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ukms
08-13-2008, 07:02 AM
i can't to test trial version of LW9 because it always crashing after launch :help:

Giacomo99
08-13-2008, 07:15 AM
9.3.1 is highly unstable on Leopard. If you aren't in a position to buy LW and upgrade to the 9.5 Open Beta (which is rock-solid), your options are to wait until a trial version of 9.5 appears, or (assuming you have an Intel Mac) run the trial version in Windows. Sorry.

ukms
08-13-2008, 07:25 AM
wery sad :(

Scazzino
08-13-2008, 08:04 AM
I've been using 9.3.1 on Leopard without much trouble... I don't use the hub though, maybe that's part of the stability problems on the full version? I haven't tried the trial version though...

All LW9 owners are also eligible for the LW 9.5 open beta and may use that version too, until the official LW 9.5 UB release.

4dartist
08-14-2008, 05:40 PM
Ya, 9.3.1 runs fine for us. Latest leopard. I did see another thread about this problem where it crashes right after launch. They couldn't figure it out though. That sux i hope you can find a way to run it.

Chilton
08-14-2008, 06:44 PM
ukms, please send me your LightWave crash log and I can probably tell you what's happening.

LW 9.3.1 was developed almost entirely on Intel based Macs, so I know it works for some people ;-)

I can probably tell you why it's crashing from the log, though.

-Chilton

([email protected])

eblu
08-15-2008, 09:17 AM
9.3.1 is highly unstable on Leopard. If you aren't in a position to buy LW and upgrade to the 9.5 Open Beta (which is rock-solid), your options are to wait until a trial version of 9.5 appears, or (assuming you have an Intel Mac) run the trial version in Windows. Sorry.

giacomo,
I use 9.3.1 ub exclusively for real work. its the closest thing Newtek has to a stable release right now. I don't use the hub, and I'm not saying its completely stable, but its way more usable than the release-which-we-shouldn't-be-talking-about-in-this-forum.

virtualcomposer
08-15-2008, 09:28 AM
I keep hearing the beta is free until LW 9.5 officially comes out. Is 9.5 going to be free for LW 9 users?

Giacomo99
08-15-2008, 09:46 AM
I use 9.3.1 ub exclusively for real work. its the closest thing Newtek has to a stable release right now. I don't use the hub, and I'm not saying its completely stable, but its way more usable than the release-which-we-shouldn't-be-talking-about-in-this-forum.

Really? When I bought my Dual 3.2 in February, I found that 9.3.1 was so slow and crashy as to be effectively unusable. The 9.5 beta, however, is just rock-solid--I haven't had a single Hub problem with it.

It's weird how different people running the same software on more-or-less identical computers can have such different experiences.

ukms
08-25-2008, 11:56 AM
ok finally i'm solved this problem. after checking crash log-s, im sure - LW crashes at scaning plugins folder time. if i move plugins folder at another place LW started normally. if i will create empty folder in empty plugins folder - LW crashes to.

so im just move all plugins to another place and connect it to LW manually. it's working fine in diskowery mode :)

my log:

Process: Layout [540]
Path: /Applications/LightWave3D 9/Layout.app/Contents/MacOS/Layout
Identifier: com.newtek.LightWave.Layout
Version: 9.3 (9.3)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [104]

Date/Time: 2008-08-23 00:03:51.131 +0400
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.2 (9C7010)
Report Version: 6

