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Cageman
06-01-2008, 08:46 AM
Hi everyone...

Since there are some threads that easily could be viewed as negative and "not belonging here" or the simple fact that many are waiting for a new LW-version (V9.5), I thought it would be a great oppertunity to enlist all the musicians we have at this forum.

Since I started this thread, I'll start...

The following video (unfortunate camera angle) shows what I usually do when practising improvision. I'm not following any rules; I just play out of my mind. In this case I'm focusing on fills for most of the time (practising having a flow). At the end, I play with synth-triggers (basdrum and the left cymbal).

Go here (http://hangar18.gotdns.org/~cageman/MickeB_V-Drums/) and grab the AVI-file. You'll see two files, the AVI is the one to grab (and you'll actually see what I look like) :)

I would love to see other musicians showing off their skills!

Please... keep this thread possitive... (but ALWAYS give critics in a possitive way, if you need to).

glebe digital
06-01-2008, 08:57 AM
Pretty darn impressive! :cool:

No vid, but this my feeble attempt at Bach:
http://www.glebedigital.co.uk/sarabande.mp3

enjoy, if possible! :D

Cageman
06-01-2008, 09:20 AM
OMG!

Sounds like a guitarr... am I correct? Damn beautifully played! Alot of feeling in it... I AM very impressed with your skills on a classic guitar (if that is what you played on...which it sounds like)...

NT... this guy should play at your Siggraph party!

glebe digital
06-01-2008, 10:50 AM
:) You're way too kind cageman, play it up against a Segovia version and you'll notice just how bad my rendition is.....

That said, I do love my classical guitar........can't beat it for relaxing after a long day shifting polygons! :)

Steamthrower
06-01-2008, 03:00 PM
After Glebe's little upload, I have no right to even be posting in this thread. I play classical a good bit but have never recorded any and don't own a good classical guitar. Doesn't sound quite as good on a normal acoustic.

However, here's two things I did months ago. It's all me, overdubbed and dubbed some more. No fancy guitar shredding here, sorry.

http://www.klarfx.com/mp3/Steamthrower-Fallout.mp3
http://www.klarfx.com/mp3/Steamthrower-Flight_From_Chernobyl.mp3

meshpig
06-02-2008, 04:22 AM
:) You're way too kind cageman, play it up against a Segovia version and you'll notice just how bad my rendition is.....

That said, I do love my classical guitar........can't beat it for relaxing after a long day shifting polygons! :)

Good on you, it's a nice thing!

Ah yes, but Segovia is hardly somebody most guitarists of any persuasion ever get near to so I wouldn't fret too much (no pun intended).

m

meshpig
06-02-2008, 04:50 AM
I would love to see other musicians showing off their skills!

Please... keep this thread possitive... (but ALWAYS give critics in a possitive way, if you need to).


- Negative crits can be just as useful. I mean there's nothing worse than that facile, passive form of negativity where everyone is bent on not saying what they think?

m:)

glebe digital
06-02-2008, 05:26 AM
However, here's two things I did months ago. It's all me, overdubbed and dubbed some more. No fancy guitar shredding here, sorry.

http://www.klarfx.com/mp3/Steamthrower-Fallout.mp3
http://www.klarfx.com/mp3/Steamthrower-Flight_From_Chernobyl.mp3

Really like where you're going with 'fallout'..........sounds like Tortoise to me. :thumbsup:
If I can find my rendition of Cale's 'cocaine' then I can really embarass myself..... :D

meshpig
06-02-2008, 05:37 AM
If I can find my rendition of Cale's 'cocaine' then I can really embarass myself..... :D

No, let me embarrass myself first with this all digital rendition of a guitar (garageband) ... I can't recall under what pile of junk my guitar is these days.

m

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Cageman
06-02-2008, 07:47 AM
- Negative crits can be just as useful. I mean there's nothing worse than that facile, passive form of negativity where everyone is bent on not saying what they think?

m:)

Well...

What I meant was of course to be polite and constructive = possitive feedback even if its "negative critics"...

:)

RollerJesus
06-02-2008, 08:31 AM
I'm recording a really interesting jazz album right now with a couple from Denver and I'd love to share some of the WIP's with you guys but my studio had a major termite infestation over the weekend and I can't exactly access it right now. (We need to relocate it's so bad... blah.)

I have this early WIP that we did for the demo release of the album. The first 2 - 3 minutes are an intro drone, so if you want to hear the music, skip ahead a bit and please let me know what you guys think (especially of the recording)!

http://www.bedpanmedia.com/RELIII/DawnsEyes.rar

Cageman
06-02-2008, 09:33 AM
The recording sounds very organic and alive. Fits this type of music very well. A couple of times I was little distracted by some guitars being little too strong at times.

Very nice and soft jazz... little too slow for my personal taste, but very well played!

EDIT: What instrument did you play? Or do you only manage the recording?

RollerJesus
06-02-2008, 09:42 AM
The recording sounds very organic and alive. Fits this type of music very well. A couple of times I was little distracted by some guitars being little too strong at times.

Thanks, that's quite the feel I was going for with the recording. It definately needs another couple mixing sessions to get the guitars right. Personally, I'm more distracted by the short changes in time signature, but that is the effect the artist is after.

I don't really play anything, I dabble here and there but on this effort, I was only the engineer.

The artist played all the instruments himself on the demo, but the record features other musicans and a lot more instruments. (pots and pans, washboad, flute, soprano sax, trumpet, and miscellaneous others)

NAS
06-02-2008, 10:02 AM
I would post some stuff up but i'm mainly in the dance and HipHop world so i doubt it would be of much interest ;)

NAS

RollerJesus
06-02-2008, 10:13 AM
I would post some stuff up but i'm mainly in the dance and HipHop world so i doubt it would be of much interest

I got started in engineering and production from Dj'ing house parties, so I'd be interested in the dance stuff and as long as it's not bling rap, I'm also interested in the hip hop too.

So let's hear it!

NAS
06-02-2008, 10:38 AM
Well i'm from the UK we dont do bling rap hahahaha
Our HipHop is very very different from the US
Language is probably too bad to post on a public forum hahahaha
I can post some dance stuff though
I'll cut some up into snippets and post some later or something

PS i'm a turntabliist and DJ a lot too
Been Rippin the tables for near twenty years now lol


NAS

Hopper
06-02-2008, 01:26 PM
Unfortunately, there's one less great musician playing instruments today ...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/02/diddley.obit/index.html

What a shame.

CC Rider
06-02-2008, 02:22 PM
This is a pretty fun thread!
Here is some old and new stuff for me.
I'm 40 years old now, but in my 20s I played in a few hard rock bands and even opened up for Motley Crue once (out of pure luck)

Song 1 (Windows Media format) (http://www.qvincent.com/chris/YaMule!.wma)
Song 2 (Quicktime format) (http://www.qvincent.com/chris/freedom.m4a)

Song 1 I just recorded a few months ago with just guitar and a drum machine. I'm not any good with a drum machine but it still kindof cool. Its really not even finished...just abondoned.
Song 2 is a studio demo I recorded with a band called White Noise back in 1993.
(these aren't streaming so you'll need to download them to play properly)

Also, here is a frame of me in the early 90s from a video we shot at a show one night.

We may not have been the best musicians in the world but we sure had a lot of fun!

