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praa
11-13-2008, 07:28 PM
hello all techies at newtek !!! read this it will change everything in 3d you can bet on it

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/11/13/ati-puts-stream-everywhere

quoted: "Photoshop/CS4 acceleration is there. Silverlight acceleration is there, DRM and all. Office acceleration is there. Cyberlink and Arcsoft acceleration is there as well, and Arcsoft is said to have ported things in about four weeks. In fact, every mainstream app that Nvidia claims support for seems to be supported by Stream as well. Imagine that.

The main catalyst for this is OpenCL, the new GPGPU API that is being worked on by the Khronos group. Think of it as doing for GPGPU what OpenGL did for graphics. It also supports DXnext and OpenGL where applicable, so it is totally standards based. On top of that, you can write whatever you want, the Brook+ language is the one that AMD is pushing, along with several middleware layers, but you can use any OpenCL aware tool."

9.6 on steroids coming soon? the port seems eaysy to do

Red_Oddity
11-14-2008, 04:57 AM
Still sounds like CUDA, and my personal experience is that still their drivers suck monkey testicals (i keep buying an ATI card every update because of the price point, but i always keep on buying an Nvidia card a couple of weeks later because of the endless frustrations with the ATI display bugs and driver issues.)

Not a fanboy or anything, i just wish their drivers where up to snuff with the hardware.

erikals
11-14-2008, 05:02 AM
I think ATI is better these days as for drivers than they used to be.
though I know that feeling, been a long time since I used an ATI card...

praa
11-14-2008, 10:45 AM
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1408&pageID=5778

meatycheesyboy
11-16-2008, 01:07 AM
I think ATI is better these days as for drivers than they used to be.
though I know that feeling, been a long time since I used an ATI card...

I wish that were true. I bought ati this time around because I wanted 3 monitors and they had the best options for doing so but the drivers in Vista 64-bit crash on me every few days. The saddest part is that usually they crash when I'm just browsing he web, never when I'm actually doing something where the video card has to work.

This is just my experience, it may have something to do with running two video cards.

Elmar Moelzer
11-16-2008, 12:08 PM
There is no free lunch. Yes it does gain you some performance (depending on the application), but at a price. It is also NOT easy to implement into an existing pipeline. So far I see wonderful techdemos every year and then then year after that, but somehow they do not materialize into practical software. Also people often make the mistake to assume that something is automatically realtime, just because it is hardware accelerated.

ScaraBoid
11-18-2008, 10:54 AM
I wonder what :newtek: will do???
AMD/ATI or Nvidia :)

Personally i think this technology can boost LW immensely.

- Like Viper with full options.
- real time voxels.
- all options are dynamically updated in real time( i am dreaming:cool:)

if today it will give like 5X to 10X performance in rendering
in 2 years we are talking 30x to 100x

:newtek: always did some neat innovations. I hope they smoke the competition with this one. :dance:

novawave
11-19-2008, 01:40 AM
Still sounds like CUDA, and my personal experience is that still their drivers suck monkey testicals (i keep buying an ATI card every update because of the price point, but i always keep on buying an Nvidia card a couple of weeks later because of the endless frustrations with the ATI display bugs and driver issues.)

Not a fanboy or anything, i just wish their drivers where up to snuff with the hardware.

I experience the opposite,..

my office 8600GT always freezing my LW especially when i change the surface on modeller and also make me cant resize or move movie on realtime preview on adobe premier 1.5 (dunno why, i've try call the customer service, and got suggestion to update ...and then i upgrade my driver,..yet it still the same,.. i even reinstall the OS,..but nothing change..
and since our office was go on crazy dead line with lowest budget possible, our office downgrade to some cheap stock radeon 1950 pro which just bundled on old catalyst 8.8
Surprisingly it working fine and stable on LW 9.5 and adobe
i guess ATi card driver are improving this days,

as for their new "stream", :)well.......... if it could helping Lightwave (radiosity, hipervoxel, and dynamic , multimillion Polys)rendering out,...and keep on their price point advantage.. i'll add another RADEMON on my personal PC to QUADFIRE X lol..lol.lol

Stooch
11-23-2008, 03:13 AM
what the hell, and i just got an Asus GTX 260. doh.

RedBull
11-23-2008, 01:17 PM
OpenCL is backed by Nvidias and ATI as well as Apple, Kronos etc....

CUDA is already well in front and is Nvidia only, But programs like LiquidPack for LW or 3DCoat already have CUDA enhanced versions now. Or you can also hack WPA-PSK protocol much faster.....

Ati will be someway behind by the time OpenCL is ratified.

mav3rick
11-29-2008, 06:59 AM
what the hell, and i just got an Asus GTX 260. doh.

why not 280?

WillBellJr
12-02-2008, 11:07 AM
As I rule, I NEVER buy ATI graphics (based on past experience) - I'll have to wait and see on this one.

-Will

praa
12-09-2008, 12:36 PM
OpenCL is now out in the open :)

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/12/09/opencl-opens-business

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/09/opencl_1_released/

praa
01-03-2009, 09:46 PM
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3488

zapper1998
01-04-2009, 07:52 AM
oh wow...
to much info, need more coffee ...

silviotoledo
03-03-2009, 08:16 AM
and then.. will we have 9.6 on steroids?????

praa
04-06-2009, 01:09 PM
physics open standard on openCL now a reality

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/673/1051673/ati-physics-argument