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meshmaster
06-26-2008, 09:19 PM
http://www.prairietumbleweedfarm.com/tee2.org.jpg
http://www.prairietumbleweedfarm.com/T-Shirts.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:M101_hires_STScI-PRC2006-10a.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_galaxy

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Ouroboros.png/250px-Ouroboros.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

http://www.role-play.net/whitewolf/rad/images/BlackSpiralDancer2.gif
http://www.role-play.net/whitewolf/rad/bsd.htm

voriax
06-26-2008, 10:00 PM
Hm..

http://www.ishiboo.com/~nirva/Mods/piercings/left-ear.jpg

cresshead
06-27-2008, 01:50 AM
roughnecks starship troopers serise....not strange but ACE!

colkai
06-27-2008, 02:46 AM
The last Mimzy, the mark on the rabbits tummy. :)
Clarks shoes did a 'trail' shoe a while back which had a similar logo on the sole.

Mind you, it is very similar to old sun symbols so much room for interpretation. :)

Tonttu
06-27-2008, 05:49 AM
Yes most company symbols ('logo' means text..) are variations of old religious/occult symbols. Sony Ericsson = yin/yang, General Electric = swastika and so on.. Guess they want the power that comes with them.. Jungian archetypes and all that.

jlyon
06-27-2008, 06:01 AM
It's all over the recent Cat in the Hat movie with Mike Myers, but I didn't find anything about it here...

Steamthrower
06-27-2008, 06:49 AM
Yes most company symbols ('logo' means text..) are variations of old religious/occult symbols. Sony Ericsson = yin/yang, General Electric = swastika and so on.. Guess they want the power that comes with them.. Jungian archetypes and all that.

The GE logo looks like a swastika?

Tzan
06-27-2008, 08:42 AM
Not really, but if you look at the negative space, the blue color, you see a 4 way swirl. A bit of a stretch.

http://www.ge.com/

Tonttu
06-27-2008, 08:50 AM
The GE logo looks like a swastika?

Yup. Actually it looks almost exactly like an ancient artifact with four snakes I once saw in a book. Here's something that doesn't look very much like it, but has the same motif (CTRL-F for 'snakes' on the page):
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/archeometrie/swastika.htm

Interesting symbol design info here: http://www.spindrift.org/sumi_links.htm

Tonttu
06-27-2008, 08:58 AM
Time limit got me..
Still about the swastika: I know better the symbol scene of my home country, sorry, but here's some examples:
http://www.softcare.fi/fi_newimages/softcare_logo.gif
http://www.yritystele.fi/trevda/img/00116211.gif
http://www.suomenyritykset.fi/images/images/Protan_logo3.jpg
http://www.siuntionhyvinvointikeskus.fi/images/layout/siuntion_hyvinvointikeskus.gif

Steamthrower
06-27-2008, 09:04 AM
Next time I call up GE quotations (i.e. in the next five minutes) I'll be sure and mention it to them.

Hopper
06-27-2008, 09:17 AM
..but has the same motif (CTRL-F for 'snakes' on the page):
Oh noooooo Snakes ... on a page!!!

(couldn't resist)

kopperdrake
06-27-2008, 09:27 AM
I once had a pair of underpants with something strangely akin to the LW logo on them...

...should have kept them to wear to any future LW convention...

Matt
06-27-2008, 10:10 AM
Hmmmm, strangest place I've seen the LightWave logo ...... aha! ... CGTalk/CGSociety! :D

Exception
06-29-2008, 05:01 AM
Naruto's forehead protector...

http://manganews.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/naruto.jpg

I didn't have my camera with me but a few days ago I saw a 24 year old man in Amsterdam actually wearing one of them (http://www.399animeshop.com/anime/naruto/naruto-headband-konoha.php).
It looked... preposterous :)

And I agree with Matt. He wins.
(I've seen the logo in a conference with Autodesk's Vice President by the way. That's because I put it there to pss him off :) )

Maxx
06-29-2008, 09:29 PM
Not really, but if you look at the negative space, the blue color, you see a 4 way swirl. A bit of a stretch.

http://www.ge.com/

It's kind of a massive stretch, if you ask me. A swirl doesn't equal a swastika. IMO, anyway...

Tonttu
06-30-2008, 03:31 AM
It's kind of a massive stretch, if you ask me. A swirl doesn't equal a swastika. IMO, anyway...

Please look at the aforemenioned page for pretty swirly swastikas: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/archeometrie/swastika.htm

Figure 1 should be enough to change your opinion :). You have to understand the concept: it is movement of energy.

And the exact four-snake replica could have been in this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Language-Goddess-Marija-Gimbutas/dp/0500282498

I might have to loan it again and do a scan, if there's still some convincing to do :).

Heh, what about the Autodesk Max symbol, its pretty snakey-yin-yangy, too, eh?

Steamthrower
06-30-2008, 07:02 AM
If GE developed their logo with the express intention of mimicking an ancient pagan rune, that would extremely surprise me.

Extremely.

Tonttu
06-30-2008, 12:06 PM
Ok I got the book and took photos.

Here's the four snaked one:
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7746/foursnakevasefn6.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3739/foursnakeoverlaygecw2.jpg

Here's a similar whirly design:
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7094/centralwhirlyiq5.jpg

Autodesk bonus:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1228/autodeskmaxsnakesul1.jpg


If GE developed their logo with the express intention of mimicking an ancient pagan rune, that would extremely surprise me.


It's not so much about mimicking a specific rune, but taking a concept that expresses power in some way and integrating it into your brand. Stranger Feng shui has been known to happen..

I linked to that article about the graphic designers working for Lucent technologies taking a Zen buddhist symbol. Well, compare theirs to Urtekram for example:

http://www.urtekram.dk/

It pretty much matches the ouroboros in the starting post. That's about energy circulation, too.

And well, even if not all of the stuff we're seeing in everyday brands is intentional, artists tend to tap into the collective unconscious (or whatever?) without realizing it, bringing those "ancient" visions here over and over again.

Steamthrower
06-30-2008, 12:23 PM
Some interesting thoughts. I find all the Feng Shui hard to believe, but what you say about the "unconscious" might very well be true.

Now...you're not saying that these images themselves hold "power" or whatever, are you?

Tonttu
06-30-2008, 12:35 PM
Now...you're not saying that these images themselves hold "power" or whatever, are you?

What matters is that the people who make the decisions to adopt the brand images believe they have power (or hope & pray).. I dunno, it's like a good luck charm, or a charm to make people like their company. And if you yourself are open to the thought of "an idea world" or somekind of "in-built tradition", then you might find it logical that these images could trigger in us specific emotional (or other) states. Same as reaction to different colors, but more specific still.