters out: (starting from the left edge)

RALIZED
ECT
ERENCING
GINE

So maybe generalized and referencing????

(still working on it....but I may lose patience, no that I have all the bold letter puzzle pieces joined)

-shawn

RedBull
01-24-2009, 12:46 AM
So what would a centralized object referencing engine do if that is what CORE stands for?

Imagine what the HUB was to LW, now imagine what CORE is to the rest of the 3D industry...

It allows many and any 3D application, Including Maya, Max, XSI, Zbrush etc, to all access LW's core in Realtime.

"It allows any Modeling and Animation operations to be seen in any 3D application in Realtime. Using FBX file transfer the TCP/IP core will allow realtime communication between Models, Objects, Textures among multiple 3D programs and allow for editing and animating of the models in XSI or Maya, and instantly watch CORE update all element of the scene in Realtime across multiple packages.

Have 3 3D programs working on the same scene simultaneously, updating realtime info in between them constantly.. Make a surface change in Max and see it instantly in LW's renderer and photoshop at the same time.

CORE will unite the 3D industry into a single large unified technological tour de-force" ;)

snsmoore
01-24-2009, 12:55 AM
Just realized the puzzle was solved earlier. This board is moving fast.

I can just imagine the traffic generated just before the countdown. It will be like an Ebay browser-refresh war!

geothefaust
01-24-2009, 01:03 AM
Yeah definitely has to be...

Centralized
Object
Referencing
Engine

I did it twice while I was watching BSG. :D

Pretty cool. I really like puzzles. I am looking forward to seeing more stuff like this from NT. It's really neat. :)

Wickster
01-24-2009, 01:07 AM
Imagine what the HUB was to LW, now imagine what CORE is to the rest of the 3D industry...

It allows many and any 3D application, Including Maya, Max, XSI, Zbrush etc, to all access LW's core in Realtime.

"It allows any Modeling and Animation operations to be seen in any 3D application in Realtime. Using FBX file transfer the TCP/IP core will allow realtime communication between Models, Objects, Textures among multiple 3D programs and allow for editing and animating of the models in XSI or Maya, and instantly watch CORE update all element of the scene in Realtime across multiple packages.

Have 3 3D programs working on the same scene simultaneously, updating realtime info in between them constantly.. Make a surface change in Max and see it instantly in LW's renderer and photoshop at the same time.

CORE will unite the 3D industry into a single large unified technological tour de-force" ;)
You're sounding kinda official there...but it's it's late so I'll take a second look here again tomorrow. :)

Fadlabi
01-24-2009, 05:11 AM
snsmoore Just realized the puzzle was solved earlier. This board is moving fast.

I can just imagine the traffic generated just before the countdown. It will be like an Ebay browser-refresh war!

it's a competetion between NewTek Team and lightwave user's, who is win?

Verlon
01-24-2009, 06:22 AM
did anyone zoom in on th puzzle and try to read more?

I did a couple of pieces to sort orientatin, and meant to do the whole thing, but it went to the new screen instead.

Verlon
01-24-2009, 06:48 AM
bah, tried it...there was nothing more to see.

AbnRanger
01-24-2009, 07:11 AM
Oh I'd be in love with Newtek all over again if they'd have Linux support--just give us a .deb and/or an .rpm :)
Is it not already hard enough for NT to maintain versions for 2 OS's, and now you'd rather have all development slowed down further by catering to a microscopic community of a 3rd OS (Linux).
It's a lot easier for the end user to choose PC or Mac, than it is for the developers to have to strain their limited resources on a 3rd, that makes up less than 1% of the userbase. :thumbsdow
Same thing applies to 3D Coat...now a few Linux users want to stall development for everybody else, just so they can get a version...when they likely already have Windows or Mac installed.

AbnRanger
01-24-2009, 07:26 AM
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter the Kingdom.

Gospel of Thomas, 22The gospel of thomas who?...Thomas Lee Jones?

AbnRanger
01-24-2009, 07:32 AM
Hehe, you can tell all that from my one post?!?!?

You are smart!:thumbsup: And kind!



