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doimus
10-30-2008, 08:11 AM
Such as Lenovo L220x?

I'm thinking about getting one, as it tends to get excellent reviews over the net... But I'm worried about actual pixel size on 22" diagonal with 1920x1200 resolution. Especially for Lightwave usage - small text labels, point selections and such.

I'm sitting quite far from the screen, too. Kind of worries me if the pixels are just too small, and I'll have to constantly lean into it to select few points! :D

I guess this question could be asked about 20" screens with 1680x1050 resolution also.

IMI
10-30-2008, 09:05 AM
I'm using a 24" monitor @ 1920x1200 and a 22" monitor @ 1680x1050, in a dual monitor setup with LW (Both Acer. Not the best, but still really nice for the price), and I love it - wouldn't have it any other way.
I have no trouble at all reading any of the text or anything - it's definitely not too small, pixellated, distorted in any way or anything. Just beautiful. :)

How far from the screen do you mean by "quite far"? My desk is 3' deep and the 24" is at the back of that, head-on, while the 22" is about 2' from me, at the right, and angled towards me. Like I said, no trouble at all reading text or seeing anything in LW, or in any programs, for that matter.

virtualcomposer
10-30-2008, 09:16 AM
The Dell 2408 is a nice monitor as well which runs about $550 but well worth it. It's HD and with the new firmware, easily adjustable.

Hopper
10-30-2008, 09:19 AM
I had the luxury of borrowing a friends 30" Cinema HD monitor last weekend and although it was one of the most pleasing experiences using LW and playing games, I did find myself scooting in, then scooting back constantly to see points. I was in 2560x1600 mode and it was absolutely phenominal. It was like having an entire monitor for each view port.

After modeling for a couple of hours, I didn't even notice anymore.

And gaming at that resolution with all the setting on high is unreal. Crystal clear and in your face.

Then Monday came ... and back to the dual crappy panels I went. :(

I'm ordering the 305T next month. Now I HAVE to have one.

virtualcomposer
10-30-2008, 09:20 AM
I had the luxury of borrowing a friends 30" Cinema HD monitor last weekend and although it was one of the most pleasing experiences using LW and playing games, I did find myself scooting in, then scooting back constantly to see points. I was in 2560x1600 mode and it was absolutely phenominal. It was like having an entire monitor for each view port.

After modeling for a couple of hours, I didn't even notice anymore.

And gaming at that resolution with all the setting on high is unreal. Crystal clear and in your face.

Then Monday came ... and back to the dual crappy panels I went. :(

I'm ordering the 305T next month. Now I HAVE to have one.

Have you checked out the new LED 24" cinema display? All I can say is WOW!

3DGFXStudios
10-30-2008, 09:28 AM
I think 1920x1200 is a to low resolution for a 22'' screen..... I wouldn't buy that one doimus!

IMI
10-30-2008, 09:30 AM
Off topic, but I had a BenQ 24" which cost something like 600 bucks and crapped out after less than 6 months.

Hopper
10-30-2008, 09:35 AM
Have you checked out the new LED 24" cinema display? All I can say is WOW!
I would like to. I need to find a few places where I can see them in person. The only reason I would buy the 305T unseen is because it uses the same Philips panel that the Cinema HD displays use. The color was consistent all the way across (the contrast was a tad low at 700:1), and the response time of the 305T is 8ms - which is pretty amzing for a panel of that size.

I'm willing to look at anything new - I'll try to check one out. Thanks. :thumbsup:

doimus
10-30-2008, 09:56 AM
I guess most of you misinterpreted my question. It wasn't about having large monitor with large resolution(of course it's better that way!) - it was about having a not so large (22") panel with large resolution (1920x1200) - notice the discrepancy between diagonal size and pixel count.


I think 1920x1200 is a to low resolution for a 22'' screen..... I wouldn't buy that one doimus!

That's what I'm interested in - have you worked on any of those low dot-pitch monitors? I haven't - I'm still on 1280x1024 and 1280x800.
Looking at the screen in store doesn't help much - everything seems disproportionate when sitting on the shelf....

If someone uses LW on laptops with resolution larger than 1440pxl on 15.4" I would like to hear their opinion also...