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x00000000bf7ffffc
Crashed Thread: 0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92ad3592 _SCUniverseGetEntryAddress + 62
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92ad36f0 FSNodeEntry_FindByFileID + 182
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92ad3411 FileIDTree_FindVolumeRecord + 69
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92ad5337 FileIDTreeGetInfoFromFileIDInternal + 29
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92ad5295 FileIDTreeGetEntryInfoFromFileID + 94
5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92af73c2 GetNodeInfoFromFileIDTree(short, unsigned long, char const*, unsigned long, unsigned char, FSAttributeInfo*, unsigned char*) + 164
6 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92ad4535 POSIXMount::getattrscore(bool, char const*, unsigned long, char const*, unsigned long, FSAttributeInfo*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) + 569
7 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92ad3e44 POSIXMount::_getattrs(unsigned long, char const*, unsigned long, unsigned long, FSAttributeInfo*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) + 178
8 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92ac105a FSMount::getattrs(unsigned long, char const*, unsigned long, unsigned long, FSAttributeInfo*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) + 216
9 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92ac0f77 GetFSRefAttributes(FSMount*, FSRefPrivate const*, unsigned long, FSAttributeInfo*, unsigned long, char*) + 173
10 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92ac0b9c PBGetCatalogInfoSync + 280
11 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92ac0a81 FSGetCatalogInfo + 53
12 libtools.dylib 0x00e43369 FSysScan(st_FSysItem*) + 381
13 libtools.dylib 0x00da0d93 FSysCount + 59
14 libtools.dylib 0x00e31933 Plug_ScanItem(st_MAPI*, st_FSysItem*) + 37
......
511 libtools.dylib 0x00e319d2 Plug_ScanItem(st_MAPI*, st_FSysItem*) + 196

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9321b9e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x932231dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94d3d0de CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94d3dd74 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4 Sentinel 0x01088f0b SUP110BHT + 434
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cc55 _pthread_start + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cb12 thread_start + 34

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9325e725 syscall + 5
1 com.apple.OpenTransport 0x010a6ac9 CarbonSelectThreadFunc + 205
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cc55 _pthread_start + 321
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cb12 thread_start + 34

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x93222bce __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324d8cd pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.OpenTransport 0x010a2938 CarbonOperationThreadFunc + 177
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cc55 _pthread_start + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cb12 thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9321b9e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x932231dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94d3d0de CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94d3dd74 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4 com.rainbow.Eve3.framework 0x20002448 createNotificationThread + 533
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cc55 _pthread_start + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cb12 thread_start + 34

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x93222bce __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324d8cd pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 libGLProgrammability.dylib 0x9481e432 glvmDoWork + 162
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cc55 _pthread_start + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cb12 thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x93222bce __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324d8cd pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 GLEngine 0x199b3857 gleCmdProcessor + 375
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cc55 _pthread_start + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cb12 thread_start + 34

Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9321b9e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x932231dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94d3d0de CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94d3dd74 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x9476e46f TSystemNotificationTask::SystemNotificationTaskPro c(void*) + 123
5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b00beb PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cc55 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cb12 thread_start + 34

Thread 8:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9321b9e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x932231dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94d3d0de CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x94d3dd74 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x9476e5e8 TFSEventsNotificationTask::FSEventsNotificationTas kProc(void*) + 216
5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b00beb PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cc55 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cb12 thread_start + 34

Thread 9:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x93222bce __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324d8cd pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b029d7 TSWaitOnCondition + 126
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92ae18fe TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 202
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b02654 MPWaitOnQueue + 208
5 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x94779a7a TNodeSyncTask::SyncTaskProc(void*) + 84
6 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92b00beb PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cc55 _pthread_start + 321
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cb12 thread_start + 34

Thread 10:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324c4c6 kevent + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cc55 _pthread_start + 321
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cb12 thread_start + 34

Thread 11:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9326bb3a select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cc55 _pthread_start + 321
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cb12 thread_start + 34

Thread 12:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x93222bce __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x93222996 usleep$UNIX2003 + 61
2 com.apple.AppKit 0x962b4cf9 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 2042
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x96a165ad -[NSThread main] + 45
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x96a16154 __NSThread__main__ + 308
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cc55 _pthread_start + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9324cb12 thread_start + 34

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x013f4000 ebx: 0x92ad364f ecx: 0x00000006 edx: 0x00000002
edi: 0x00000001 esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xbf800028 esp: 0xbf800000
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010282 eip: 0x92ad3592 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0xbf7ffffc

4dartist
08-25-2008, 03:20 PM
wow good catch!

Chilton
08-25-2008, 04:28 PM
ok finally i'm solved this problem. after checking crash log-s, im sure - LW crashes at scaning plugins folder time.

Yes, it is. I believe we've fixed this in 9.5.

-Chilton

Chilton
08-25-2008, 04:57 PM
Hi,



I keep hearing the beta is free until LW 9.5 officially comes out. Is 9.5 going to be free for LW 9 users?

Yes, it is.

-Chilton