Cageman
06-02-2008, 03:11 PM
I added another recording where I play only with the synth-trigger kit. In the long run, it's quite annoying (especially the one mapped to the left cymbal). :) But at the same time, they add something that makes it sound little more fun... :) This time I changed the camera angle, but for some reason I have both bad picture and bad framerate. :(

Once again I just play out of my head and try to keep the groove. :)

http://hangar18.gotdns.org/~cageman/MickeB_V-Drums/

Cageman-VDrums_QuickCam_v002.wmv

glebe digital
06-02-2008, 03:25 PM
"I said C., C. C. Rider
Oh see, what you have done
(Yea yea yea)"

The brown sounds lives on..:rock:...........takes me back to Hammersmith Odeon, spilled beer all over the place, motorhead, sleeping/sharing smokes with the homeless whilst waiting for the early morning train back from charing-cross to the sticks.........nice one! hehe

RollerJesus
06-03-2008, 06:49 AM
Well i'm from the UK we dont do bling rap hahahaha

Is this where I'm supposed to ask if you like The Streets or don't like The Streets?

meshpig
06-04-2008, 03:28 AM
I have this early WIP that we did for the demo release of the album. The first 2 - 3 minutes are an intro drone, so if you want to hear the music, skip ahead a bit and please let me know what you guys think (especially of the recording)!

http://www.bedpanmedia.com/RELIII/DawnsEyes.rar

That's sounding good... the drone is like "rainbow dome muzik" what's his name did in the 70's? ... Steve Hillage, that's it. Then he produced Simple Minds.

I hear a bit of old Pat Metheny creeping in there too.

Like I worry about music in that sense sometimes, it's become a field of signification and I've heard it all before?


m:)

RollerJesus
06-04-2008, 07:58 AM
That's sounding good... the drone is like "rainbow dome muzik" what's his name did in the 70's? ... Steve Hillage, that's it. Then he produced Simple Minds.

Hey Mesh, I'm glad you enjoyed the song.

This drone is pretty mild but the artist uses them to transition between songs with no gap between them. Some get pretty crazy, this one is rather mild.

I think music will always bring to the surface emotion and thus music which invokes similar memories. I don't hear any Steve Hillage in there, but I did get a good laugh out of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyrxtVnc-28

Patrick,

NAS
06-04-2008, 09:56 AM
Is this where I'm supposed to ask if you like The Streets or don't like The Streets?

Erm i said HipHop not sh!t
LOL

NAS

OFF
06-04-2008, 10:11 AM
heh

RollerJesus
06-04-2008, 11:38 AM
Erm i said HipHop not sh!t

Well that answers it then.

Hopper
06-04-2008, 05:13 PM
I don't hear any Steve Hillage in there, but I did get a good laugh out of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyrxtVnc-28
Hmmm I didn't know Jesus was in a rock band!!??!!?! :rock::angel::angel::jam:

meshpig
06-05-2008, 01:29 AM
I don't hear any Steve Hillage in there, but I did get a good laugh out of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyrxtVnc-28

Patrick,

Neither do I really, though he was pretty big on drones. I like them.

-Ha, hilarious, love it! Thanks for that. I still have several Capt'n Hillside albums on vinyl... can't imagine anyone wanting to buy then just yet?

M:)

meshpig
06-05-2008, 01:46 AM
... but this is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fotmMOXkdY


I was looking for the "Lunar musik suite" ( goes on for too long I suppose?), but this is my all time favorite guitar bashing, valve amplified strat wielding jam... after the New York Doll's "into" on the original release of "Rock and Roll Animal" by that bitter and twisted old queen, Lou Reed.

m

hunter
06-06-2008, 12:02 PM
Lots of great sounding stuff here.:thumbsup:
Here's a little of trying to play a bit of Rush.

Between The Wheels (http://rakemusic.greatfallingoftheleaves.com/btw.html)

A friend and I are doing a concept album. I used a little lightwave for our site here.
www.greatfallingoftheleaves.com
Should be done by august hopefully.

Steamthrower
06-06-2008, 12:05 PM
Man, Hunter, I absolutely LOVE that flamin' continent clip. Great work, outstanding! I'm looking forward to August now (a new round of college classes was kind of sounding oppressive).

I would recommend to lose the Papyrus font at the end though...that is so 1998. :D

:thumbsup:

hunter
06-06-2008, 12:21 PM
Man, Hunter, I absolutely LOVE that flamin' continent clip. Great work, outstanding! I'm looking forward to August now (a new round of college classes was kind of sounding oppressive).

I would recommend to lose the Papyrus font at the end though...that is so 1998. :D

:thumbsup:

Awww. I thought 10 years was enough time for me to start using it again. :D
Thanks. :boogiedow:rock:

pumeco
06-06-2008, 02:00 PM
Great idea for a thread Cageman :thumbsup:

I'm just gonna hang around until someone posts some synth or electronic stuff ' cause dammit you're all using guitars :D
Hell, I can't be the only one with a fetish for the Yamaha CS80, DX7, and stuff like that!

It's not me, but listen to it, surely one of you has one ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoEkyBX7qsg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fND-Q8w_AcE

WARNING: The second clip could induce goosebumps once it really gets going.
Anyway, sorry, I've none of my own so I'm waiting for the electronic musicians among us to make a post.

RollerJesus
06-06-2008, 02:06 PM
electronic eh? You like the New Deal? They do, what I see, as top quality electronic stuff.

pumeco
06-06-2008, 02:40 PM
electronic eh? You like the New Deal? They do, what I see, as top quality electronic stuff.

I've never heard of The New Deal to be honest, but I like all sorts of electronic music (any style really).
Basically, if it's electronic and it really sounds good I like it - like this one for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWuR6r1Uvxs

I'll check out The New Deal :thumbsup:

Hopper
06-06-2008, 03:56 PM
Hell, I can't be the only one with a fetish for the Yamaha CS80, DX7, and stuff like that!
I bought a Yamaha Motif 6 a couple of years ago. I love it. It does more than I could ever do with it. But for those who'd rather play guitar ... how about this ... It's about as close to a decent guitar sound as you're gonna get with a synth at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOgh1naP94w&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SacWh9FWDjk

All sounds came from the Mo - no sampling.

pumeco
06-06-2008, 04:56 PM
I bought a Yamaha Motif 6 a couple of years ago. I love it. It does more than I could ever do with it. But for those who'd rather play guitar ... how about this ... It's about as close to a decent guitar sound as you're gonna get with a synth at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOgh1naP94w&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SacWh9FWDjk

All sounds came from the Mo - no sampling.

Hahaaa, I knew there had to be someone, that sounds good :thumbsup:

You know whats weird though, about six months ago I 'almost' bought that same synth, but a few days before I was due to go and buy it, I started looking at Roland's Juno-G (Roland's version of your MO6).

Being a lifetime fan of Yamaha gear, I thought why not have a change now and then and give the Roland a chance. So I did, I bought the Juno-G and I love it to bits but it's a scary experience owning one - like owning a ticking timebomb - and why?

Check this vid, read the comments, and checkout the related videos and you'll see what I mean :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqos1RpfZvA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42TB7QjjA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Oct-kHM1Ro

That third vid's a cracker!

After seeing all that, I'm beginning to wish I'd still gone ahead and got the Yamaha like I first intended. In fact I might sell the Juno while it's working, although I'll miss it big-time if I do 'cause it's an awesome bit of kit.

Hopper
06-06-2008, 05:11 PM
I looked at the Roland's too. I didn't find anything wrong with them at all. Great sounding gear actually, but when I went to go play with them for the first time, all I found in the shops were Motif's and Tritons. The Triton was more cash than I wanted to pay considering it's a hobby for me and it will do more than I'll ever be capable of.

