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Tony_R_B
04-24-2008, 02:36 PM
After two months of testing every 3D app I could get my hands on I finally decide to take the plunge...

And I went for LW:

Reasoning: common sense interface; breath of included applications; bundle with LWCAD (I spend much of my time building architecture for my online world.

So now I need to wait for the postman; and you for the plea's for assistance :D

Nice to meet you all,

Best :thumbsup:

-T-

hunter
04-24-2008, 05:29 PM
Welcome Aboard! :thumbsup:

JohnMarchant
04-24-2008, 07:00 PM
Good to have you onboard mate. There is always someone here who will have an answer for you, maybe more than you can handle

Magnus81
04-24-2008, 08:12 PM
Welcome to the wonderful world of LW!

Surrealist.
04-25-2008, 06:39 AM
Yeah lot of guys doing arch vis work here. :)

Welcome aboard.

JamesCurtis
04-25-2008, 06:41 AM
Welcome, you'll like it in LW Land!!!

Sarford
04-25-2008, 06:46 AM
Hi mate, welcome to the forums

RollerJesus
04-25-2008, 07:03 AM
You've made a big mistake, get your money back and save any relationships in your life you may still have intact.

I'm just screwin' around... Welcome!

colkai
04-25-2008, 08:42 AM
You got LWCAD as well huh?
Whoo boy - you're gonna love that, once used, that's it, you're hooked, it is, without doubt, a joy to use.

Dunno what version you get with the deal, but if it isn't 2.5 might I advise stumping for the upgrade if you can afford it?
EDT: Ahh, if you got it from OneVideo I see it is 2.5 - Joyous! :)

flakester
04-25-2008, 08:48 AM
Welcome to the community Tony_R_B!

Hope you have many hours of productive fun :thumbsup:

flakester.

Ztreem
04-25-2008, 11:00 AM
Welcome!

Tony_R_B
04-25-2008, 12:28 PM
Woah,

Thanks for the welcome, got hold of 3D Coat 2 after reading the forums... Neat looking app and like LW I can understand the interface - unlike Z-Brush - which is a fantastic app, but totally confuses me.

Yeah it is 2.5 I understand it improves on some of the core functionality of LW in addition to the CAD/Archi stuff?

Best,

-T-

colkai
04-25-2008, 01:56 PM
Yeah it is 2.5 I understand it improves on some of the core functionality of LW in addition to the CAD/Archi stuff?

Best,

-T-

That right there, is probably the understatement of the century! :hey: :dance:

It's superb, really, Newtk should throw a sack over Viktor and drag him screaming and kicking to be on the main modeller team. :)

Ztreem
04-25-2008, 02:22 PM
It's superb, really, Newtk should throw a sack over Viktor and drag him screaming and kicking to be on the main modeller team. :)

I wouldn't cry if they did. :thumbsup:

hrgiger
04-25-2008, 02:24 PM
Between Viktor and Newtek, one of them really impresses me with their ability to make great modeling tools that make sense, work interactively and work superbly. I'll give you one guess and here's a hint- It isn't Newtek. I kid really (just a little). I just want Newtek to focus more on modeler in future updates.

And welcome Tony.

Tony_R_B
04-25-2008, 03:38 PM
Thanks for the welcome...

The modler is the most important app to me at the moment too. I do have an interest in animation, but not the render farm to support it :D

Hell when I can get a static render in Vue to take 18 hours (geekatplay make great skies - but man, they are render hungry). I look forward the LWCAD with great anticipation now ;)

Bog
04-25-2008, 03:55 PM
Hi Tony, welcome to the therapy group. Gimme a shout if you're ever in Reading, I'll buy you a pint and regale you with LightWave war-stories.

Many, many war-stories. Generally involving many pints. If I get to the story involving three feet of garden hose, a paperclip and a yak, I've probably had too many pints.

Er, yeah. Hi! Welcome.

Darth Mole
04-25-2008, 04:05 PM
Hi and welcome to bug central! (Ah, kidding). Based down in Bath - not too far away. Maybe we should set up a south/south-west meet?

Tony_R_B
04-26-2008, 04:04 AM
Hi Bog and Darth mole,

Not adverse to pints (er, that may be an understatement) or meets, but currently car-less. I'm recovering from an illness that unfortunately kiboshed both my job and company car. But hell as soon as I am mobile hell why not.
:agree:

Even Reading is a bit far on shank's pony :D

Thanks for the welcome - so there is a brit-pack then?;D

Although of course we would prefer the term English-pack (damn that reminded me of the rugby - bad idea!)

colkai
04-26-2008, 04:28 AM
Brit-pack? h.e.l.l. yes.
There are many of us scattered over the Isles, from "oop North" where I am to Dahhn Sarff. ;)

Ranging from hobbyists to professionals to some who are just plain scary (Hi Bog. :p ).

Tony_R_B
04-26-2008, 10:52 AM
Brit-pack? h.e.l.l. yes.
There are many of us scattered over the Isles, from "oop North" where I am to Dahhn Sarff. ;)

Ranging from hobbyists to professionals to some who are just plain scary (Hi Bog. :p ).

Oh, I know about the north...