Just an opinion. I would gladly be wrong. Wanna put a wager on it being LW 10?
I do a lot of marketing by the way...I could always get better at it.
Wanna bet a seat of LW for it?

dfblem
01-24-2009, 12:12 PM
Just pushed the red, finished the puzzle and now I wait.

shadowlock
01-24-2009, 02:22 PM
Does anyone know what the guys name/position in the picture is?
Longshot but it might be something new under:
http://www.newtek.com/core/(The guys name).php or .swf etc... :stumped:

Chris S. (Fez)
01-24-2009, 02:42 PM
Does anyone know what the guys name/position in the picture is?
Longshot but it might be something new under:
http://www.newtek.com/core/(The guys name).php or .swf etc... :stumped:

Unless I'm wrong...and I'm never wrong...that's Chuck.

jin choung
01-24-2009, 03:31 PM
The gospel of thomas who?...Thomas Lee Jones?

y'know, "doubting thomas". it was one of the gospel accounts that were considered apocryphal and excluded from canon.

jin

jin choung
01-24-2009, 03:33 PM
dang, that puzzle was cool! i didn't even intend to finish it but i just couldn't help myself.

yep, agree with geo... centralized object referencing engine.

sounds good. sounds promising.

anyone try running a sharpen filter or something on that bit of blurred text at the bottom of the cardboard yet?

jin

jin choung
01-24-2009, 03:34 PM
Unless I'm wrong...and I'm never wrong...that's Chuck.

that is chuck and i was quite perturbed in having to manipulate his crotch.

quite perturbed....

jin

geothefaust
01-24-2009, 03:37 PM
that is chuck and i was quite perturbed in having to manipulate his crotch.

quite perturbed....

jin

Normally that wouldn't bother me too much... But I noticed it seemed enlarged.


:D

jin choung
01-24-2009, 03:39 PM
Normally that wouldn't bother me too much... But I noticed it seemed enlarged.


:D

THAT's how good 10 is!

as i said...

"TUMESCENT"!!!

jin

geothefaust
01-24-2009, 03:42 PM
LOL

My girlfriend would agree. She thinks I like LW more then her...

:o

js33
01-24-2009, 04:50 PM
I bet part of CORE is Fprime has replaced OpenGL for near realtime rendering in the main Layout viewport. Also as was stated earlier that CORE becomes the realtime rendering preview using the HUB to allow you to work in any 3D program and view it in CORE. You could model in Modo or Modeler then animate in Maya or XSI then sculpt in Zbrush or whatever and the results will be updated in realtime using CORE.

Now that would be pretty cool.

GregMalick
01-24-2009, 07:00 PM
Does anyone know what the guys name/position in the picture is?
Longshot but it might be something new under:
http://www.newtek.com/core/(The guys name).php or .swf etc... :stumped:

So if Chuck Backer is at the whiteboard - who are the other two guys?

BYW, Centralized Object Referencing Engine probably relates to C++ OOP (Object Oriented Programming) rather than 3D objects and platforms.

I'll also say that would have everything to do with unifying Modeler & Layout and also with positioning all functions to be "node-able". Knowing the focus over the last few years has been the render engine, we'll probably see nodes in the render pipeline ala Digital Fusion. I'm seeing a battle throughout the CG world - faster, higher quality, and more flexible renders. With LW unlimited render nodes, NewTek will most likely stick to their strongest selling point - the render engine.

So there's my latest two cents.... :D

nickdigital
01-24-2009, 09:30 PM
The guy in red is probably J-Rod. As his mug looks like it's a Foundation Imaging mug.

jthompson3d
01-24-2009, 10:33 PM
Guy in white shirt is Tim Jenison, founder and chief technology officer of NewTek.

Go to there managment team page for pictures :D
http://www.newtek.com/newtek/senior_staff.php

and yes the one in red shirt is J-Rod

AbnRanger
01-24-2009, 11:06 PM
that is chuck and i was quite perturbed in having to manipulate his crotch.

quite perturbed....

jinYou mean in person? You do that sort of thing? Jin I thought better of you than that!


...or you talking bout the jigsaw puzzle? :D

Philbert
01-25-2009, 08:11 AM
I got it!!! They are going to give us free copies of the movie The Core...

I would send it back, that movie isn't even worth seeing for free.


Hey... I'm noticing something here... or did I just not see these things in LW9.6?
http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/highlights.php


Sketch Image Filter:

This new image filter enables a render to be post processed with a sketch-like treatment.

Improvements in dynamics loading and solving, and workflow improvements including access via the Scene Editor make dynamics more attractive and easier to use. Higher precision in solver engines allow for better results right out of the box.

I believe William Vaughan did a video tutorial on using the Sketch Filter.


try running a sharpen filter or something on that bit of blurred text at the bottom of the cardboard yet?


