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Matt
01-14-2009, 07:03 AM
Came across this, nice to see LightWave getting some press on screen!

:)

http://www.cityscapedigital.co.uk/britain_from_above.html

geothefaust
01-14-2009, 07:07 AM
Bah humbug. Not available in my area. :(

3DGFXStudios
01-14-2009, 07:14 AM
Aholes!!!! I wanne see it...........grrrr

Matt
01-14-2009, 07:33 AM
Dang, thought YouTube might have come to the rescue, but it's not on there.

It was the producer talking about how they did the 'Britain From Above' series and had shots inside Cityscape's studio with them beavering away on LightWave in the background!

:)

Matt
01-14-2009, 07:34 AM
Way to treat your neighbours "over there" :hey:

We get payback when someone from 'over there' posts a Hulu link. And I can never get a proxy to work with it!

Why can't we all just get along!

:D

Matt
01-14-2009, 07:37 AM
Aha! God bless YouTube!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oxrHd6y2wjo

(Actually the video is different from the one I originally linked)

Matt
01-14-2009, 07:50 AM
Stills from the original video I posted:

Matt
01-14-2009, 07:51 AM
But I'm in a neighbouring nation dammit. My "over there" statement was sarcastic given the short distance between our proud Kingdoms :)

I'm surprised actually, I thought it was just the US, Oz and other far away lands that were denied iPlayer!

Matt
01-14-2009, 08:08 AM
Bit dodgy, but I tried a few of those 'download embedded objects' plugins for FF, none worked anyway.

kolby
01-14-2009, 08:12 AM
This is unforgivable discrimination of US outside users ! :cursin:

Matt
01-14-2009, 08:29 AM
Actually, it's just hit me, I know a way around this!

Weetos
01-14-2009, 12:40 PM
Does anyone know any good open proxy located in the UK ? I've tried those listed in http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-country-GB.htm but I just can't get one that works and that's actually open

SaturnX
01-14-2009, 12:44 PM
Came across this, nice to see LightWave getting some press on screen!

:)

http://www.cityscapedigital.co.uk/britain_from_above.html


hehe, well spotted.

Riff_Masteroff
01-14-2009, 12:44 PM
According to the BBC its OK to use software from a company based in Texas, USA . . . but, not to allow a viewer in Virginia, USA to look at the output of that software . . . given that the BBC allows anyone from the UK to look-see.

What is the reason behind such a perverse policy?

Matt
01-14-2009, 12:50 PM
A teeny bit on the naughty side (but the BBC has other Britain From Above videos on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=F5D324185EE73FEC), just not this one) so this is for the benefit of those LightWave users outside of the UK. Recorded the screen using ZD Soft Recorder (http://www.zdsoft.com/) with the sound coming from Stereo Mix.

Grab it while it's hot!

28MB Quicktime H.264
Britain_From_Above_Cityscape_LightWave.zip (www.creactive-design.co.uk/download_temp/Britain_From_Above_Cityscape_LightWave.zip)

:)

Weetos
01-14-2009, 01:15 PM
Thank you so much for this Matt ! (isn't this a bit illegal ? :hey:)

Matt
01-14-2009, 01:46 PM
Thank you so much for this Matt ! (isn't this a bit illegal ? :hey:)

Probably! But it's not like it's some unreleased Hollywood blockbuster, so I'll take my chances for you lot!

geothefaust
01-14-2009, 01:51 PM
:O

Balls, sir, might big ones at that. ;)

Thank you.

WCameron
01-14-2009, 01:55 PM
Its some kind of rights reason. for instance us in the US cant access the Doctor Who, Sarah Jane and Torchwood pages content, because those shows air in the US and the channels that air them should have their own content up. If they want the content from the main pages i guess they have to pay extra for it.

Or atleast thats how it was more or less explained to me last year.

- Will.

Matt
01-14-2009, 02:01 PM
:O

Balls, sir, might big ones at that. ;)

Thank you.

Well, the moment someone tells me to take it down I will, but hopefully those that really wanted to see it will have.

Besides, it's a TV program that has already aired, I wouldn't say this would hurt the BBC.

It's all done with good will.

beverins
01-15-2009, 08:02 AM
Thank you, kind sir, you are a hero and a gentleman :lwicon:

jin choung
01-15-2009, 12:25 PM
right on.... thanks matt!

jin

Cageman
01-15-2009, 01:11 PM
Thanks Matt!

DiedonD
01-16-2009, 12:57 AM
I'm surprised actually, I thought it was just the US, Oz and other far away lands that were denied iPlayer!

Include us too in that list! :mad:

Howcome! And the Beeb was number one news at one time, that glued people to the box throughout the day!

Ahhh Mat, its with vids like these that you put us down... You put us down indeed!

But thanks for the download though, shows youre quite the opposite :D

I saw them both, yeah the one you provided is quite different, and weather its LW or something else is alot better noticable on this link that you provided.