IMI
10-30-2008, 09:59 AM
I guess most of you misinterpreted my question.





Oh, sorry about that, I guess that was my fault.
I couldn't tell you. 1680x1050 is the native resolution for my 22" monitor and since it looks great that way, I see no point in changing it.

3DGFXStudios
10-30-2008, 10:05 AM
I've worked for a year with a dell 22" at 1920x1200. It's a great screen but I prefer something bigger.

ANS
10-30-2008, 10:08 AM
for me, 22" with such high resolution as 1980x1200 don't look good- i don't like when pixels are too small :)
Personally i use Samsung 245T - really good monitor, and now i think about two monitor setup....

3DGFXStudios
10-30-2008, 10:17 AM
hey that's funny. I like when pixels are small. Looks like it's all up to you doimus! ;)

I work on 3x 19'' triniton monitors. The go to 2048x15??. That's even to small for me. 1600x1200 or 1920x1440 is great on these things. Also I get less tired looking at these things for a whole day....

iconoclasty
10-30-2008, 10:39 AM
I don't understand why people would complain about their resolution being too high. Just move the monitor closer for goodness sake.

3DGFXStudios
10-30-2008, 10:49 AM
I'm sitting 25 cm away from my screens.... maybe that's the trick!!

gerry_g
10-30-2008, 11:03 AM
In all honesty 22" isn't big enough for 3D, even a single 30" feels cramped

RudySchneider
10-30-2008, 07:11 PM
...If someone uses LW on laptops with resolution larger than 1440pxl on 15.4" I would like to hear their opinion also...

I use a Dell Inspiron 8500 laptop; 15.4" monitor, 1920x1200. I'd be miserable with less resolution. In fact, i'm disappointed that most of the newer 17" and 18.4" (HP) laptops haven't bumped up their resolution! However, I'm with you, I don't think 1920x1200 is fine enough for a 22" monitor.

Speedmonk42
10-30-2008, 07:39 PM
I don't recall seeing a 22 inch wuxga monitor, only wsxga.

Almost all wuxga monitors are 24inches.

Lightwolf
10-31-2008, 03:15 AM
I don't recall seeing a 22 inch wuxga monitor, only wsxga.
Which is why I googled for the monitor that was mentioned in the first post ;)

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?GroupID=38&Code=4433HB2&current-category-id=A6FA9FD6D1CB4B52973EAE93B7B4AEF6

Neat, and it's not really worse than the display of a small notebook as far as the dot pitch is concerned.

Cheers,
Mike

akademus
10-31-2008, 06:18 AM
Which is why I googled for the monitor that was mentioned in the first post ;)

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?GroupID=38&Code=4433HB2&current-category-id=A6FA9FD6D1CB4B52973EAE93B7B4AEF6

Neat, and it's not really worse than the display of a small notebook as far as the dot pitch is concerned.

Cheers,
Mike

I went for two Samsung T220 22", they run on 1680x1050. I should went for Viewsonics, but couldn't get them at the time. These are fairly good and there are two of them so it's kinda long neck stretch from side to side :D

Lightwolf
10-31-2008, 06:22 AM
I went for two Samsung T220 22", they run on 1680x1050.
Too bad, I had a closer look at the Lenovo and had a look at some in depth reviews as well. They seem to be extremely decent for graphics work (compareable 24" displays seem to cost around 50% more or so). The only downsides seem to be the missing HDCP support and the fact that it is overly bright.

Quite tempting though, especially for the price.

Cheers,
Mike

akademus
10-31-2008, 07:46 AM
Too bad, I had a closer look at the Lenovo and had a look at some in depth reviews as well. They seem to be extremely decent for graphics work (compareable 24" displays seem to cost around 50% more or so). The only downsides seem to be the missing HDCP support and the fact that it is overly bright.

Quite tempting though, especially for the price.