Yes just Photoshop's Smart Sharpen, but that filter can only do so much and that cardboard is really blurry.


Guy in white shirt is Tim Jenison, founder and chief technology officer of NewTek.

Is that Tim? I didn't think it looked like him. I've met him a few times and he's awesome. Once back when 8.5 had just come out we were talking and he asked if I had the paper manual, I said "no, only the download version". So he took down my address and had a paper one shipped to me.

monovich
01-25-2009, 12:29 PM
so is that a little bucket being emptied in the sketch?

caesar
01-25-2009, 01:00 PM
Where do you got all this info????


Imagine what the HUB was to LW, now imagine what CORE is to the rest of the 3D industry...

It allows many and any 3D application, Including Maya, Max, XSI, Zbrush etc, to all access LW's core in Realtime.

"It allows any Modeling and Animation operations to be seen in any 3D application in Realtime. Using FBX file transfer the TCP/IP core will allow realtime communication between Models, Objects, Textures among multiple 3D programs and allow for editing and animating of the models in XSI or Maya, and instantly watch CORE update all element of the scene in Realtime across multiple packages.

Have 3 3D programs working on the same scene simultaneously, updating realtime info in between them constantly.. Make a surface change in Max and see it instantly in LW's renderer and photoshop at the same time.

CORE will unite the 3D industry into a single large unified technological tour de-force" ;)

Ernest
01-25-2009, 02:18 PM
The days remaining are now in single digits!!

hrgiger
01-25-2009, 02:35 PM
OK, after working hard with several sharpen filters, combining several apps (Nuke, AE and finally PS) this is what I got. Great Newtek... what a waste of time. :bangwall:
Next time a little more substance please... :mad:

Lol. Is that really what it says?

jin choung
01-25-2009, 02:54 PM
i can't even make out what that is... "hey it up"?

jin

geothefaust
01-25-2009, 02:56 PM
"Step it up"? "F*** it up"?

RollerJesus
01-25-2009, 03:27 PM
"Keep it up"... (?)

hrgiger
01-25-2009, 03:41 PM
Keep it up. But looking at the original, I find it hard to believe you could extract any text information from that blur.

jin choung
01-25-2009, 03:49 PM
hahahaha... if it's actually "keep it up", then "tumescent" was a pretty prescient call! the next sign should be "keep it hard".

oooh, a whole new angle (90degrees) to the sales pitch:

lwX... male enhancement! better than viagra and cialis combined! throbbingly new. pulsatingly tek.

jin

RollerJesus
01-25-2009, 04:27 PM
Lightwave XXX
"Keep it up and Get it done"

Now those marketing folks have it right!

Myagi
01-25-2009, 05:23 PM
it gives a whole new meaning to taking the blue pill

GregMalick
01-25-2009, 07:21 PM
As if....:grumpy:


actually it's "Lighten Up".


Good advice.

hiespike
01-25-2009, 11:29 PM
I read that article someone else linked to. Here's the link again.
http://www.cgfocus.com/article/story/312

Here's the quote:

"Some significant amount of modeling functions are now accessible inside of the Layout portion of LightWave, which will significantly improve workflow, and offer potentially new ways of working and animating within LightWave. This core change was a primary factor in crossing the threshold to the new series." Jay Roth

That sounds as clear as day that Model functions will be incorporated into Layout as a "core" change to how Lightwave works. Puzzle solved!:neener::santa::jester::hijack::D

jin choung
01-26-2009, 12:12 AM
I read that article someone else linked to. Here's the link again.
http://www.cgfocus.com/article/story/312

Here's the quote:

"Some significant amount of modeling functions are now accessible inside of the Layout portion of LightWave, which will significantly improve workflow, and offer potentially new ways of working and animating within LightWave. This core change was a primary factor in crossing the threshold to the new series." Jay Roth

That sounds as clear as day that Model functions will be incorporated into Layout as a "core" change to how Lightwave works. Puzzle solved!:neener::santa::jester::hijack::D

i was gonna comment on that quote when it came up earlier but if that's any indication of the direction that 10 is currently taking, then it seems like there is no or little focus on actual consolidation... just putting more chocolate in the peanut butter and perhaps more peanut butter into the chocolate (ala skelegons, powergons, luxigons).

anyway, interested to see what the deal ends up being.

jin

rossimage
01-26-2009, 01:42 AM
Just to let Newtek know how crazy it is making me, I'm posting my message decode. Note, "more to come" was already suggested on the forum, but I concur. If you think I'm on to something then great.