What made my choice was the fact I could use USB, every multitrack software package under the sun, it has mLAN compatability, and it was about 1/2 the cost of the Triton.

It's fairly complicated though... took a while to figure out the correct setup for the rest of the studio - almost too many options

pumeco
06-07-2008, 04:10 AM
It's fairly complicated though... almost too many options...

Yup, the Yamaha synths have a 'very' articulate architecture, which is a good thing because if you ever get drawn into the synthesis bug you'll appreciate the complexity of it all. The reason the sound acts like a guitar on your MO synth is down to the way it's articulated in a better way than on lesser synths.

PS, sorry for going off-topic Cageman :o

NAS
06-08-2008, 06:13 PM
Cool talk of synths instead of guitars :)
I have
Roland 303
Roland Juno 2 (Original analogue)
Roland MKS50
Roland DJ70
Roland MC505
Quasimidi Technox
Quasimidi Raveolution
Yamaha A3000
Yamaha SU700
Novation KS rack
Novation Drum Station
Plus i make my own VST Plugins

I have loads of recording gear too but that isn't important ;)

NAS

Hopper
06-08-2008, 07:04 PM
Cool talk of synths instead of guitars :)
I have
Roland 303
Roland Juno 2 (Original analogue)
...

Holy crap man! Play a little maybe??? That's damn cool.



I have loads of recording gear too but that isn't important
Sure it is! This thread should cover it ... I mean why not - it's part of playing instruments. You gotta record it to get it out there right? (If you share that is) :)

Let's hear it. What do you guys use?

My recording specific gear... (slim pickins but it gets the job done for a hobbiest)

Echo Layla 24/96 A/D multichannel input (old but works like a champ)
Behringer EURODESK SL3242FX-PRO 32-Channel mixer
4 Sure SM57 amp mics
2 Audio Technica AT3035 room mics for acoustic
Various compressors, verbs, effects, etc...
Roland DR-880 Drum machine
Software: ProTools, Nuendo, CuBase, Sonar, SoundForge

Instead of having a "Let's see your Desk" thread, we need to start up a "Let's see your music toys" thread...

Steamthrower
06-08-2008, 07:53 PM
That's some smoking synth there, Hopper! :thumbsup:

pumeco
06-10-2008, 03:00 PM
Wow, you guys have some really nice kit.

Hell, I wish I could have had so much gear all at once. I've had a lot of gear myself, but I could never afford to have it all at once when I started out (and can barely manage it now either). I usually had to sell one thing to buy another. That said, over the years I've managed to build-up a quality setup. There's only three more things I need before I can consider it 'complete' and start making music ;

http://www.behringer.com//T1951/T1951_big.jpg
http://www.behringer.com//T1952/T1952_big.jpg
http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/products/speakers/msp_studio_series/photos.html

Once I add those three to my kit, I'll have a complete pro-quality setup, and at last, I'll be able to start making some music instead of just tinkering with the synths making strange but beautiful noises :D

I cannot ...believe... how cheap those Behringer outboards are going to be (about 100 each brand new), and I can't wait to get them and hear everything through those Yamaha monitors either. Plus, I'm really hoping those Behringers will warm-up the digital enough to give me get that quality fatness and polish to my sound (the sort of thing that graced ABBA tracks). I love ABBA's sound - just sounds lush and gorgeous. And before anyone tells me to get real, I think (I know) they were musical gods and can't bear those idiots who diss' them just because of the way they dressed!

BTW, if anyone wants to start that musical toys thread - I'd love to see it for sure :thumbsup:

Steamthrower
06-10-2008, 03:48 PM
(the sort of thing that graced ABBA tracks). I love ABBA's sound - just sounds lush and gorgeous. And before anyone tells me to get real, I think (I know) they were musical gods and can't bear those idiots who diss' them just because of the way they dressed!

BTW, if anyone wants to start that musical toys thread - I'd love to see it for sure :thumbsup:

If I tell anyone that I like ABBA I get laughed out of the room. But...I mean, listen to Super Trouper! Show me another band who can get the modality and the tone of that song, and I'll show you a band who lives in Olympus!

I'll hop on the music toys thread as well. But I ain't startin' it.

pumeco
06-10-2008, 04:50 PM
If I tell anyone that I like ABBA I get laughed out of the room. But...I mean, listen to Super Trouper! Show me another band who can get the modality and the tone of that song, and I'll show you a band who lives in Olympus!

I'll hop on the music toys thread as well. But I ain't startin' it.

If I'm honest, Super Trouper is probably least favourite among their popular tracks for me. Regards getting laughed at, one thing I noticed is that the only people who laugh a ABBA are those without an ounce of talent, and couldn't play an instrument if their lives depended on it. Fortunately, I've never met an actual musician yet who does not have respect for the quality of ABBA's work, even those who are not into them have respect.

It's just a coolness thing, I'll prove it :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDh3tu49obc

Although you'll never see ABBA in that track, it was mainly ABBA that wrote it AND played it (Benny and Bjorn). The track goes through three phases, it sounds better and better as it progresses (don't be tempted to stop it), and the comments it gets reflects this coolness.

...BUT...

I bet that if half of those 'teens' who post the 'cool' comments knew that it's mainly ABBA's work, the comments would be quite different. All I know is that if I ever got to the level where I could rebuild a complex ABBA track on my own setup, I'll have learnt enough to make myself very VERY rich indeed and I would certainly be a superior-class studio sound technician.

Sorry ... ahem ... so anyway ... who's gonna start that thread? :D

Hopper
06-10-2008, 05:28 PM
http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/products/speakers/msp_studio_series/photos.html

I have a pair of the MSP5's and they are KILLER. The clarity and range are un-freaking-believable. It was kinda funny when I bought them though... The original boxes were fairly big, so I dragged a box up to the counter and the guy says "That'll be $250... You already have the other one?" Huh? I had no idea what he was talking about. He then informed me that they don't come in pairs and I needed another one. I didn't realize they were $250 a piece and not for the pair.

It's also cool that they also shield the crap out of them so they don't screw with your CRT style monitors.

Hopper
06-10-2008, 05:31 PM
I'll hop on the music toys thread as well. But I ain't startin' it.
Once I get my new puter in it's case (if I ever get the damn case in) I'll take a few shots and post 'em if no one has already started it. Right now it's all working but sprawled out all over the desk with boxes and manuals all over the place. Not too terribly tidy.

Jim_C
06-10-2008, 05:47 PM
I play a left handed tamborine, a cowbell that's been run over and a set of bongo's with only one head.

Hopper
06-10-2008, 07:13 PM
I play a left handed tamborine, a cowbell that's been run over and a set of bongo's with only one head.
Yes, but now you're 'da man' when we need more cowbell around here. No matter what, you can always use more cowbell!

:rock:

http://home.austin.rr.com/mackerma/images/cowbell_skit.jpg

http://www.whoomp.com/articles/25/1/Gotta-Have-More-Cowbell-Video!

Steamthrower
06-10-2008, 08:08 PM
Give me more cowbell.

pumeco
06-11-2008, 07:06 AM
...It was kinda funny when I bought them though... The original boxes were fairly big, so I dragged a box up to the counter and the guy says "That'll be $250... You already have the other one?" Huh? I had no idea what he was talking about. He then informed me that they don't come in pairs and I needed another one. I didn't realize they were $250 a piece and not for the pair...

:lol:
OMG. So did you wip-out the extra 250 on the spot or did you have to go home and 'think about it' first, just in case you fancied going mono? It's a shame he clued you up really, it would have been hilarious to have seen your face had you got the box home and opened it!

