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wavemaster
03-07-2008, 01:08 PM
I mean, we are all sitting around hear waiting for your "projected release date"... which is today! Please save me the trouble of checking here every 5 mins. If you have no chance of making your deadline (as usual)... If this isn't going to happen today, then let us no know... so I can stop wasting my time coming here!

RollerJesus
03-07-2008, 01:13 PM
Tell 'em wavemaster!

I'm sure your this post, as opposed to the 5000000000 others that you trash NT will get them on the ball. :thumbsup:

zapper1998
03-07-2008, 01:19 PM
if they ever release it

wavemaster
03-07-2008, 01:20 PM
Its not about trashing NT... Its about... stop wasting my time. The beta is the only reason I a here, and if its not coming when they said, let us know!

UnCommonGrafx
03-07-2008, 01:27 PM
But that's just it, they gave no definitive date. Your own expectations are what's wasting your time.

:shrug:

Can't imagine they care any more about your time than the rest of us.

wavemaster
03-07-2008, 01:36 PM
No, but hey said the projected release date was the fisrt week in march. So I think it common courtesy to let us know if that aint going to happen.... and give a new projected release date.

geothefaust
03-07-2008, 01:42 PM
They did NOT say first week, they said, and I quote "Early March".

Get your facts straight Bryphi/oldtekker if you're going to post like a troll.

JamesCurtis
03-07-2008, 01:43 PM
I think it was stated as being in "early March". AFAIK

wavemaster
03-07-2008, 01:55 PM
I didnt think my post was troll like... I am just tired of NT not doing what they say! and as far as I am concerned... anything later then today isnt early march!

beverins
03-07-2008, 02:05 PM
Part of the fun is visiting every day and seeing if the gift is under the tree, so to speak. Christmas in Springtime :hey:

What type of cheese do you like with that whine... ?

JeffrySG
03-07-2008, 02:17 PM
They did say "early March". And to be honest, if they don't feel like it's ready for the Open Beta period I'd rather wait for an extra week or two (or three or four) and have the (non-open) beta testers work out the really big bugs before we get a hold of it.

RollerJesus
03-07-2008, 02:17 PM
The beta is the only reason I a here,

I would love to see NT release 9.5 that is a complete and utter disappointment, so we can all watch the systematic meltdown of wavemaster and his forum antics...

followed a few days later by a wonderful 9.5.1...

Signal to Noise
03-07-2008, 02:59 PM
They did indeed say "early March....2009". You probably missed the year part. See, they're still on schedule so relax. :p

sadkkf
03-07-2008, 03:00 PM
I would love to see NT release 9.5 that is a complete and utter disappointment, so we can all watch the systematic meltdown of wavemaster and his forum antics...

followed a few days later by a wonderful 9.5.1...

:agree:

With all the problems in the world, wavemaster chooses this to complain about?:foreheads

Iain
03-07-2008, 03:09 PM
I would love to see NT release 9.5 that is a complete and utter disappointment, so we can all watch the systematic meltdown of wavemaster and his forum antics...


As soon as he melts down, he just rears from the molten crud again and again.

geothefaust
03-07-2008, 03:12 PM
...With a new user name.

Maybe he'll pick a username that actually fits. Something like...

AngryTroll
TrollerBall
McTroll
TrollPants
Ileik2Troll

You get the picture. :censored: :2guns:

caccipergolo
03-07-2008, 03:19 PM
Are you going to be another tipicall troll?

Sarford
03-07-2008, 04:43 PM
come on guys, is this realy neccesary?

geothefaust
03-07-2008, 04:47 PM
Sarford, I'm not sure who you are referring to. Do you mean to say that we should stop telling bryphi/oldtekker to stop being a troll? Or do you mean to say that bryphi/oldtekker should stop posting trollish posts?

Iain
03-07-2008, 04:52 PM
come on guys, is this realy neccesary?

Yes.
Trolling has become the norm here. Every interesting thread gets derailed by the same people.

If you don't mind this board becoming CGTalk_LW then let it go the way it's going. If you do object to that, speak up.

This is a forum for users of Newtek products, not for Newtek employees. Coming here and telling us how frustrated, pissed off, downright angry you are at Newtek assists neither of the parties involved.

Email Newtek instead.

wavemaster
03-07-2008, 04:57 PM
abusive language removed.

caccipergolo
03-07-2008, 05:11 PM
come on guys, is this realy neccesary?
ok this is what i think:
Newtek is not under a good time, and loving thier product's i'm a bit afraid for them. I understand legit owners of LW beeing disapponted for all their reasons, (not many months ago i was disappointed too), but they are doing their best for giving us what they ave promised with the 9.0 upgrade and for me is a good reasonfor hating troll's that actually are just complaining Nt work
WHITOUT buing the product.
And thats all...