So this is NTs ways. Make LW essential as pharmaceuticals and bread! No need for advs for such essentials!

Mitja
01-16-2009, 02:24 AM
After seeing this video, what I really want to say is ... we need Vray for Lightwave ....
...really??!

Matt
01-16-2009, 04:34 AM
After seeing this video, what I really want to say is ... we need Vray for Lightwave ....
...really??!

For exterior work, I don't think so, but for interior stuff, Vray seems to have the edge with GI, but I could be wrong, I have no idea what the render times are.

Erwin Zwart
01-16-2009, 04:55 PM
After seeing this video, what I really want to say is ... we need Vray for Lightwave ....
...really??!

After seeing this video, I say, this was done in LightWave, so how do you come to your conclusion?
Plus, if you want Vray for Lightwave, you can get kray now and do Vray style interiors and exteriors with that.

Mitja
01-17-2009, 01:31 AM
After seeing this video, I say, this was done in LightWave, so how do you come to your conclusion?
Plus, if you want Vray for Lightwave, you can get kray now and do Vray style interiors and exteriors with that.

I was trying to be sarcastic, you know...
Especially with the ...really??! at the end. :hey:

zardoz
01-17-2009, 02:54 AM
why is it that the bbc doesn't allow people outside the uk watch their videos?

cagey5
01-17-2009, 03:26 AM
It'll be copyrights and 'rights' agreements. Programs are usually made with broadcasting rights only for specific, usually home, markets.

It's the same for us trying to watch US programmes in some cases.

zapper1998
01-17-2009, 06:31 AM
Aholes!!!! I wanne see it...........grrrr

ditto

Riff_Masteroff
01-17-2009, 08:24 AM
Note that the BBC coverage of the US Air flight ditching in the Hudson River NYC was FAR superior to ABC/NBC/CBS. I am in Virginia, US and was allowed to watch that superb coverage on the local PBS (Public Broadcasting System) station WETA.

The corporate-commercial TV channels here essentially blacked out most all coverage of the situation for about 6 hours after it happened. The BBC had a full and detailed report with video 3hrs after the plane ditched.

So I am saying that the BBC is way better than what can be had in the way of TV corporate owned news in the US. It would be nice if the Brits were to throw a bone to the media impoverished US audience and allow us, perhaps as charity because we don't do good news for ourselves, to view BBS feeds without limits.

Captain Obvious
01-17-2009, 12:50 PM
Pretty much everything on the BBC show was rendered in FPrime. Most of it looks alright, I think. Screw Vray! Do you want to know what the "Vray look" is? Catmull pixel filter! That's your bloody "Vray look"!

Matt
01-17-2009, 06:42 PM
Pretty much everything on the BBC show was rendered in FPrime. Most of it looks alright, I think. Screw Vray! Do you want to know what the "Vray look" is? Catmull pixel filter! That's your bloody "Vray look"!

I've found that running 'Sharpen' over renders (and then maybe fading it back a little) gives that Vray-ish look. Turns out, the Catmull-Rom filter increases contrast near edges, so it makes sense!

Larry_g1s
01-17-2009, 07:10 PM
Sweet Matt, thanks. Cityscape does some tremendous work.

Captain Obvious
01-17-2009, 07:30 PM
I've found that running 'Sharpen' over renders (and then maybe fading it back a little) gives that Vray-ish look. Turns out, the Catmull-Rom filter increases contrast near edges, so it makes sense!
Yep, that'd be about right. Would you like to know how to produce the "mental ray look"? Gaussian pixel filter with a radius of 2.

The "Lightwave look"? Box filter.




Sweet Matt, thanks. Cityscape does some tremendous work.
Less of it nowadays, though. :p

Exception
01-17-2009, 07:37 PM
London's done what it always has done best: making money, making compromises...
great way to sell the city :eek:

Larry_g1s
01-19-2009, 09:35 AM
Less of it nowadays, though. :plol I'm sure. But you guy's still do amazing work.

archijam
01-19-2009, 12:29 PM
London's done what it always has done best: making money, making compromises...
great way to sell the city :eek:

That's harsh Tom. Look at it another way: It's all uphill after the Gherkin :thumbsup:

What an architectural blunder that thing was. I will fly to London to watch, the day it get's the dynamite.



pps. Great work guys .. I always like your wobbly glass reflections...

Captain Obvious
01-19-2009, 02:55 PM
lol I'm sure. But you guy's still do amazing work.
No, I mean after I left. :p


Wobbly glass reflections is easy. 5 meter fractal noise, now frequency or whatever it's called. Tweak the opacity/strength until you're happy.

Larry_g1s
01-19-2009, 03:00 PM
No, I mean after I left. :pOh...lol, gotcha. Where are you at now? Why did you leave?