WTF ... I've been done ... where's the other one?

Anyway, you sound mighty pleased with them (who wouldn't be), and you've made me more anxious to get them sooner. They should be ideal because I'll be joining them directly to this:
http://www.yamaha-europe.com/yamaha_europe/english_master/20_proaudio/20_multitrack_recorders/10_no_category/20_professional_audio_workstation/10_no_series/10_AW1600/index.html

At the moment, I've got it linked to some Yamaha AST C10's but they're a bit lacking in the high frequency range so I've got to upgrade. My manual for the AW1600 actually shows the MSP series as a recommended setup so that's good to know as well.

As for the cowbell thing, I have to agree. I know of one particular group who'd die without their cowbells (OK, digital cowbells):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvJFISiEE9Y (loooooooooads of cowbell) :rock:

RollerJesus
06-11-2008, 07:23 AM
Ahhh man, we're talking about audio gear and I'm sitting here picking my nose for days... Crap!

My recording setup:
G5
Logic 7 for the DAW
Ableton Live for well... live stuff ;)
(2) Presonus Firestudio Audio Interfaces
Edirol midi interface
Universal Audio Solo 610 Tube Preamp
Universal Audio UAD-1 (with a bunch of AU plugins)
Blue Sky Prodesk Monitors (with Sub) (A)
Event Studio monitors (B)
(2) Furman power conditioners
Yamaha A4000
A bunch of old outboard reverb/effects stuff (mostly 80's digital crap)
Redsound Darkstar
Novation Drumstation
Novation Supernova
Roland TR-707
Roland TR-303
Roland MC-808
Roland MC-303
Korg Electribe EA-1
Yamaha RM1-x
A bunch of mics but the Shure KSM-32 sounds great with a tube pre.
Korg Triton LE 77
Just sold my Fender Rhodes...
A selection of guitars and amps, but none really special.
Denon turntables with Redsound Trifader mixer
...more that I can't think of.

I've never typed that all out before. weird.

pumeco
06-11-2008, 08:00 AM
Ahhh man, we're talking about audio gear and I'm sitting here picking my nose for days... Crap!

My recording setup:
G5
Logic 7 for the DAW
Ableton Live for well... live stuff ;)
(2) Presonus Firestudio Audio Interfaces
Edirol midi interface
Universal Audio Solo 610 Tube Preamp
Universal Audio UAD-1 (with a bunch of AU plugins)
Blue Sky Prodesk Monitors (with Sub) (A)
Event Studio monitors (B)
(2) Furman power conditioners
Yamaha A4000
A bunch of old outboard reverb/effects stuff (mostly 80's digital crap)
Redsound Darkstar
Novation Drumstation
Novation Supernova
Roland TR-707
Roland TR-303
Roland MC-808
Roland MC-303
Korg Electribe EA-1
Yamaha RM1-x
A bunch of mics but the Shure KSM-32 sounds great with a tube pre.
Korg Triton LE 77
Just sold my Fender Rhodes...
A selection of guitars and amps, but none really special.
Denon turntables with Redsound Trifader mixer
...more that I can't think of.

I've never typed that all out before. weird.

Hell man, send over your A4000, RM1X, and Supernova :D

A lot of similar stuff to some I had in there. I also have Ableton Live but it doesn't get used so much now other than testing VST's. It feels a bit redundant since I got a QY700. The QY700 is my favourite piece of kit, and according to Yamaha I was very lucky to get one brand new because of how old it was (luckily they had one in reserves). You can use it like Ableton Live, live looping and switching accompaniment parts in and out just as if they were live sets - it's criminal they no longer make it (best dedicated hardware sequencer ever made - no messin'). I had an MC-808 as well, but I returned it to the store almost immediately when I found out I needed to use a software editor to get at the deep editing. That was a stupid move by Roland (what a waste) cause it's otherwise an awsome tool and I really liked it (sounded warm as well).

I've always been curious about the RM1X though because they've never had one in stock to play with around here, and downloading the manual didn't really sink the workflow in to my head at all. I never really could figure out if once you had built-up your parts, would they be responsive to chord changes, would it actually recognize the difference between C and D and change accordingly (like it does on the QY700) or if it was entirely based on one finger phrase sequences.

RollerJesus
06-11-2008, 08:14 AM
Hell man, send over your A4000, RM1X, and Supernova

RollerJesus
06-11-2008, 08:22 AM
Damn 5 minute rule! AHHHHHHH!!!!!!


Hell man, send over your A4000, RM1X, and Supernova

Honestly, since I started using Live rewired to Logic, I haven't turned on the A4000 except to use the wonderful strings and piano that came on the demo cd's. Sort of a waste of horsepower, but it's nice to have a piece of equipment that you can dedicate to a single, simple use. I'm sick of using instruments for multiple things at the same time especially when attempting any sort of live performance, the last thing I want to do is go digging through menus.

As for the RM1-x, I haven't gotten into it's sequencer so much because I use it as a slave to Logic. I also can't tell you with any certainty if it will respons like the QY700 to chord changes, but I have a feeling it wouldn't. I normally play passages with my Triton, save as MIDI in Logic and send that data to the RM1-x via Logic. But you have me thinking... and I'm going to check out that QY700!

Regarding my Supernova, you can have it when you pry it from my cold dead fingers. :thumbsup:

The Mc-808 was one of the first pieces of equipment that I purchased and I bought it thinking it was a TR-808. I totally got ripped off but it ended up working out because right after I met someone who needed to do some recording. This was before I had a DAW, so we made a great song on that and it got me started in recording. It has a special place in my heart and I'll keep it forever.

(look at me all misty eyed...)

Steamthrower
06-11-2008, 09:07 AM
If no one's gonna start an audio equipment thread, I won't.

I'm looking to buy some synth equipment for the band I'm in. It's just one of millions of little college bands so I don't need much...just want to mess around with some stuff. I used to play piano pretty well (Bach and Saint Saens crap...no rock) so I think I'll be able to pick it up pretty fast. But I know absolutely nothing about it and I don't know what would work well for live gigs. I'd need something pretty small and portable since local coffeehouses are currently our forte (no bars - I live in a dry county for Pete's sake!)

Any suggestions? College students don't have much money to blow on vintage Rolands, either.

RollerJesus
06-11-2008, 09:32 AM
Yes, i would wholheartedly recommend the microKorg. It's tiny, durable and accepts audio inputs. Endless hours of fun.

If you can afford it, go with any of the Access products (Virus, etc) or the Waldorf Q series is pretty cool too.

But bang for the buck, a microKorg alone, or with a kaosPad, will get you some awesome results.

dry county? ouch.

pumeco
06-11-2008, 09:40 AM
... But you have me thinking... and I'm going to check out that QY700! ...)

Yeah, I think you should because looking at your kit list you really like your grooveboxes.

Here's some stuff for you to check out:
http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/qy700/visual.html
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1996_articles/nov96/yamahaqy700.html

The guy doing the review is good, but he misses out a lot of the machines abilities (like using it similar to Ableton Live), but then I personally have found editing abilities on the machine that are not even mentioned in the manual (and it's a pretty hefty manual). You should read that review and then add this to the end of it...

The QY700 is designed in a way that is different to other sequencers and grooveboxes. On a groovebox for example, you can lay down patterns in a specific key and you can create a pattern for each key you're going to need. But on a groovebox, what you can 'not' do is create just one pattern and have that pattern change key as you play chords on the keyboard.

You can on a QY700.