I am half Lancastrian...

Widnes - now being from St. Helens you may have heard of them... Near to Wigan.

To be honest I am very southern in attitude, but I do understand that there is civilization north of Watford Gap :)

So hi, from 'the Smoke'.

Note to self - Bog is scary :D

:thumbsup:

Only joking...

archijam
04-26-2008, 02:41 PM
Note to self - Bog is scary :D

In more ways than one..

Search the forums for Shaxam's (aka bog et al.) scarily good SketchUp exporter for LW. Great to suplement your workflow as you catch up with Modeler ..

Enjoyskies!

Larry_g1s
04-26-2008, 03:11 PM
You got LWCAD as well huh?
Whoo boy - you're gonna love that, once used, that's it, you're hooked, it is, without doubt, a joy to use.

Dunno what version you get with the deal, but if it isn't 2.5 might I advise stumping for the upgrade if you can afford it?
EDT: Ahh, if you got it from OneVideo I see it is 2.5 - Joyous! :)Couldn't agree more with colkai, LWCAD is a dream for architecture. I don't do a whole lot of organic or other type modeling, but I could easily see where the snap features, cloning, etc. would be very instrumental. I'm sure if you tried some of the other 3D apps. you know they're good, but I'm sure you will not be disappointed with LW. Great app. great price, great plug-ins, & fantastic community. :thumbsup:

Iain
04-26-2008, 03:54 PM
I've always loved Modeler. After starting off with max, it just seemed far more intuitive as a means to create.
There were, of course, a lot of things I wished it did differently (mainly snapping!), especially as I had spent years using Cad software.

Then LWCad came along and added just about everything I wanted/needed.

Having used BIM applications and programs like Rhino and Sketchup, I honestly think that Modeler+LWCad is the best architectural modelling solution available.

Cageman
04-26-2008, 05:50 PM
Welcome!

Larry_g1s
04-26-2008, 06:05 PM
Don't forget to check out all the free hours of training/tutorials provided by NewTek. I think being able to get you feet wet with a new app. is huge. Sometimes it can be so overwhelming, but with the free training, you'll get a solid feel for LW. http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/training.php?t=77002

Tony_R_B
04-27-2008, 03:16 AM
This is one active forum - and that is important - it speaks highly of peoples liking of the program and its use. Of course we have a love-hate relationship with all apps we use, but LW seems to generate a good following.

As for community - well this place speaks for itself. Thanks for making a n00b feel at home :) I can already see I will be spending some time here.

colkai
04-27-2008, 08:55 AM
Oh, I know about the north...

I am half Lancastrian...

Widnes - now being from St. Helens you may have heard of them... Near to Wigan.
Heh, yup, only 10 mins away. :)

Bog
04-27-2008, 08:58 AM
I'm not scary. I just make people fail the occasional SAN check...

</obscure_gaming_reference>

theo
04-27-2008, 10:41 AM
I honestly think that Modeler+LWCad is the best architectural modelling solution available.

I concur to the point of stating that I would love to see the mind of Viktor entirely overhaul Modeler.

Tony_R_B
04-27-2008, 03:06 PM
I'm not scary. I just make people fail the occasional SAN check...

</obscure_gaming_reference>


Damn, OK Bog you got your own back ;)

Now I know I played the game that had SAN checks in it, but I can't remember what it was...

And that is going to plague me...

G'wan be a good chap and tel me what it was!

Matt
04-27-2008, 04:25 PM
Always great to welcome new users to the family! So, welcome Tony! Looking forward to seeing some of your work.

To get you going with some things all LightWavers need to know:

Here is where you can find all sorts of free plugins for LightWave:
http://www.flay.com

This one in particular is very useful for architectural exterior lighting: Sunsky
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/dpont/plugins/Sunsky.html

This is where you will be able to find lots of free surfaces for texturing (currently being re-developed but will be launched soon)
http://www.presetcentral.com/

There are lot more resources, but those should get you started, especially Flay.

Cheers
Matt

Tony_R_B
04-28-2008, 01:34 AM
Thanks for the link to sunsky Matt that looks useful :D

Bog
04-28-2008, 02:01 AM
Call of Chthulu.

Ia! Ia Tony f'thagn!

Matt
04-28-2008, 03:48 AM
Thanks for the link to sunsky Matt that looks useful :D

Also check out his other plugins, very useful:

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/dpont/main_en.htm

Also, Pictrix's Modeler plugins are very useful, if a little specific in their workflow (i.e. you download one, then a few days later, you forgot how it worked!)

http://www.pictrix.jp/lw/index_1.html

Tony_R_B
04-28-2008, 06:10 AM
Also check out his other plugins, very useful:

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/dpont/main_en.htm

Also, Pictrix's Modeler plugins are very useful, if a little specific in their workflow (i.e. you download one, then a few days later, you forgot how it worked!)

http://www.pictrix.jp/lw/index_1.html


Thanks again - food for thought...
Once I understand what some of them refer to :D

Speedmonk42
04-28-2008, 07:56 PM
I do wish the title of this thread would change.

theo
04-28-2008, 08:54 PM
I do wish the title of this thread would change.

double erm... Splurging is extravagance expense and little else. How is the title not appropriate?...outside of using the word 'out' which is a bit redundant, sure, but not worthy of critique, in my most obeisant of views.