Iain
03-07-2008, 05:18 PM
Ok... here is my next prediction... We will not even get all the features that were listed in the 9.5 release... any takers? or if we do they will be like cc subds

What's funny about you, Bryphi (or whatever name you go under lately to hide your true scamming, trolling identity,) is that you treat every Newtek press release like a marriage proposal from your jailed, heavily tattooed lover.

Go away. Please.

Hopper
03-07-2008, 05:35 PM
Here. Keep your man panties on... geez

http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81030

Kryos
03-07-2008, 06:14 PM
I didnt think my post was troll like... I am just tired of NT not doing what they say! and as far as I am concerned... anything later then today isnt early march!

Just had to get this in....

March has 31 days. Right? So anything before the halfway point of March would technically fall under Early March, and Latter March would be anything after the halfway point. Following with me on this? Now comes the tricky part.. The math...

So we take 31, since March has 31 days, divide it by 2, because you want to find the halfway point... What does that come to?

Well, 2 goes into 3 one time, that gives you 1, carry over the remainder, 2 goes into 11 how many times now? 5. Very good. So let's see, Right now, we are at 15 right? But there's a remainder still, well, to cut it short, it's 15.5. If you can't figure out how to get the .5 after the 15, that's your problem.

Now the exact middle day of March is the 16th... How did I arrive at that? Well, I rounded, and general rounding is .5-.9 you round up, .1-.4 you round down. Okay. And as well, with 16th the middle, that means there are 15 days before, and 15 days after that. So definitely the middle is a single day.

So that means, the first through the fifteenth would be Early March by my calculation. Hmmm... Interesting. That's what? Eight more days right? So after reading the post about in the next few days, it is safe to assume they will hit their Early March mark.


For everyone else reading this shaking their head at me. I apologize. I just dislike people who think they know when the early part of something is as if it is a matter of fact. And if you feel the need to slap me, feel free. Oh, and as well, I apologize for my grammatical and spelling mistakes in that bit as well. I just rushed through it.

rakker16mm
03-07-2008, 06:16 PM
wavemaster,

I don't think there is any one on this forum who isn't already aware of how disgruntled you are regarding the 9x cycle. So what is the point of keeping on about? Please sell your version of LW to some one who can appreciate it. Then use the money buy something you like better and leave the rest of us in peace.

Best Regards

j

Hopper
03-07-2008, 06:18 PM
March has 31 days. Right? So anything before the halfway point of March would technically fall under Early March, and Latter March would be anything after the halfway point. Following with me on this? Now comes the tricky part.. The math...
Hmmm you almost had me there, but your logic is flawed.

There is early March, middle March, then late March. So you have to use thirds. If you use the term "early", you assume there is a coresponding "late", thus you have to have a period in the middle somewhere that is neither. If we are giving all periods equal time, then you have to divide March by 3, not 2.

eagleeyed
03-07-2008, 06:26 PM
It looks like wavemaster has been banned :S. And as for the waiting part, I dont care if I was waiting for another month to be perfectly honest, I would rather wait for a well functioning product (P.S. I am not expecting a bug-less version in the Beta, well what would beta's be for if they were perfect builds) but I would love to just wait the extra couple of days for workflow crippling bugs to be crushed.

Remember, Newtek is a relatively small team, things in this world dont always go as planned, I personally dont mind waiting, I would rather pay $1399 Aus and wait with LightWave than pay $5499 AUS for Max and not wait (which I would never do, unless a job required it)

Sure, all of NewTek's promised features may have taken a long time, and I can understand people being peeved, but I personally dont recall (correct me if I am wrong) them saying all features will be delivered in one year or whatever, they said they would be delivered in rhe 9.x cycle, and as far as I recall did not specify a timeline for that.

Kryos
03-07-2008, 06:27 PM
Hmmm you almost had me there, but your logic is flawed.

There is early March, middle March, then late March. So you have to use thirds. If you use the term "early", you assume there is a coresponding "late", thus you have to have a period in the middle somewhere that is neither. If we are giving all periods equal time, then you have to divide March by 3, not 2.

I suppose, that's true, but then, that turns out to be the 10th give or take which is still several days away giving for an unwarranted rant saying early march is over with.

geothefaust
03-07-2008, 06:37 PM
It looks like wavemaster has been banned :S.


