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jvavra
08-05-2003, 10:51 AM
I have asked this question many times and never got a full answer back from Newtek. Maybe I can try this forum now.
On this page:
http://www.newtek.com/community/training/atc.html
I notice that they have newtek certified courses taught by Newtek Authorized Instructors. I am an instructor at a college teaaching Lightwave and would love to be Authorized. How do you become a Newtek Authorized Intructor?!!

Thanks.:confused:

jvavra
08-07-2003, 05:56 PM
Just moving the thread up. I can't seem to get a reply on this issue.

jvavra
08-07-2003, 06:47 PM
Just moving the thread up. I can't seem to get a reply on this issue.

SplineGod
08-07-2003, 07:09 PM
Id contact William. :)

Skin Boat
08-08-2003, 10:53 PM
Contact Dan Ablan.
He posted somewhere about this.
I've taken his courses (in person) and they are excellent. He is clearly the best LW instructor out there. Perhaps he can help you - I know he's great about replying to people.

Maybe contact Chuck or Proton at NewTek too.

SB

SplineGod
08-09-2003, 12:38 AM
Hey Jvavra,
Ive also taught Lightwave at the college level out in New Mexico and Ive also taught in other schools and many seminars around the country. I was teaching some classes for Newtek at San Antonio college during Siggraph there. The classes were well attended and turned out very well. I also taught some Lightwave classes this Siggraph at the Art Institute down in San Diego and a Lightwave 8 class along with Jen Hachigian at Siggraph. I have a few ideas about teaching this stuff so when you have a chance drop me an email. I have an Intro to Lightwave Course that is doing quite well and is being used as far away as New Zealand. It works out quite in a classroom situation because it focusses on realworld sort of tasks; modeling, texturing, lighting, rigging, storyboarding, animating and visual f/x but all completely project based. Take care! :)

Andy_D
08-09-2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by SplineGod
I have an Intro to Lightwave Course that is doing quite well and is being used as far away as New Zealand.

I can vouch for that :)

Larry is a first class instructor and his courseware is worth every penny - the best money I have ever spent on LW training!.
Nuff said.

Andy

prospector
08-09-2003, 09:54 AM
what is an 'authorized instructor' ???

I've been doing this since ver 3 and the toaster too

because I am not an 'authorized instructor' I can't have someone come over to learn LW ??

Since when does a piece of paper that says you are 'authorized' make someone better?

Was B. Gates 'Authorized' when he started MS. ?

Was even T. Jennison 'Authorized' when he developed the Toaster ?

I think I would rather have anyone (plumber, woodworker,electrition, car mechanic), that has been doing his job for 10 or 20 years and never went to be 'Authorized' than someone a week out of a school for any of the above with a piece of paper that says he has been 'authorized'

SplineGod
08-09-2003, 10:38 AM
Thanks Andy! I appreciate the comments. :)
Prospector,
If youre a good instructor thats what mainly counts. I think the "authorized" part was mainly targetted at dealers who may not have known VT3 or LW very well and Newtek wanted to make sure that they had received training that they felt was covering what the dealer needed to know.

jvavra
08-09-2003, 11:53 AM
Hello all,

Thank you so much for responding. I have been trying to get some answers from Newtek for about 4 months through phone calls and emails, so I figured the forums would be my last resort. By doing this though, William did respond to me saying he would check out what is going on with this matter.

SplineGod: I will e-mail you. thanks.

Prospector: I too started out with version 3 in Lightwave and also know various other major 3d packages. I am teaching Lightwave at a college level and have been doing it for over 3 years. No I don't need a piece of paper telling me whether or not I can do my job correctly. SplineGod was right about getting "authorized". It is primarily for college I am working for. They want to be on the Newtek page for authorized dealers. Newtek just won't let anybody up on their page.

As an instructor I am always striving to be better than I was the day before. By looking at other courseware from other lighwave teachers, I can get a better ideas on how to present the material in different and more imaginative ways.

I went to Larry's Tour at the beginning of the year and it was great. Everything was presented in a manner of "doesn't really make sense, OHHHH thats what you meant". I love that way of teaching and I add it within my own teaching methods. I love hearing OHHH from students. It is the greatest feeling.

Thanks all for the positive responses.

SplineGod
08-09-2003, 01:02 PM
Hey jvavra, glad you liked it. I enjoy teaching this stuff thats for sure. :)

prospector
08-09-2003, 01:08 PM
Ahhh
for dealers
thanks

read my post again and maby it sounded a little mean, and didn't mean it to be that way.

Strange tho, as there was/is an opening at the local college here for a LW instructor.

But they want someone that is 'authorized' but even need a Bachelors degree.

A bachelors degree to teach LW ??????
they have bachelors degrees in LW now??

Think I will start my own classes and take the collage money they charge away from them by only charging half as much as them.

I don't think it really takes a college degree to teach this program, and I will show people how to go from building models and take them all the way to putting the finished stuff into film with the VT2 for less than what the college charges for both classes.

oops getting grumpy again..gotta stop that
But this is California tho, so there may be different laws in this country.

DigiLusionist
08-09-2003, 07:51 PM
Prospector, it's not a slam arbitrarily made against guys who can do this with their eyes closed but who don't have a degree.
The degree can be in Basketweaving.

The colleges just want whoever teaches to have a Bachelors Degree because it is a minimum credential requirement for instructors at the College level (as mandated by the boards oversee the university curriculum).