Unless you are referring to a more prurient shade of interpretation... hesitant erm needed here and hesitant erm it shall get.

Tony_R_B
04-29-2008, 05:16 AM
Hmmm,

Well let's see:

The verb splurge has 2 meanings:

Meaning #1: indulge oneself
Synonym: fling


Meaning #2: be showy or ostentatious


I indulged my self and I was ostentatious enough to tell you about it.

May be it isn't that verb, but indeed its proximetry to the adverb 'out' which causes your concern?

In that case dear Speedmonk42 - it is not only beauty that may be in the eye of the beholder ;)

Oh, and if I were to take of the out it becomes 'Just splurged' ewwww! Methinks that may not be an improvement.

Tony_R_B
04-29-2008, 06:11 AM
C'est arrivee! I'm installing it, but I resisted the temptation to go for the French language version :D

Matt
04-29-2008, 06:41 AM
I don't think Tony was going for a 'money shot' reference here, so I wouldn't worry yourself about it Speedmonk42!!!

:)

Speedmonk42
04-29-2008, 08:03 AM
I don't think Tony was going for a 'money shot' reference here, so I wouldn't worry yourself about it Speedmonk42!!!

:)

Hardly worried.

I laugh every time I see it, and expect to see Poser Porn in the thread.

tvtom
04-29-2008, 10:52 AM
Post up your first render when you figure it out (like next week :D). Be patient with it... it's a lot to learn.

Tony_R_B
04-29-2008, 03:18 PM
Post up your first render when you figure it out (like next week :D). Be patient with it... it's a lot to learn.


Will do...

My initial Impression is that LWCAD is going to save me a lot of time...
And that I have some work to do - played with ClothFX and I now see that modler and layout are more interactively linked than I expected. Neat, I wanted to model a tent and ClothFX over a mould saves some time - erm once I perfect it...

I got it looking good but 50k polys per tent is a little high :foreheads



It may end up being a Vue render as most of my stuff will be heading towards that app.

Tony_R_B
04-29-2008, 03:21 PM
Hardly worried.

I laugh every time I see it, and expect to see Poser Porn in the thread.

Well I could go find some...

It's not hard to find :jam:

Look it will be a long time before I splurge again :thumbsup:

Bog
05-01-2008, 04:22 PM
Tony, I'm one of the few folk in the Uck who actually teach LightWave. I'd be happy to give you the whistle-stop tour of a day in the next week or so (next week I'm out most of it, er, teaching. Actually teaching After Effects. Cheapasses). But swing past with a will to drink a beer or seventeen, and we'll just spend an hour kicking knowings about, give you a bit of a jumpstart. Then drink a beer or seventeen.

Tony_R_B
05-02-2008, 02:44 AM
Tony, I'm one of the few folk in the Uck who actually teach LightWave. I'd be happy to give you the whistle-stop tour of a day in the next week or so (next week I'm out most of it, er, teaching. Actually teaching After Effects. Cheapasses). But swing past with a will to drink a beer or seventeen, and we'll just spend an hour kicking knowings about, give you a bit of a jumpstart. Then drink a beer or seventeen.

Hey thanks for the offer Mark. As it turns out I have a hire car for a few days so it may well be on - only problem is timing as I have a few appointments. I have the car from 12:00 on the 3rd to 12:00 on the 8th...

When is best for you?

I'll send a PM with my availabilty...

Tony_R_B
05-03-2008, 09:20 AM
The render is in Vue as I am coming to terms with layout (BTW, thanks bog for the help on fixing points - as you will see it worked).:thumbsup:

Tent and flag made in lightwave - trees Vue modded by me the rest Vue std except for the water which is geek at play...

Tony_R_B
05-09-2008, 05:27 AM
Finally took the time to sit down and work through a 'life cycle' tutorial - my first LW render! Thanks to Stage for his excellent tutorial on LW7 which I managed to adapt.

BTW on earlier renders I did see alot of 'sooty' shadows and I played with parmaters to get rid of them - finally went to radiosity - but I may not always want to do this what is the best parameter? Just to define this the 'penumbra' was sooty rather than fading...

Oh and I love the range of render options, cool and controllable (even by a numpty :D)

:thumbsup:

Iain
05-09-2008, 05:41 AM
The reason radiosity gets rid of unsightly shadows is because it is a type of Global Illumination.
This means that light is coming from the backdrop as well as the lights so shadow areas are lifted.

You can fake this with additional lights but radiosity is very fast nowadays and it's effects are almost always beneficial to a scene.

Tony_R_B
05-09-2008, 06:35 AM
The reason radiosity gets rid of unsightly shadows is because it is a type of Global Illumination.
This means that light is coming from the backdrop as well as the lights so shadow areas are lifted.

You can fake this with additional lights but radiosity is very fast nowadays and it's effects are almost always beneficial to a scene.


True, the render wasn't that sluggish I'm probably too cautious as I am vue user and GR adds a lot to the render time of a whole scene. Thanks for the input Iain - useful stuff.