It's about time. All he did was post extremely annoying threads, berate and say rude things to people, such as the comment he made to Neverko.

Luckily, he's away from here for a short while. Though he will be back.


*wew* Now we can totally relax and enjoy the forums once again. :)

Kryos
03-07-2008, 06:39 PM
It's about time. All he did was post extremely annoying threads, berate and say rude things to people, such as the comment he made to Neverko.

Luckily, he's away from here for a short while. Though he will be back.


*wew* Now we can totally relax and enjoy the forums once again. :)

The only question really though is for how long?

mikala
03-07-2008, 06:39 PM
Wow a whole lot of wasted typing here :)

Kryos
03-07-2008, 06:41 PM
Wow a whole lot of wasted typing here :)

I like wasted typing. Keeps my typing skills up to par. Now if only the left CTRL and CAPS LOCK keys weren't reversed on this keyboard I'm on at work. Sun keyboards FTL.

DragonFist
03-07-2008, 06:46 PM
Early simply means near the beginning, start or first part of a period of time, series of events, etc.

It has no set limit. It wouldn't be a stretch of logic to claim that at the mid point, one could no longer call something early as it is now nearer the end than the beginning.

Therefore, the division by 2 is the more acturate of the two philosophies. Furthermore, since there was NO release date stated or even suggested, and early clearly can't be taken to mean "the 7th of", any idea of being ripped off by the man in this case is completely fabricated.

On the 15th, one could possibly begin to complain. But only if one doesn't take into account that the press release said, "The LightWave v9.5 Open Beta program is scheduled to begin early March".

Key words, "is scheduled to begin". Let's break that down. "Is" in this case is used to form the passive voice. That means that the action of scheduling (to set a planned date for some activity) is being done to the subject (the OB) "To" is used to mean "in regards or having to do with" or it could be used to show the purpose or intention of the scheduling. So we have scheduled the OB with regard to its beginning or with the purpose of it beginning -- early March.

In other words, they didn't even promise that it would actually begin in early March. They only said that they scheduled it to do so. That doesn't mean something couldn't come up and a new schedule would have to be made.

Unfortunately, some trolls then act like a statement of this nature is some sort of promised release date, which is not and I am sure NT chose the words carefully so as to NOT promise a release date as they could not possible foresee everything that could come up on the closed beta.

But you knew that already, didn't you wavemaster.

mikala
03-07-2008, 06:52 PM
I like wasted typing. Keeps my typing skills up to par. Now if only the left CTRL and CAPS LOCK keys weren't reversed on this keyboard I'm on at work. Sun keyboards FTL.
Ahh a cup half full person! Excellent!

Kryos
03-07-2008, 06:54 PM
Ahh a cup half full person! Excellent!
That would be, most days anyhow.

mikala
03-07-2008, 06:59 PM
Good this forum seems to be in need of a few more :)

Hopper
03-07-2008, 07:02 PM
I suppose, that's true, but then, that turns out to be the 10th give or take which is still several days away giving for an unwarranted rant saying early march is over with.
And that couldn't be more accurate no matter how you slice it up. :agree:

Hopper
03-07-2008, 07:04 PM
Ahh a cup half full person! Excellent!
Bah! All you pepople are crazy!!! Can't you see that the cup is neither half full nor half empty??? The cup is the wrong damn size!!! :D

If you never put yourself inside the box, you'll never have to think out of it.

Kryos
03-07-2008, 07:07 PM
And too bad wavemaster is banned... Wanted to see some retorts refuting the logic presented towards what early march means... I wanna see how deep he would dive just for something to grasp on to keep on his same thought track without saving face... Well, not that saving face is a possibility for him period, but it would be interesting. Ignorance can be bliss, but it can also be a motivational tool for a downward spiral into oblivion.


But Hopper, technically, you are thinking outside the box. It has nothing to do with being put inside the box. Outside the box, you are thinking outside of it regardless. So that thought is flawed.

DragonFist
03-07-2008, 07:17 PM
Strangely, as I was typing my above disertation, wave was banned. Anyhow, just to be clear, I meant no disrespect to the other posters on the subject. I only wanted to make clear how unmerited wavemaster's complaints were.

Best,

Shawn

rakker16mm
03-07-2008, 07:19 PM
It's about time. All he did was post extremely annoying threads, berate and say rude things to people, such as the comment he made to Neverko.

Luckily, he's away from here for a short while. Though he will be back.