Cheers,
Mike

Anyhow, it's quite pleasant workspace. Enough room for everything, well, almost everything :)

jburford
10-31-2008, 08:41 AM
I'm sitting 25 cm away from my screens.... maybe that's the trick!!

lol, 25 cm away, as opposed to wearing glasses? :) Or are you joking? (I hope)

tribbles
10-31-2008, 12:35 PM
I use a Dell Inspiron 8500 laptop; 15.4" monitor, 1920x1200. I'd be miserable with less resolution. In fact, i'm disappointed that most of the newer 17" and 18.4" (HP) laptops haven't bumped up their resolution! However, I'm with you, I don't think 1920x1200 is fine enough for a 22" monitor.

My Inspiron 8500 died a couple of weeks ago (for the third time), but it was great at 1920x1200. It's the lowest resolution I'd want to go (the MacBook Pro I got to replace it [about 6 months beforehand] is also 1920x1200) - but the actual screen size I don't really consider to be that much of a problem.

Sure I'd love to go 30" and 2560x1600 (but I'd need two screens), but I'm (currently) happy at 24", and at 22" I'd still be happy - I'd probably move the screens a bit closer to me though.

doimus
10-31-2008, 01:27 PM
Too bad, I had a closer look at the Lenovo and had a look at some in depth reviews as well. They seem to be extremely decent for graphics work (compareable 24" displays seem to cost around 50% more or so). The only downsides seem to be the missing HDCP support and the fact that it is overly bright.

Quite tempting though, especially for the price.


Yes, Lenovo is THE monitor to get for that price, if it weren't for the damned small pixels.

For the price of one Lenovo 220x I could get two cheap Samsung 22" 1680x1050 models with TN matrix, but I really don't want to save money on computer screens. I followed that policy of my eyes being more important than my money ever since I got my first PC monitor back in 1993 (and what improvement that was over a C64 plugged into a TV) and it's been only trinitron CRTs and nice LCD matrices since then. I may use cheap-*** mATX mobos sometimes but my screens must be top notch, really.;D

Ironically, I use cheap 5ms TN matrix LCD at work for hours daily, but it's really only for Autocad, text, web browsing and such. I only occasionally work in LW or photoshop on that machine, and it gets kind of ugly and tiresome when it comes to LW's grey background with small letters (lots of dithering and uneven backlight).

Ratboy
11-02-2008, 06:36 PM
I'd say go with it. The more resolution the better. I've got a 25.5" Acer at 1920x1200 and I find myself having to turn my head a lot while working - 22" at the same resolution (and new glasses...) would probably be a bit easier on me.

Friends of mine in the movie biz say that 30" monitors gives you a noticeable productivity boost, so I'm saving up for that leap next.

doimus
11-04-2008, 07:43 AM
I think I'll wait a bit longer. Lenovo is apparently going to release it's 24" big brother, with LED backlit and DisplayPort. I'll wait and see for how much it'll go...

http://www.desktopreview.com/default.asp?newsID=480
(scroll down until they mention L2440x)

Andrewstopheles
11-04-2008, 07:55 AM
I've got a 17" laptop and the resolution is 1920x1200. Lightwave loves it. No problems picking points, etc.
If only I had a numpad!

Lightwolf
11-04-2008, 08:06 AM
I'll wait and see for how much it'll go...


The L2440x will command a rather hefty $749.99.

Cheers,
Mike

doimus
11-04-2008, 11:23 AM
Oh, but that's the ideal price in the country of Americas.;D

On the other hand, I live in the wonderful little country of huge taxes and enormous trade margins!
FYI, $750 is just a little more that 22" model costs over here, so anything under $1000 is a steal!

Lightwolf
11-04-2008, 11:27 AM
On the other hand, I live in the wonderful little country of huge taxes and enormous trade margins!
FYI, $750 is just a little more that 22" model costs over here, so anything under $1000 is a steal!
*ouch* How about mis-using this thing called the interweb - I hear it even allows for shopping across State borders ;)

Cheers,
Mike

doimus
11-04-2008, 03:01 PM
Er, did I forget to mention the backstabbing customs? Can't fool the system!:D

Although I did manage to smuggle something past them once - it was my copy of lightwave, actually. But that's just because it was second-hand and packed in a box full of used books. And books are thankfully tax-free (got half of amazon.com inventory on my shelves).

Tiger
11-04-2008, 03:12 PM
The 2493HM has everything that you need.