You set up a name for a phrase, create a drum track, create a bass track, create a melody track. Further than that you can create more than one track of each type ... so ... a typical phrase might look like this;

Track 1 = bass
Track 2 = another bass
Track 3 = yet another bass
Track 4 = Melody
Track 5 = another melody
.
.
.
Track 10 = drums
Track 12 = more drums
.
.
.
Track 16 = whatever - you get the idea.

But wait ... you can use use all those tracks, route them a mixture of internal or external, and still, you will not have even touched the seperate 32 extra tracks available from the main sequencer block.

Absolutely 'every' phrase (or track of a phrase) can be created from scratch using the sequencer and then copied over to the pattern tracks. You can not only build up a library of custom patterns and phrases, but you can then load them back in and mix them together at will and hear it change 'live' as you assign your different phrases to the various tracks, and of course, just change a chord on the keyboard and every track of your custom pattern will be transposed 'live' to the correct key as you play it.

It's way better than the groovebox concept in that respect because you don't have to think ... hmmm... how many chords will I be using. Nah, you just tell the machine what key you're composing the pattern in and it will automatically rebuild the other chords from the pattern for you, in fact it doesnt actually do that because it just 'does it' all in real time.

Doesn't stop there either, because when you really get deep into it, you can do things like tell it that when you play a C chord, you want to change a specific track in a pattern to another phrase, but ONLY for a specific chord. So you could have something really puchy, but as soon as you hit a specified chord, it could be as dramatic a change as you like, from techno to classical if need be. Even the patterns themselves can be programmed with funcional changes, like replay in a loop or select a different pattern altogether.

One thing you should bear in mind though is that because of the sophistication, the QY700 is menu based ... BUT ... it is huge and there are dedicated controls all over the machine which makes it very well laid out.

Anyway, I hope it helps you. If you like your grooveboxes, then this is a different but excellent concept. I can tell you now though, you will hate it at first, but all of a sudden it will all fall into place and you'll think ... WTF ... that's bloody amazing!

Finally, if you 'do' decide to go for one, do 'not' take notice of music equipment dealers. They will tell you that you have no chance of getting one because it's no longer manufactured (they just assume there are none left). Ignore them, contact Yamaha directly like I did, they have reserves in each country and you just migh get a new one like I did. You could always use ebay, but to be honest if you get one of these you will keep it a lifetime so it makes sense to try for new first. Oh, and be sure you get two boxes if you accept delivery (the power supply is in a seperate box to the main unit).

One thing I can tell you is that I don't ever think we'll see it's like again (especially in hardware like this baby). It's definately the backbone and workhorse of my setup.


PS: Crap, I just did a preview and realized how much I babble on :eek:

pumeco
06-11-2008, 09:50 AM
Any suggestions? College students don't have much money to blow on vintage Rolands, either.

I'd recommend some, but what sort of music are you wanting it for?

Jim_C
06-11-2008, 10:09 AM
Yes, but now you're 'da man' when we need more cowbell around here. No matter what, you can always use more cowbell!

:rock:

http://home.austin.rr.com/mackerma/images/cowbell_skit.jpg

http://www.whoomp.com/articles/25/1/Gotta-Have-More-Cowbell-Video!

Yea that skit did cause quite a resurgence in interest for us 'clangers' as Cowbell players like to be called.... ;)

Actually I am a hand percussionist of sorts....
Some Equip->
LP Patato Congo, Quinto, and Tumbadora
LP Gen 1 Bongos
LP Junior Congas
Effects Rack (clangers, chines, blocks, shakers etc)
LP Tito Puenta Timbales
etc etc

Think Sonny from Widespread Panic or Mark from the current Allman Brothers.

Which leads me to a joke...

Me: What do you call a person who follows around a bunch of musicians wherever they go?

You: A groupie? (or deadhead depending on social scene joke is asked in)

Me: No..... A Percussionist.

Steamthrower
06-11-2008, 10:27 AM
I'd recommend some, but what sort of music are you wanting it for?

Sorry, I guess that little bit of info would have helped...

Mainly anything, literally. The covers we do are pop punk. I know, I know, we only play it 'cause all the girls like it. :hey:

However we do a lot of our own stuff, which can range from alt metal to classic rock to rock n' roll. We're the littlest of little, the most pathetic of pathetic, but it's fun. I'd like to do a few tracks similar to Ladytron or something. No hope getting them to do some ABBA...

RollerJesus
06-11-2008, 10:29 AM
The guy from Motion City Soundtrack uses a Realistic brand synth from Radio Shack and it sounds awesome. Best bet is try get your hands on some knobs and see what you like!

pumeco
06-11-2008, 12:07 PM
Sorry I forgot to ask, approx maximum budget?
New, secondhand, or both?

Steamthrower
06-11-2008, 01:14 PM
Both. That's the magic of audio equipment...if you buy good stuff, it'll never go obsolete.

Dunno, budget-wise. It'd mainly be me buying the stuff so that narrows it down from four poor starving students to one poor starving student. I was looking for a very cheap keyboard and a slightly better guitar synthesizer (similar to a Roland GR-20).

But like RollerJesus mentioned, as soon as I can get to a Guitar Center I'll try some out.

pumeco
06-11-2008, 03:22 PM
Hmmm... dunno then. I'm not really up on guitar modeling synths, in fact apart from that V-Guitar Roland developed I'm not sure there are any (though it's about time there were some).

I agree you should try out everything you can cause you don't need tons of cash for a good synth. You'd be surprised the sort of synth you can pick up for next to nothing these days. Not only that, if you're gigging there's no point in buying new anyway 'cause it'll only get bashed around.

I know the only reason I buy new is because I don't gig - and others tell me it's basically because I'm a f*cking idiot (I also starve in order to fund my hobbies)!!!

Anyway, to cut the babbling - here's some 'commendations:

If it's to be used for 'everything' then you'd best forget about analog modeling synths. They're great for electronic sounds and for hands on control, but your stuffed if you want a greater pallette of sound for different occasions. You'd be better off asking for a sample or 'wavetable' based synth, but one that has the control knobs of an analog. The thing is that analog synths can't produce real world instruments as good as a sample based synth can reproduce analog.

To get a good quality sample based synth with analog style controls you're probably looking at the Yamaha 'Control' series of synths (they're really an older version of that synth you like of Hopper's). I've seen them go for $80 even (was probably on ebay).

Another option would be to go for a classic you CAN afford, like a Yamaha DX7. The good thing about a DX7 is that it has a sound very different to the other synths (very distinctive) 'cause it uses FM synthesis. The only problem with a DX7 is that programming in FM is hard and you would probably be restricted to using the presets until you get into it more.

One thing to remember no matter what is that 'aftertouch' should be high on your checklist because for a guy like yourself who's a guitarist, you might find you can express yourself more if you have it than if you don't.

As for that ABBA comment, dude, I'm tellin ya', do a cover of "One Night in Bangkok" 'cause it's a licence to transfer nickers from dancefloor to stage in record time :thumbsup:

You're spot-on that good instruments do not go obsolete - neither does this track - it's always stylish and very VERY cool - ask anyone!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDh3tu49obc

Just imagine that on stage, guitars screaming away for that opening part and the synth pounding away for the rest of it - magic! You owe it to yourself and your audience to attempt that opening part on your guitar :hey:

pumeco
06-11-2008, 03:26 PM
Here's the full-opening version - pull that off on stage and it could be the making of you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y-4I1JHJIE

hunter
06-11-2008, 04:24 PM
Both. That's the magic of audio equipment...if you buy good stuff, it'll never go obsolete.