*wew* Now we can totally relax and enjoy the forums once again. :)

:agree: Enjoy the peace and quiet and hope it lasts for a good while :thumbsup:

Hopper
03-07-2008, 07:36 PM
But Hopper, technically, you are thinking outside the box. It has nothing to do with being put inside the box. Outside the box, you are thinking outside of it regardless. So that thought is flawed.
Hmmmmm very interesting.... I think.

Kryos
03-07-2008, 07:38 PM
Hmmmmm very interesting.... I think.

What's interesting is how hard it was to keep from saying irregardless. I actually use that word a lot when speaking. I try to stick with proper grammar and such when typing if I can, so I fought against my own typical nuances to put the proper word in.

nomad108
03-07-2008, 09:57 PM
If you never put yourself inside the box, you'll never have to think out of it.

Is it a purple box? If so, it should be made of six purple squares! And that means....

Opps! Wrong thread! Sorry. :foreheads

lightmaster95
03-08-2008, 08:16 AM
I would consider... 1-10 early march 11-20 mid march and 20-31 late march...
so unless they release it on Monday... I would say they missed their "projected release date".:)

JBT27
03-08-2008, 08:23 AM
It is actually pretty subjective.....and mind-numbingly irrelevant in the great scheme of things.....how long before we all get bored with 9.5 and want something else to play with ..... :hey: :D

Julian.

DragonFist
03-08-2008, 08:34 AM
Wow, that was fast. Seems LightMaster = WaveMaster. Should have been "LightTroll".

lightmaster95
03-08-2008, 08:36 AM
Its lightmaster95... get it right Dragon!

DragonFist
03-08-2008, 08:39 AM
Oh, I think I did.

Hopper
03-08-2008, 08:41 AM
Wow, that was fast. Seems LightMaster = WaveMaster. Should have been "LightTroll".
Well if he made an effort to conceal his identity, he wouldn't get the "hey look at me" attention he craves now would he.

I can't wait til they ban his subnet. Then Mr. "hey look, I can change my IP" will be pretty much screwed.

lightmaster95
03-08-2008, 08:45 AM
Well if he made an effort to conceal his identity, he wouldn't get the "hey look at me" attention he craves now would he.

I can't wait til they ban his subnet. Then Mr. "hey look, I can change my IP" will be pretty much screwed.
Not true... about the subnet.

Hopper
03-08-2008, 08:47 AM
Not true... about the subnet.
Yeah.. it pretty much is. They can ban a class B at anytime.

lightmaster95
03-08-2008, 08:48 AM
We shall see...

Hopper
03-08-2008, 08:51 AM
Busted.

I figure if I threw the bait, it would only be a matter of seconds. He's like a crack addict, but for attention.

lightmaster95
03-08-2008, 08:53 AM
Busted.

I figure if I threw the bait, it would only be a matter of seconds. He's like a crack addict, but for attention.
Wasnt trying to hide antyhing...

Hopper
03-08-2008, 08:56 AM
Wasnt trying to hide antyhing...
/yawn

whatever dorkmaster. enjoy your thread.

lightmaster95
03-08-2008, 08:57 AM
Your the one posting in it... was that name calling? REPORTED

Hopper
03-08-2008, 09:49 AM
Can we have this thread closed please? The little bugger will find some way to get back and keep posting I'm sure.

Medi8or
03-08-2008, 09:52 AM
I wonder who the new user "nodalmess" is.. :rolleyes:

nodalmess
03-08-2008, 09:52 AM
You seem to be the one who cant get enough...

IMI
03-08-2008, 10:27 AM
I wonder who the new user "nodalmess" is.. :rolleyes:

Man, nodalmess was banned after only one post.
They sure are getting tough around here! ;)

mikala
03-08-2008, 10:39 AM
This has got to be one of the most funny threads I've ever read through.

*Pete*
03-08-2008, 12:58 PM
heh...he is banned again

zapper1998
03-08-2008, 01:18 PM
what i miss, darn missed it again

MrWyatt
03-08-2008, 01:33 PM
wow, that must be bryphi, only he is the true master of the bann-me-5-times-per-hour game. props to him.he shall be remembered for eternity. (witch shouldn't be too hard a thing to do as, he'll popp back up sooner or later.

:bowdown:

kopperdrake
03-08-2008, 05:09 PM
like a bad smell...

Silkrooster
03-08-2008, 06:11 PM
Now thats funny... I would also like to thank the moderator who is keeping on top of this guy.
Silk

IMI
03-08-2008, 06:31 PM
Out of boredom in between other things today, I watched the new nicks being created and disappearing almost just as quickly. ;-)
There were at least 2 or 3 after nodalmess.