Captain Obvious
01-19-2009, 04:36 PM
Oh...lol, gotcha. Where are you at now? Why did you leave?
http://www.wardevil.com/


Better pay, I guess. Some variation. You know, the usual.

Larry_g1s
01-19-2009, 04:45 PM
http://www.wardevil.com/


Better pay, I guess. Some variation. You know, the usual.What are you doing for them over there?

DiedonD
01-20-2009, 03:27 AM
http://www.wardevil.com/


Better pay, I guess. Some variation. You know, the usual.

Well I even went to Youtube! But I havent found any vids of the actual gameplay! It probably because it isnt out yet!

Is it first person camera slicem game, or does the camera gives the character some space?

mikadit
01-20-2009, 04:55 AM
Thank you Matt for this news, it's quite interesting. :thumbsup:

The problem to not been able to see the video is due to the Cityscape site itself, maybe they added an IP range limitation ... Anyway, the original video is visible at BBC.co.uk, you should just click the title of the video, 3D Modelling (http://www.bbc.co.uk/britainfromabove/stories/behindthescenes/3dmodelling.shtml), that is show under the video itself, in the provided link (http://www.cityscapedigital.co.uk/britain_from_above.html), or go directly here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/britainfromabove/stories/behindthescenes/3dmodelling.shtml ;)

Captain Obvious
01-20-2009, 05:32 AM
Well I even went to Youtube! But I havent found any vids of the actual gameplay! It probably because it isnt out yet!

Is it first person camera slicem game, or does the camera gives the character some space?
If it's not already on the internet, I'm obviously not allowed to talk about it.

DiedonD
01-20-2009, 05:43 AM
If it's not already on the internet, I'm obviously not allowed to talk about it.

Doh!

inakito
01-21-2009, 01:29 PM
No, I mean after I left. :p


Wobbly glass reflections is easy. 5 meter fractal noise, now frequency or whatever it's called. Tweak the opacity/strength until you're happy.


Also donīt forget all the project was rendered by a single person in FPrime and on a single pass... Obviously down to time constraints.

thanks!

Larry_g1s
01-21-2009, 01:31 PM
If it's not already on the internet, I'm obviously not allowed to talk about it.What about my question? "What are you doing for them over there? "

DiedonD
01-22-2009, 12:50 AM
What about my question? "What are you doing for them over there? "

Well since his 'Make Off' isnt on the internets, he probably cant tell you that neither LOL

Captain Obvious
01-22-2009, 03:36 AM
What about my question? "What are you doing for them over there? "
Shaders, textures, that sort of thing. Node editor stuff. :D

Matt
01-22-2009, 04:53 AM
Thank you Matt for this news, it's quite interesting. :thumbsup:

The problem to not been able to see the video is due to the Cityscape site itself, maybe they added an IP range limitation ... Anyway, the original video is visible at BBC.co.uk, you should just click the title of the video, 3D Modelling (http://www.bbc.co.uk/britainfromabove/stories/behindthescenes/3dmodelling.shtml), that is show under the video itself, in the provided link (http://www.cityscapedigital.co.uk/britain_from_above.html), or go directly here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/britainfromabove/stories/behindthescenes/3dmodelling.shtml ;)

It's the same video, I doubt Cityscape restricted access, unless someone from the States can confirm the BBC link works for them? I suspect it won't.

nikfaulkner
01-29-2009, 01:01 AM
"why is it that the bbc doesn't allow people outside the uk watch their videos? "

because the bbc is publicly funded, every household in the uk legally has to pay a tv license of Ģ140 ($288) a year which helps to fund the bbc. it means we have channels with NO advert breaks and get some great programming. we also get to legally use iplayer.

so the reason the bbc doesn't let people outside the uk "officially" watch iplayer is because they don't pay for it :)

it sucks i know that....

a - we get fined\imprisoned for not paying for a tv license (there is no opt out)

b - other countries cant easily use this great bbc product


n.

mikadit
01-29-2009, 04:17 AM
Checked the Therms & Conditions (http://www.bbc.co.uk/emp/terms/):

BBC Embedding Terms of Use

The BBC encourages you to embed its video and audio material on your website as long as you agree to a few terms. Please note:

[...]
Users accessing the video from outside the UK may see an error message
[...]


@ Matt
As above, you are right, it's BBC ...

Lightwolf
01-29-2009, 05:34 AM
so the reason the bbc doesn't let people outside the uk "officially" watch iplayer is because they don't pay for it :)

I think the major reason is that the BBC is actually selling some of its programming abroad, and that would diminish the value of it for a foreign market.

Broadcasting licenses of content are usually per country.

Cheers,
Mike

OnlineRender
01-29-2009, 07:00 AM
I'm surprised actually, I thought it was just the US, Oz and other far away lands that were denied iPlayer!

us an ip spoofer which enables you to choose your country , i use it all the time for my club football team