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electropulse
07-17-2003, 09:05 AM
any one know of a good stand-alone A to DV converter for use with WinXP and Premiere 6.5?

Trulsi
07-17-2003, 03:52 PM
What do you mean by good? What sort of analog signal do you want to capture? In case you're talking about S-Video or Composite I'd say a DV-camcorder with analog input(the filter circuitry in consumer camcorders probably is not the best, but I don't know what you gain from using pro equipment).

If you're talking about a component signal, perhaps Newtek's own video toaster would do the trick? I haven't used it but if you can set it to code straight to DV instead of storing uncompressed video it would work great. It's cheap, and you get ALOT more than just a component capture-card. Hehe... Actually it's not a good "converter" for Win XP and Premiere because you'll probably throw Premiere out the window when you start toasting. Right, folks?

royL
07-17-2003, 04:30 PM
A friend has a alittle boz called "Director's Cut" it has inputs for composite. S-Video, and I think also for components.

bradl
07-18-2003, 10:39 AM
There are consumer ones available all over. I tried using one (ADS Technologies PYRO A/V Link (http://www.circuitcity.com/detail.jsp?c=1&b=g&qp=0450335023503&bookmark=bookmark_0&oid=70518&catoid=-10266)) to convert DV out to composite on the fly with Aura. The device seem to work fine but not so good with Aura so I took it back. It had composite, SVHS, DV and component in and outs for about $199 at Circuit City.

Dazzle's Hollywood DV Bridge (http://www.dazzle.com/products/hw_bridge.html)is a similar product and there are $50 rebates available at the Apple site. Dazzle is now owned by Pinnacle (http://www.pinnaclesys.com/). The Hollywood is a very popular product in it's class.

quatermain
07-18-2003, 12:21 PM
if you have firewire, the Canopus ADVC-100 is a good choice. I use it w/ my mac but it works w/ pc as well.

http://www.canopus.us/US/products/advc-100/pm_advc-100.asp

Trulsi
07-18-2003, 12:27 PM
Didn't know those existed, quatermain and bradl:-)

TyVole
07-18-2003, 02:26 PM
In the past, my experiences have been that DV compression wasn't very good for animation (especially in comparison to MPEG-2 compression.)

Are you guys not finding this to be true?

Trulsi
07-18-2003, 05:08 PM
Noting that this thread was about analog to digital (and therefore I guess neither digital to analog nor computer generated animation to DV), and that we might get off-topic here, here are my experiences:

The MPEG 2 compression standard is good but it has a much lower bitrate than DV, and I have yet to see DV imagery look worse than MPEG2 imagery.

But if I put that comparison aside, I have also seen some problems with compressing cel-style animation with DV-codecs.(though I can't say I remember which codec I used). I work for a student's TV station and the intro I made for them has a lot of large evenly colored surfaces in it. There are noticable artifacts in the third generation, which is not good. Not good because a couple of mistakes could mean a third generation copy could go on air: If someone at the station took the intro from an archived broadcast tape instead of the 1. generation copy on the mac, they would reach the 3rd. generation when they wrote it to tape. DV should work much better with photo-real animation and imagery rich in contrast and detail, though.

CoryC
07-18-2003, 06:58 PM
Another option is the Matrox RT.X100. I just set one up at work and it does a good job if your system can handle it. In my testing this week, the Matrox DV codec was very good at animation.

electropulse
07-19-2003, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by quatermain
if you have firewire, the Canopus ADVC-100 is a good choice. I use it w/ my mac but it works w/ pc as well.

http://www.canopus.us/US/products/advc-100/pm_advc-100.asp

hi, thank you quatermain and thank you all...we went with the advc-100, it works great and has a cool blue light.

now we can load up gigs of video in premiere with out it slowing down.


thanks!

Trulsi
07-19-2003, 04:07 AM
It's great that you found something which suits your needs!

iandavis
07-20-2003, 06:20 PM
A decent DV camcorder with a passthrough (like most prosumer sony) will do the trick in a pinch.... Analog video/audio in, DV video/audio out via firewire. It's my all-purpose AD converter.
(aint much analog out there left to convert... )

shucks eh?

:D