Dunno, budget-wise. It'd mainly be me buying the stuff so that narrows it down from four poor starving students to one poor starving student. I was looking for a very cheap keyboard and a slightly better guitar synthesizer (similar to a Roland GR-20).

But like RollerJesus mentioned, as soon as I can get to a Guitar Center I'll try some out.
I'm no keyboardist and I don't care for techno but I got one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/YAMAHA-DJX-KEYBOARD_W0QQitemZ170227427334QQihZ007QQcategoryZ2 9552QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
What's cool about it is it has a ton of tones, touch sensative keys and has Some throw backs to the old analog synth sounds from the 70's and 80's and knobs to control it live.

pumeco
06-11-2008, 04:36 PM
That's a way cool keyboard, forgot all about those.
It's sample based AND has knobs - ideal!

Nice one hunter.

pumeco
06-11-2008, 04:38 PM
BTW, you might even be able to pick up one of the rare versions that had dark grey keys instead of ivory - looks weird but neat.

Hopper
06-11-2008, 06:16 PM
:lol:
OMG. So did you wip-out the extra 250 on the spot or did you have to go home and 'think about it' first, just in case you fancied going mono? It's a shame he clued you up really, it would have been hilarious to have seen your face had you got the box home and opened it!
Yeah ... it was plastic so it didn't hurt as bad as pulling out cash. The wife wasn't to entirely pleased. I just went out for strings and another guitar stand. uuhhhh.. oops.


Anyway, you sound mighty pleased with them (who wouldn't be), and you've made me more anxious to get them sooner. They should be ideal because I'll be joining them directly to this:
http://www.yamaha-europe.com/yamaha_europe/english_master/20_proaudio/20_multitrack_recorders/10_no_category/20_professional_audio_workstation/10_no_series/10_AW1600/index.html
Oooooooooh verrrry cool. I still do mine the old fashion way ... mixdown at the PC -> then redbook conversion to CD.


At the moment, I've got it linked to some Yamaha AST C10's but they're a bit lacking in the high frequency range so I've got to upgrade.
They have a cool tone EQ on the back of them too (technically a low-pass filter). It allows you to kill the super low tones so you can crank them higher and split to the subs.

pumeco
06-12-2008, 03:26 AM
Yeah ... it was plastic so it didn't hurt as bad as pulling out cash. The wife wasn't to entirely pleased. I just went out for strings and another guitar stand. uuhhhh.. oops.

Yeah I can imagine. I tell you what though, whenever I feel guilty for spending on equipment, it's the 'only' time I can feel good about not having a girlfriend. Otherwise it sucks big-time!


They have a cool tone EQ on the back of them too (technically a low-pass filter). It allows you to kill the super low tones so you can crank them higher and split to the subs.

Thank's for the heads-up on that. I've always been curious whether they'd be punchy without using the sub, but if that's the reason for the built-in filter then it sounds as if the sub really isn't necessary. One thing I can't get my head around though, is this:

http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/products/speakers/hs_series/index.html

If you read the description of those monitors and then scroll down to the diagram it kinda contradicts itself. I've always known the HS series to be 'deadly' accurate (the industry standard), but that diagram shows them as being 'rich' and instead shows the NS series at the more accurate end. I've always fancied those HS series, but that diagram is not making sense after I read the description. To be honest, I'm not sure now whether I'm going for HS or NS - I'm gonna have to do some checking-up on that one methinks 8~

Weird...

Hopper
06-12-2008, 07:51 PM
If you read the description of those monitors and then scroll down to the diagram it kinda contradicts itself. I've always known the HS series to be 'deadly' accurate (the industry standard), but that diagram shows them as being 'rich' and instead shows the NS series at the more accurate end.
Well, the illustration is pretty vague, but it really is just a quickie comparison chart. You should get the spec sheet for it and find out what the nominal distance output is. If they truly measured the accuracy correctly, they should have all of that information.

Once you get into the high end gear, it's all numbers anyway. It will make almost no difference in sound quality. Any "real" differences between gear will be muted by monitor placement, reflections, and where you happen to be while sound is being produced.

(from the ol' sound studio bible)
All manufacturers measure accuracy the same way and most are well within tolerance. They use tone generators to record the sound from the monitors, then divide the electrical signal into either 8 or 14 frequency bands and simultaneously record the integrated square of the amplitude in each band over a measured time interval.

Then using the audio spectrometer, they compute the distribution of average acoustic power at the location of the input source (recording mic). :sleeping:

Yeah, boring stuff but my point is almost all of the higher end gear should be "accurate", it's the frequency ranges that are the real differences.

I have pushed my M5's a little low a couple of times and they recovered just fine. I could definately feel them pushing air across the desk.

pumeco
06-13-2008, 04:08 AM
Not at all mate, it's not boring, I love this sort of thing and not only that, buying something that won't be right is always painfull where the ol' cash-flow is concerned. I can't afford to make mistakes 'cause it takes me ages to save back the cash again.

I understand what you explained, but it's just they're labeling the HS series as the 'Reference' monitor of the two when in fact, looking at the tech specs it shows that the MS series has a larger frequency range. The whole point of a reference monitor is so that you can hear it 'as it really is' as you know, so then why would they label the HS as reference and not the MS?

That's what I can't get my head around. I know the HS has a flatter response which is essential for a reference monitor, but if it's lacking in frequency range in comparison to the MS it seems kinda pointless to an extent. I'm actually starting to like the sound of the MS over the HS from what I'm reading, so tell me, are they easily distorted with high volume at low frequencies or do they cope really well with that?

I'm not a nut or anything, I mean, I'm not going to be using them at massive volume, but it'd be nice to know how they cope if the need arises. You said you drove them hard and that they recovered ... but ... please define hard.

I mean ... did you mean I should never have pushed them that hard ... or did you just mean ... hard?

Hopper
06-13-2008, 04:57 PM
I'm actually starting to like the sound of the MS over the HS from what I'm reading, so tell me, are they easily distorted with high volume at low frequencies or do they cope really well with that?

I'm not a nut or anything, I mean, I'm not going to be using them at massive volume, but it'd be nice to know how they cope if the need arises. You said you drove them hard and that they recovered ... but ... please define hard.

I mean ... did you mean I should never have pushed them that hard ... or did you just mean ... hard?
Well, I was pushing them over their RMS peak (and +8dB gain) and too low of a frequency. Monitor speakers are really not designed for high volume, but rather accuracy, however the MSP series can get pretty damn loud without distorting. SPL is over 101dB (which is about 20 over some of the most expensive home theater speakers).

A flatter response is always what you want and I can understand the desire to have a broader frequency range, but you should always look at the "top" end freq range and not the bottom. The MSP5's will push all the way down to 50Hz which is simply amazing for such a small package, but signals below 100Hz should be routed through the low-pass filter and on to a monitor-sub.

I have my low trim set to 0 and the high set to +1 and they are crystal f'ing clear at around 105dB (tone generation). But you should really listen to playbacks anywhere from 70-90dB or you will start to hear "room" reflections and abnormalities based on monitor placement, sound absorbtion, and of course .. your ears.

If you plan on using them for recording a lot of bass, I would suggest getting a monitor sub and only use the HS or MSP's for mid-high range. I didn't get one because they're too damn expensive. The SW10 is one of the best monitor subs to have, but I'm not paying $1k for it and it's unlikely you'll ever see one on eBay. :)

If you want to be sure, try to find a shop like Guitar Center (even though I can't stand that place). They will have a "somewhat" muted sound room. Go get the ones that sound the best for you. Recommendations and stats are great for research, but for that kind of investment - you're the best judge as to what you need.


ok .. Who's up for some more guitar gear .. :D Effects? Cool pedals? Interesting effects chains to try? Loop Station tricks? (one of my favorites)...

