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littleloud
04-23-2008, 08:28 AM
hi all

i've been playing with the great open source lip synching software that is papagayo

http://www.lostmarble.com/papagayo/index.shtml

i am amazed how quick, simple and effective working out lip syncing is with this.

it got me wondering if there is anyway to parse its (really simple) output data
into a morph mixer file.

here's an example of the papagayo data

36 O
38 L
40 etc
42 AI
44 etc
49 U
52 MBP
54 etc
55 AI
57 MBP
58 AI
60 etc
61 AI
63 FV
64 rest
66 rest
67 etc
72 U
73 etc
74 E
76 etc
78 rest
78 rest
79 L
80 AI
82 etc
83 AI

it is literally frame number followed by phoneme name, if there were matching phonemes in morph mixer it'd be great to be able to convert this into something "lightwave friendly"

i've searched everywhere, this guy/gal....

http://blenderlipsynchro.blogspot.com/

made a blender script and dodgy.....

http://www.mikegreen.name/

has some experience of "anime studio" made by the same people who made papagayo.

any thoughts?

n

Dodgy
04-23-2008, 03:12 PM
It should be fairly straightforward. I've got papagayo too so I'll look into it when I have the time. Would you be interested in the Anime Studio plugin? I asked this before but didn't get much of a response, so it's still in a kind of feature limited state.

littleloud
04-23-2008, 11:31 PM
hey dodgy,

i was kinda hoping you'd reply ;)

it would be GREAT if you could take a look, papagayo sadly is a little overlooked. i've been using the papagayomod version which has some added extras (the joys of open source)

http://www.lostmarble.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5323

the anime studio plugin sounds interesting, although to be honest i haven't used the software. friends have on a couple of projects so could be interesting for their 2d\3d pipeline next time an anime studi project turns up.

on another note, i'm always suprised when i find other people on various forums are from the uk. lightwave in my mind has always been very usa-centric. maybe i'm not as alone as i thought down here in brighton :)

thanks a bunch

n

Dodgy
04-24-2008, 01:13 AM
Do you have any two voice examples? I only have one voice examples....

PM me with your email.

littleloud
04-24-2008, 03:31 AM
hey dodgy,

nope sorry i've only toyed with single voices so far

i'm really bogged down with deadlines untill after the weekend, i may be able to do some tests then if you want?

pm sent


ta

n

NAS
05-17-2008, 11:55 PM
Really interested in this because i am looking into learning Lscript to parse the very similar basic info from Zign track studios which is extremely cheap facial motion capture software

It gives a key frame and morph ammount
It also gives a key frame and bone info for head movement too
k 2 -0.0491679

Anyway hoping you can get something going so that maybe i can have a look at it and try and do the same for Zign Track



NAS

Iaian7
03-02-2009, 10:53 AM
This is more than a little bit late in coming, but figured I'd go ahead and mention it - I wrote some javascript apps last year to do this very thing. The first one converts phoneme sets (applications like Yolo and JLipSync use wider sets than just the Preston-Blair found in Papagayo), with default settings for Preston-Blair and a simplified Flash setup, though you can use your own as well. The second converts moho style data into Lightwave keyframes, for each possible morph, and includes options for keyframe type, custom phonemes, etc.

Phoneme set translation (http://iaian7.com/projects/PhonemeTranslation)

Moho to Lightwave (http://iaian7.com/projects/MohotoLightwave)

And a hint - you can use Fluid to package webpages like these utilities as apps in your dock (uh... OS X, not sure if there's something similar for Windows or Linux). Just grab the "Open the..." link addresses on the web pages above for direct links to the HTML documents. Or check out my original forum post (http://newtek.com/forums/showpost.php?p=832945&postcount=3) for the already-packaged apps (including icons to match LW 9 :D).