At such places, it also is desirable for a program to be taught by an Authorized Instructor in order to make students feel like the instructor has been checked out by SOMEONE who know whether they're qualified to TEACH. It's not automatic that a LWer's going to be good at communicating the techniques well, just cause they have a good reel.

prospector
08-09-2003, 09:24 PM
Ohhh
comunicating..
not good
I got no patience

OK thanks all

dablan
08-10-2003, 09:38 PM
Hey Jvavra,

feel free to contact me personally if you need any questions answered. I'm online all the time, or just call my office at 847.755.4488.

I've been teaching LightWave since 1994, with columns in magazines since then as well, including Video Toaster User, LightWave Pro, and 3D Design, as well as articles in 3D World magazine. I'm now Editor of Keyframe Magazine in addition to daily animation work and authorized training at AGA Digital Studios, Inc in Chicago. I've worked with NewTek on their World Training Tours, and demoed for them at trade shows.

But also, I'm now working on my 7th LightWave book for New Riders Publishing. These books are to date the best selling LightWave books around the globe, in Japan, Germany, Spain, Italy, Poland, and even France. You can get up to date training through any of my 15 videos through Class On Demand.net as well, in which I host LightWave videos. No other instructor of LightWave can offer you this.

Additionally, I've created 3D Garage.com, and our Signature Course has done extremely well, as we've trained people in Germany, Switzerland, Australia, Japan, Spain, the United Kingdom, and of course many in the United States. Feel free to download an hour and a half of the course at www.3dgarage.com - you can also read just a few of the repsonses we've received from our students.

Hope to work with you soon.
Thanks!

Randog
08-10-2003, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by dablan
Hey Jvavra,

feel free to contact me personally if you need any questions answered. I'm online all the time, or just call my office at 847.755.4488.

I've been teaching LightWave since 1994, with columns in magazines since then as well, including Video Toaster User, LightWave Pro, and 3D Design, as well as articles in 3D World magazine. I'm now Editor of Keyframe Magazine in addition to daily animation work and authorized training at AGA Digital Studios, Inc in Chicago. I've worked with NewTek on their World Training Tours, and demoed for them at trade shows.

But also, I'm now working on my 7th LightWave book for New Riders Publishing. These books are to date the best selling LightWave books around the globe, in Japan, Germany, Spain, Italy, Poland, and even France. You can get up to date training through any of my 15 videos through Class On Demand.net as well, in which I host LightWave videos. No other instructor of LightWave can offer you this.

Additionally, I've created 3D Garage.com, and our Signature Course has done extremely well, as we've trained people in Germany, Switzerland, Australia, Japan, Spain, the United Kingdom, and of course many in the United States. Feel free to download an hour and a half of the course at www.3dgarage.com - you can also read just a few of the repsonses we've received from our students.

Hope to work with you soon.
Thanks!

Every place I have worked, including my current employer, most Lightwave artists have an "Inside Lightwave" book on their desk. I don't mean the interns. I am talking about the seasoned veterans.

I have not had the opportunity to look at a lot of the other Lightwave material that is currently available these days, so I cannot comment directly to them - However I haven't seen them on people desks at work either.

SplineGod
08-10-2003, 11:46 PM
Ive heard very few complaints about Dans books, most ppl seem to like them. :) Randy has contributed to them as well and is working on a book too. Hes also done some teaching as well. It all helps raise overall awareness. :)
Jvavra,
3 yrs is quite awhile to be teaching. Ive been involved with teaching 2D, 3D and video since way back on the Amiga.
I was involved in El Paso Texas with the Ysleta School district years ago working with ESL, At Risk and Dropout Recovery programs. I was able to get complete video toaster editing setups in every single one of the middle and high schools and some additional labs in that district. This goes back to the late 80s, and early 90s. Ive lost count of the multimedia labs Ive setup for various schools over that time frame. Ive even had to teach it in spanish which is a challenge since its hard enough to do in English. One of the great things about doing this for so many years ( and Im sure you can relate to it) is that its not just the material but knowing HOW to teach regardless of the material.
Another useful thing Ive found that has helped me out is having a diverse background in many things. I was involved with Sandia Labs building Lasers for the SDI program. I know Randy has an engineering background too. It helps on many occassions to draw on those old experiences. Its probably not a bad idea to look at all the various alternatives. :)
What were you doing before you started teaching this stuff?

jvavra
08-11-2003, 09:54 AM
Thanks for all of the great replies. Especially Larry, Randy, and Dan. I appreciate the great work you have put into the Lightwave community.

Dan:
Great books, I even use "Inside Lightwave 7" in my intro class. I get some really good responses from the Broadcast tutorial. I will get in contact with you. thanks.

Larry:
You have been doin this for a while. That is great. I am sure you are getting pretty close to completing the craft of instruction. If you are like me, I will never be happy unless everybody gets understands. Before I was teaching, I was getting my second degree in Digital Animation Production. Also while going to school, I was doing some freelance web design work and creating some 3d graphics for a magazine style type of web site. After that web company went down I came down back to TX to teach LW at my first college. It is great. I love teaching it and I wish I had more than 2 semesters to teach it. Try cramming in everything you can teach for LW in 2 semesters.
That is my trouble right now. I will probably e-mail you soon asking some of these questions, if you don't mind of course.


Thanks everybody so much and this is a great thing that instructors are sharing their knowlege on presentation of material. Who knows where this can lead.

dablan
08-11-2003, 09:56 AM
Anytime jvavra,

best of luck to you.

SplineGod
08-11-2003, 10:05 AM
Hey Jvavra,
Sure thing, drop me a line anytime :)