This thread will LIVE dammit!

pumeco
06-13-2008, 05:50 PM
Cheers Hopper.

Yup, I'll check out all the monitor models but only the Yamaha ones, I'm not compromising with a lesser brand where monitors are concerned. They're damn expensive I know, but I'd rather wait longer (no matter how longer) and get it right.

Your advice is noted, and like I said, I'm only upgrading from my C10's because I need a better high frequency range. Tell you what though, I'll miss using these units, if you think 50Hz is good, you'd be in awe at these things which reach 40Hz, even more amazing when you consider they're three times smaller enclosures than those babys you're using. Done by balancing the speakers withn the amp in the main unit and some waveguide technique.

They came with a Yamaha Hi-Fi though, they're not actually monitors so they're not really suitable anymore - shame really. I always remember about six years back, a guy came over from his studio to buy an old synth from me. As soon as his fingers touched the keys he was more interested in buying the Hi-Fi than he was the synth!

Of course he was refused :)

Anyways, now that I've picked your brains I'll let you get back to talking guitars. Although you might have to wait for Steamthrower to get back on his feet. I hear he's covered with women - I think his band just did a cover of 'One Night in Bangkok' and was subsequently molested or something :D

Hopper
06-13-2008, 06:16 PM
Although you might have to wait for Steamthrower to get back on his feet. I hear he's covered with women - I think his band just did a cover of 'One Night in Bangkok' and was subsequently molested or something :D
Ahhhh.. good times. good times. Lucky man, he is...

When you go get your speakers pick up one or two books on sound studio engineering. They're a great read if you're into it and you can apply quite a few of the techniques to home recording no matter what your room size, budget, or gear is. Like I said, I have a pretty meager setup but I try to push what I have to the limits. You can do a lot with very little given enough time to learn.

Hopper
06-13-2008, 06:34 PM
Speaking of loop stations ... This chick uses not one but TWO Boss RC-50's (Roland) and does a great job of it. Not a big fan of the song but I can appreciate the excellent creativeness of the compilation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2eD4GcLohE

I have an RC-20XL and an RC-50 and they are really fun to jam with.

Steamthrower
06-14-2008, 06:49 PM
Geez, Pumeco, I'm going to kill you if I ever meet you! We did a cover of Bangkok and were immediately mauled nearly to death ten seconds into the song...slung into the mosh pit...trampled...the drummer tried to crowdsurf away but was almost dismembered... thankfully I got away with only a sprained kidney...:D

You guys keep talking audio, I'm listening.

pumeco
06-15-2008, 04:08 PM
@Hopper
I gotta say that if I had to work like that I think I'd flip. I know what you mean though, it must take a lot of thought up-front to work it all out before you start it, even though it's built as it's performed. It's the first time I've actually seen someone use them to good effect :)

@Steamthrower
It's not the songs fault - it's yours. Changing the title to 'One Night in My Bedroom' was a bad idea. And encouraging that fat woman in the front row by winking at her all night, and then telling her you've got a headache was pretty lame. No wonder she set about dismembering your band (you're lucky it was just your kidneys) :D

pumeco
07-17-2008, 01:38 PM
Hey I got some good news recently. Through my serial number I was able to get a lowdown on that dodgy display thing with the Juno-G synths ... and guess what ... mines not effected ... so no need to sell!!!

Anyway, I've just been checking-out the latest YouTube uploads and came across this guy playing a guitar on the Juno-G. If Steamthrower is still looking for a synth he might get a Juno-G pretty cheap on the secondhand market. Hell, they should be cheap 'cause they're a bargain even at new price. Even better when you consider the Juno-G is actually a complete studio*

*(Synth/Sampler/EffectsProcessor/AudioRecorder/MidiRecorder/Etc...).

Anyway listen right through, he get's better as he goes along, sound's pretty good :thumbsup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5N4lY4vXE4

Surrealist.
07-17-2008, 09:46 PM
Got my site up. Just a few basic things about me. There is music on the musician and composer page you can download and listen too. One of them is a live improv performance which fits in with the OP.

www.richardculver.com (http://www.richardculver.com)

And Lightwavers if you need any music as backdrop to your animations believe it or not my entire sound track to my movie is uploaded on my composer page and you can use samples if you want if you find it appropriate as long as you give me credit as composer and it being the soundtrack to The Last Kennedy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427448/). Which by the way is available on netflix (http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Last_Kennedy/70039655) or better yet on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL_TEl8nGlg) I have just come to [email protected][email protected]! :D

Oh boy and here too (http://www.vod.com/video/107826/The-Last-Kennedy/?video_id=107826&view=reviews&CLICK=116624%2C1%2Chm_rs&ct=5935#view).

By the way I don't receive a cent for any of those links. (especially the Youtube of course) Just FYI.

pumeco
07-18-2008, 05:25 AM
That's a nice'n'thrifty playing technique you have on that improvisation, Richard.

You're in a great position to be composer, performer, actor, and film maker. I can imagine that one in any one of those categories alone would want for the benefits of being able to do it all. Nobody to question technique (although I know that's not always a good thing). And of course, where the film making is concerned, you get to cast yourself in bed scenes with the blonde like that guy in the trailer did :D

Great stuff all round, and I like that spaced-out feel in those samples as well.

Surrealist.
07-18-2008, 06:37 AM
LOL!

Thanks pumeco.

Yeah, well I have had about 3 careers in one lifetime and the birthdays to prove it too! :) (Animation would be the forth and I am still working on it)

As far as being at the helm of everything. Well, you have to be your worst own critic and also surround yourself with people who will be honest. Even then it is hard.

Glad you like the spacey music. :)

And regarding bed scenes with blonds....well... actually it is exactly what they say.... not the same thing when you have a crew and you are trying to act and remember your lines, stay in character. If your mind is elsewhere...um forget it. And believe it or not when you play those scenes "real" that is, follow certain..."urges".... does not play well to the camera for drama at all.

Anyway....

Regarding OT with the music. Cageman - unfortunately I don't have any good recordings of my drum playing but I sure enjoyed yours!

Cageman
09-01-2008, 02:43 AM
Wow...

This thread has grown alot! Really cool stuff all over the place and some good discussions! Neato stuff! Thanks to ALL who have participated (and will continue to participate) :)

Here is something new from me... I usually play metal, but I managed to squeeze some inspiration out to record some jazz/fusion drumming yesterday... :)

The music comes from the TD6 drummodule, but I do the drumming...of course. ;)

http://hangar18.gotdns.org/~cageman/MickeB_V-Drums/OjVadDetVarLivat2.mp3

Cageman
09-06-2008, 04:01 PM
Got my site up. Just a few basic things about me. There is music on the musician and composer page you can download and listen too. One of them is a live improv performance which fits in with the OP.

www.richardculver.com (http://www.richardculver.com)

Hey...that's some neat skills you've got on the piano! I really liked that!!! :thumbsup: Makes me wonder how good you are with the drums. :) Would love to hear some of your drumming someday, I bet you are really, really good!

Ohh... and thanks for the compliment. :)

Cageman
09-27-2008, 05:20 PM
Ok... some new stuff...again!

This time; progressive metal (Work in Progress). :) This is an excerpt from a much bigger/longer project I've been working on for several months.