My translations of the countdown page is:

"More to come" (little type)

"Cross The Threshold" (large type)

The puzzle just means that they have been hard at work at putting the puzzle together. And yes there is a hint as to what CORE may stand for.

"The sign is coming to ... + ?" is "The sine is coming to 9"
(the ... with a line under it and turned clockwise is the Aurek-Besh font for number 9)
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/aurekbesh.htm

sin(9) = 0.412 (not sind(9) aka sin(9*pi/180) as macos calc gives you)

make it a date and you have 04/12

I would figure that we will cross the threshold to LW 10 on 04/12/09. So when the countdown ends the pre-sale begins.

Thanks Newtek now I'm even more crazy. Wrong or Right! Either way it's been fun.

Goodnight

StereoMike
01-26-2009, 04:50 AM
OK, after working hard with several sharpen filters, combining several apps (Nuke, AE and finally PS) this is what I got. Great Newtek... what a waste of time. :bangwall:
Next time a little more substance please... :mad:

@rossimage
I thought (think) this was a joke... so you better don't make it the basis of your speculations... ;)

archijam
01-26-2009, 05:55 AM
To make it clear: the image is just a joke - sorry, thought it would be at least sort of funny. Should have used different smilies, my apologies to those who got (even more) confused. Thought it was pretty clear that nothing substantial can be extracted from that blur. :o

Let's see what the next riddle will be... looking forward to it. :)

:jam:

Oedo 808
01-26-2009, 11:19 AM
To make it clear: the image is just a joke - sorry, thought it would be at least sort of funny. Should have used different smilies, my apologies to those who got (even more) confused. Thought it was pretty clear that nothing substantial can be extracted from that blur. :o

Let's see what the next riddle will be... looking forward to it. :)

Lol, excellent work Oliver. ;D

nemac4
01-26-2009, 11:20 AM
Does anyone know what the guys name/position in the picture is?
Longshot but it might be something new under:
http://www.newtek.com/core/(The guys name).php or .swf etc... :stumped:


hmm... anyone notice...

Centralized
Object
Referencing
Engine

:)

lol.. just read further...never mind

lardbros
01-26-2009, 11:45 AM
hmm... anyone notice...

Centralized
Object
Referencing
Engine

:)

lol.. just read further...never mind

Wow, well spotted... hadn't seen that.

If you grab the last letter of each word you get:

D
T
G
E

Dunno what it could mean though? .... :)






(Of course im just messing!)

mav3rick
01-26-2009, 01:36 PM
i smell lw 10 SDK to be released...

GregMalick
01-26-2009, 02:01 PM
messages thingy on page - now.

Goes to http://www.newtek.com/core/message.php

And is that wall cracking??

vector
01-26-2009, 02:39 PM
Well, I was playing and I type:

http://www.newtek.com/core/message2.php

and I saw that:

http://www.newtek.com/core/images/_MG_0954.jpg

Vector

Hopper
01-26-2009, 02:43 PM
Yes, we're all over it in the other thread .. you guys should come over there. We're having more fun. :p

jthompson3d
01-26-2009, 02:51 PM
I fliped the image and did a little sharppening in Photoshop and see what came out.

http://www.hdanimation.net/-images/_MG_0954_copy.jpg

Hopper
01-26-2009, 02:52 PM
Seriously .. you guys are about an hour behind the other thread...

Don't make this the shortbus thread now .. :D

cagey5
01-26-2009, 02:53 PM
Get a better monitor, it's perfectly readable without sharpening.. ;)

jthompson3d
01-26-2009, 02:54 PM
Seriously .. you guys are about an hour behind the other thread...

Don't make this the shortbus thread now .. :D

Which one, this is the main one I have seen?

art
01-26-2009, 02:57 PM
yeah, that (http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94254) thread has 50+ viewers, this one only 10+ (as of the time of writing) ;)

kopperdrake
01-26-2009, 03:29 PM
Yup - you all need to come over to the other thread party - we're on the shots already, Matt's dancing on the table, Cresshead's cut two eyeholes outta the Milestone folder and wearing it on his head, yelling out Viking profanities and Hopper's mumbling something about 'horsies' into his cider...:jester:

cresshead
01-26-2009, 03:32 PM
join the party...we have CSI style detective work going on you know!

Weetos
01-26-2009, 03:55 PM
Yeah you guys join us to the other thread party, we have rubber hands and boobies over there - and a whole lot of clueless guys - much fun ! :D