Hopper
03-08-2008, 08:29 PM
I think they have him targetted now. They may just have his ISP tagged by now. Good riddance... It was interesting being the hall monitor for the day though. I'm sure I didn't make any brownie points with anyone, but that guy just needs to disappear.

Stooch
03-08-2008, 11:35 PM
would love it if they were on top of the porn spam too. although always nice to engage in some innuendo.

Phil
03-09-2008, 05:11 AM
...With a new user name.

Maybe he'll pick a username that actually fits. Something like...

AngryTroll
TrollerBall
McTroll
TrollPants
Ileik2Troll

You get the picture. :censored: :2guns:

This is what 'ignore user' is for. I find it a great way to stay relatively sane when visiting these boards. Shame there isn't an 'ignore thread'.

Kryos
03-09-2008, 10:06 PM
This is what 'ignore user' is for. I find it a great way to stay relatively sane when visiting these boards. Shame there isn't an 'ignore thread'.

Who'd want an "ignore thread" option? That would take the fun out of it. Then the boards would seem empty and boring. :( But yeah it is interesting to see how quickly mods are on top of a single person but the porn spam gets by still and stays about. Oh well. Porn isn't actually as annoying in my opinion.

Hopper
03-09-2008, 10:16 PM
Porn isn't actually as annoying in my opinion.
Nothin' like a nice perky rack to brighten up your day!

It's the midget tossing and cat juggling spam posts that really bother me. :D

DiedonD
03-10-2008, 04:53 AM
So what the heck is wrong with this guy? Why all the determination/attachment for this forum? I mean coming here with various IP's and names, just so ... what? Proove what? Other then prooving he's jus that? Determined and too way attached to here.

Ive been banned as you might now. And I know that, he is watching you now. Its like beeing imprisoned in a glass chamber. You can see whats happening, but you wont be heard REGARDLESS how unfair you might think it is. It may add more into it, what this case seems to be.

Bryphi or whomever you are. It seems this bann thing isnt working for you huh. Guess that isnt working with you. The idea of it all, is for you to CALM down. Have the chance to see that whatever we say here is only letters on your computer display, and theres a life beside that, just have a more distant look at it will ya. And that all that other life should influence a change in you.

And its not designed to get pissed that you are beeing banned and cant wait to get back to the forum so youll what, gather support for attacking NT?!?! It wont ever work like that! So let it go.

mattclary
03-10-2008, 05:44 AM
Darn! And I had a drama biscuit for him!

DiedonD
03-10-2008, 07:37 AM
That looks like a Crocodile Buscuit to me immediately. Here Ive outlined in green the lines that made up the image of a croc in my head. Here Ill put them both for you to compare at.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6231/biscuitrx9.th.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=biscuitrx9.jpg)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3470/aligatorbiscuitse3.th.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aligatorbiscuitse3.jpg)

See...

Iain
03-10-2008, 08:00 AM
If nobody else wants that biscuit.............

DiedonD
03-10-2008, 08:31 AM
If nobody else wants that biscuit.............

*slaps Iains hand*

Dont touch that! Those are MINE. I was just saying that its an alligator like so as I could have it! But you didnt buy it didya?

KevinL
03-10-2008, 08:40 AM
the way you stop wasting your time is contained in your own statement.

You Stop Wasting Your Time. Newtek isn't wasting your time. You are.

They have made an announcement. What you do with it is your choice. If you choose to run to the web every 5 minutes, that's your choice.

I have checked most days, once. I am not doing so with any expectation. I am doing post on an indie movie and if I'm rendering something, I'll take the opportunity to pop over (takes about 1 minute) and see if there is any news.

Newtek could choose to say nothing and on the day they release it, tell us. People would ***** about the lack of info and Newtek would miss a great opportunity to generate buzz (ever hear of movie trailers, news tease, promo bugs, talkshows, etc....) it's a part of todays marketing operations to get people pumped up. This has been the most discussion I've seen of Lightwave 9.x since the last release so it's working. Newtek has never failed to deliver, although they have taken longer than the estimated time. Ever tried writing code? One example, Mozolla Firefox recently had announced a release date several times and had to modify it several times (Microsoft, Apple, matrox, Adobe, etc...)

If you don't sit by a computer all day, checking the site every 5 minutes, then you won't waste your time.

I'm excited as well, but jeeeshhh! :)

Kevin L

DiedonD
03-10-2008, 08:46 AM
Well, ok then... Ill take my share of the biscuit and give you your half, what do you say.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9089/bittenbiscuitzz1.th.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bittenbiscuitzz1.jpg)