Anyhow... the first part of this clip is more or less some improvisational drumsoloing (first time I actually do it in a metalsong!) :) This part is very much WiP since I want to change some of the rythmguitars and a friend is toying with adding a synth as well. :)

Then there is a strange, soft, slow part and after that...

BANG... right in your face! Evil and eerie metal! :)

I suggest earphones since I've not mixed this with speakers.

Oh..and yes...nothing is programmed... everything is recorded for real and I play all the instruments (guitarr and drumms). btw... I use the guitar as bass as well.. *lol* :)

LINK TO MP3 (http://hangar18.gotdns.org/~cageman/MickeB_V-Drums/Metal03_newStuff_v1_rough_mixdown_08-09-27_22.22.mp3)

Comments are of course welcome! :)

Hopper
09-27-2008, 11:13 PM
Pretty cool Cageman. I played it through the monitors at a fairly high volume. Take the entire mixdown, normalize and use a compressor at about a 4:1 with a low end dB gain of about 10 and it will be pretty even. I'd EQ a bit of the low frequency out of either the kick drum or your baseline. They bleed into one another just a bit making somewhat of an "overdrone" kind of sound - unless that's what you're going for.

What software are you using?

hrgiger
09-28-2008, 12:02 AM
Cageman, I just downloaded your .avi from the first page. You ever watch 24? You remind me of Aaron Pierce, the secret service agent.

Hopper
09-28-2008, 12:06 AM
Cageman, I just downloaded your .avi from the first page. You ever watch 24? You remind me of Aaron Pierce, the secret service agent.
C'mon man .. do you have to follow EVERY one of my posts? How am I supposed to catch up to you if you keep doin that!!! :D

Cageman
09-28-2008, 02:42 AM
Pretty cool Cageman. I played it through the monitors at a fairly high volume. Take the entire mixdown, normalize and use a compressor at about a 4:1 with a low end dB gain of about 10 and it will be pretty even. I'd EQ a bit of the low frequency out of either the kick drum or your baseline. They bleed into one another just a bit making somewhat of an "overdrone" kind of sound - unless that's what you're going for.

What software are you using?

Thanks alot for your feedback on the mixing side of things. :thumbsup: I'm quite new to the recording/mixing part of things. Since my focus have been more on writing/recording, I havn't really taken the time to learn the "rules" of mixing. Your advice is very much apprichiated! :)

I'm using Cubase SX 3. Fortunately enough, all my drums are recorded as MIDI-tracks, so, essentially, I can exchange the sounds to more pro sounding stuff, like Drumkit from Hell (havn't bought any of those prokits yet though). I have to say...there is a TON of stuff to learn about this and I can easily feel little overwhelmed. :) *lol*

Cageman
09-28-2008, 02:43 AM
Cageman, I just downloaded your .avi from the first page. You ever watch 24? You remind me of Aaron Pierce, the secret service agent.

I've seen it, but I never thought I reminded about Aaron... :)

Cageman
10-03-2008, 06:20 PM
Hi again gang...

Here (ftp://FTP_PlayingInstruments:[email protected]:21/Metal03_Second_and_Third_Chapter_08-09-30_00.24.mp3) is an update of the progressive metal. I added some synthezisers now. :) I've still not mixed the drums though... :)

Cheers!

Cageman
08-24-2011, 05:25 PM
Time for an update, and again, I want ALL of you LW-users who create music in your sparetime, or at work, to share your work and also, if you can, work in progress. :)

http://hangar18.gotdns.org/~cageman/mjuk_musik/

Make sure you read the txt-file at the link provided above before you listen, ok? :)

Cheers, and, I am looking forward to hear more cool stuff from YOU guys!

:)

warrenwc
08-25-2011, 02:08 PM
Another amateur. I started trying to make some workout music for my wife to do interval training (tempo changes every 60 seconds & she was tired of staring at a stop watch).
I've been playing with dance & electronic stuff.
http://soundcloud.com/warrenwc
Lots of talented people here.

hunter
08-25-2011, 02:25 PM
Couple guitar covers of some Rush tunes for fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7kvDumvU5U&feature=mh_lolz&list=PL341B7A50CF6BC9C5

Cageman
10-15-2011, 01:23 AM
Another amateur. I started trying to make some workout music for my wife to do interval training (tempo changes every 60 seconds & she was tired of staring at a stop watch).
I've been playing with dance & electronic stuff.
http://soundcloud.com/warrenwc
Lots of talented people here.

Haha... darn.. that is quite some unique music you are creating! Very creative! Cool! :)

Cageman
10-15-2011, 01:26 AM
Couple guitar covers of some Rush tunes for fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7kvDumvU5U&feature=mh_lolz&list=PL341B7A50CF6BC9C5

Cool!!! They have some very interresting things going on in their music. Technically challenging as well. Good job there!

:thumbsup:

Cageman
06-15-2012, 04:52 PM
Long time since someone posted in this thread. How are you fellow LW-musicians doing? :)

I've made a bunch of tracks since I last posted here, but I would like to to share with you one of those. Mixing hasn't been done yet, but otherwise I view it as a finished song that I'm rather proud of! :)

Instrumental progressive Rock/Metal... or whatever... groovy 3/4 over 4/4. :)

Linky! (http://hangar18.gotdns.org/~cageman/Nisse_Pistol/Nisse_Pistol_v005_12-05-23_00.25_Normalized_EQ.mp3)

gerry_g
06-17-2012, 06:40 AM
a little too thrash metal for my taste, lead needs to be more upfront clearer and with distinctive well thought out riffs that hook you (almost sounds like a backing track), having said that I'm still firmly in two finger keyboard mode in Garageband on my iPad, yes I have a really old Fender copy I can fool around on but the pickups are crap and the fretboard so worn I'd need to replace it before could do anything halfway decent with it, still good effort keep rocking

Cageman
01-18-2015, 04:34 PM
Reviving this thread from the dead!

So, how are things progressing for you guys?

I've upgraded to a seven string Ibanez and having a lot of fun with it.... I need to get a 5 string base in order to match the tuning, so, this one, I am, again, faking the base with my guitarr. :/

Fun as in.... Be warned; extremely heavy music (not fast though, but rhytmical and very experimental). The "fun" in this is... "how do you explain a rhythmical metal riff to someone"? :D What you see is the interface connecting my Roland drumkit to the actual sounds you hear!

Read the descripion on Youtube for more information about the title of this track. :D

Ps. I am still strugling at making this guitar to behave, as you can read from my description on Youtube. Ds.

Have fun, and happy LightWaving!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P0SdmqtsmE

Kestral
01-23-2015, 08:10 PM
Nice work Cageman, I enjoyed the overall heaviness of the track, and especially the chunky guitar tones! Sounds like you are enjoying the 7-string!

I think this is my first post here under this user name...I used to post here a really really long time ago under a different user name, but I believe that was before the forum switch. Been with Lightwave since the release of 7. It's actually mostly a hobby now, as I pursued a career in music instead, which is why this thread caught my eye...I'm currently a music composition grad student...here is some of my work:

Fields of Jade (https://soundcloud.com/john-c-l-jansen-1/fields-of-jade), piece for 2 electric guitars, percussion, and electronics

Depth Scale (https://soundcloud.com/john-c-l-jansen-1/depth-scale), piece for chamber ensemble and electronics

Thanks for reading and/or listening! I hope to post some of my 3D work sometime soon too!

Cageman
01-24-2015, 05:26 PM
Very cool stuff Kestral! :) Listened to both tracks and love them. Very creative music you cereate!!