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cresshead
11-08-2008, 05:51 PM
24"montor died..looking for another>ideas?
was a el cheapo acer...didn't last even a year!
colors whet all whacky tonight plus with weird lines etc....
i'll re try it tomorrow, but i've never been happy with this monitor anyhow...

no rush..i've pluged in a spare 19" acer which is okay for now on my quadcore.

been looking at this dell>>

Dell S2409W Full HD Monitor
# ull HD 1920 x 1080 resolution
# 16:9 dynamic aspect ratio
# HDMI high quality digital connection

Total 248.99

Stooch
11-08-2008, 06:17 PM
i love my dell. :) i have the 24inch wfp model.

Matt
11-08-2008, 06:18 PM
I would read as many reviews of ANY Dell monitor you can find, I had to send back my Dell 24" 2408WFP, it was terrible!

Stooch
11-08-2008, 06:19 PM
lol well my review is pretty glowing :) i have the 2407 wfp rev D

keep in mind that i specifically searched and purchased that revision :)

cheaper end lcds tend to be spotty with all brands, its all about the quality of the parts they integrate and it just comes down to whats available at a given price and at a given time.

there are people who swear by 3 year old dell monitors...

Matt
11-08-2008, 06:31 PM
Yep, the 2407WFP uses a S-IPS panel type, the 2408WFP uses a S-PVA panel, BIG difference.

Why they changed this I'll never know, as the later revisions of the 2407WFP were great. Not so with the 2408WFP.

Matt
11-08-2008, 06:39 PM
This forum is always good for advice from users who own various monitors:

http://www.hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=78

Matt
11-08-2008, 06:54 PM
And don't forget this place too:

http://en.community.dell.com

rakker16mm
11-08-2008, 07:26 PM
I have a Dell E198WFP which I like much better than my previous Dell which was fine as long as I was only editing static images. If anything was moving across the screen like a yellow object over a blue background I would get a red edge. It was almost enough to induce a grand mall seizure. I was so happy when that monitor died and I found its replacement on my desk.

I also have an Acer which is OK, but not great. I've managed to get them both color matched with each other fairly well so they will do for now.

JonW
11-08-2008, 08:16 PM
I have got the Dell 2407 (I can’t comment on the new 24”) its almost as good as the old “Sony 21 CRT”. Also have the Dell 3008, had to send back the first one, too much brightness and colour variation across the screen, the second one is better but not brilliant. I am mainly using it for Lightwave and reading drawings, having the extra real estate is more of a priority. Its great with Lightwave, especially Modeler. If you can stretch your budget to a larger screen its well worth it just for the real estate.

cresshead
11-09-2008, 03:26 AM
cheers chaps!
i will have a look thu those links

seems getting a decent 24" screen isn't as simple as it should be thesedays
anyone comment on the apple displays?

Glendalough
11-09-2008, 05:42 AM
cheers chaps!
i will have a look thu those links

seems getting a decent 24" screen isn't as simple as it should be thesedays
anyone comment on the apple displays?

Be interested to see what you come up with!

I had to send a 24 inch Dell back and it seems last years models were much better than this years. If you really did research, you might get a good refurb from the right period, batch at reasonable price.

Seems there are 3 things involved:

The panel, only so many companies make these in so many sizes.

The the electronics running the panel, so unfortunately, a good panel could have bad electronics.

And finally the brand and all that entails.

The Apple monitors seem to have better quality control than the Dell but are very expensive, but there again, as some people have complained about various issues it might be better to get a second hand one. I'm stuck at the moment waiting. There was a very good thread here sometime in the last 6 months on monitors.

Lightwolf
11-09-2008, 06:01 AM
You might find something decent here, the reviews are fairly thorough and decent:
http://www.prad.de/en/index.html

Cheers,
Mike

cresshead
11-14-2008, 01:48 PM
update>

sent off the acer monitor for repair today, also currently looking at
a 28" monitor over on amazon!
and it's cheap..and gets good reviews too.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/HannsG-HG281DP-Widescreen-TFT-Monitor/dp/B000YAHWF2

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ofyVT04uL._SS500_.jpg

Auger
11-14-2008, 01:57 PM
update>

sent off the acer monitor for repair today, also currently looking at
a 28" monitor over on amazon!
and it's cheap..and gets good reviews too.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/HannsG-HG281DP-Widescreen-TFT-Monitor/dp/B000YAHWF2

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ofyVT04uL._SS500_.jpg

I wouldn't get that Hanns-G monitor unless you check one out in person. I looked into those a couple months back and they were total garbage...:eek: I mean REALLY bad...

cresshead
11-14-2008, 02:15 PM
ahh..interesting!....thanks for the heads up on that.....yeah sounds abit too good to be true i surpose

the thing that had my pause on it was the low contrast ratio [800:1] compared to my acer with 1000:1
and the dell which is 3000:1

Auger
11-14-2008, 02:38 PM
This site has some pretty thorough reviews of monitors: http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/reviews.html You might want to check it out.

Exception
11-15-2008, 02:41 PM
been looking at this dell>>

Dell S2409W Full HD Monitor
# ull HD 1920 x 1080 resolution
# 16:9 dynamic aspect ratio
# HDMI high quality digital connection


I'd steer clear if you like color reproduction and view angles. That's a TN panel, lowest quality there is. Fair chance it's also a 6 bit panel... yikes.
Look up panel types here: http://www.flatpanels.dk/panels.php

You want a VA or IPS type panel, not TN, for graphics work.

I have one 24" IPS with unbeatable angles and color gamut/reproduction, and one NEC MVA panel with slightly less viewing angles, but VA panels have better black points.

Exception
11-15-2008, 02:48 PM
Grr that edit time limit...

IPS = best color + viewing angles, black point soso
xVA = Good color + viewing angles, black point good.
TN = rubbish for everything but refresh-speed

I have one 24" IPS with unbeatable angles and color gamut/reproduction (apple), and one NEC MVA panel with slightly less viewing angles, but VA panels have better black points. Most apple screens are IPs panels (hence their cost), NEC makes good judgement on VA panels as to which ones are worth anything, Dell is a hit-and miss, be sure to check up what panel they use, Samsung has a few nice ones, but not all.

That databse link is a super valuable tool. You can check the panel type of any monitor in a jiffy.

Exception
11-15-2008, 02:55 PM
Sorry my nec is a S-PVA not an MVA, the 2470WNX.