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CLE
09-21-2007, 08:13 AM
Hi - I'm considerng purchasing a tricaster studio for our studio and the live vr sets are what I'm most interested in.

Does anyone have a screen grab of the included sets? I know it'll take me a long time before I can create sets I would feel comfortable using in a real program, so I want to make sure the included sets look good.

We produce 2-3 hour education programs with a panel of 4-6 people sitting at a table talking. There are 3 camera shoots all locked down --- so really easy stuff. I think the virtual sets would be a great idea to have different looks for each program.

Can anyone weigh in who has used them -- and what your results have been. Are they cheesy? Easy? Please share any advice or anecdotes.

Thanks

prospector
09-21-2007, 11:03 AM
They are all shown in the Tricaster demo vid.
Just watched last night. Looks impressive.

Cineman
09-21-2007, 02:52 PM
Does anyone have a screen grab of the included sets?
Not screen grabs, but I'll attach some thumbs.


I know it'll take me a long time before I can create sets
I'll stop right there. Yes, especially since from the words of DR. Cross, a working LiveSet Constructor might not be available into the next calendar year.


We produce 2-3 hour education programs with a panel of 4-6 people sitting at a table talking. There are 3 camera shoots all locked down --- so really easy stuff.
I am sorry but I can't visualize how you could possibly shoot a program with six people with just three locked shots. Wouldn't you need a close shot of each person. That would be six shots. Then add in a cover, various angles, groupings. That would be a lot of locked shots. I could see you doing it with three manned cameras, but not three locked shots.

I find only two of these that might work for up to four people. Prime Time would probably be the best, as it has the largest desk. There would be no way to get rid of the Flat Panels, but I suppose you could display some subtle image on them throughout.

"Center.0" is the closest view, so you would have to have this much space between the panel members. I cannot say for sure if individual close shots would work. They will have identical backgrounds, and can't say if that will disturb the viewers eye too much or not. Left.0 and Right.0 might work, perhaps reversed for the end seats. The background panorama will get somewhat off. Do note that the talent is a little off center in these, so that would need to be considered for your people placement.

Paul, or someone who has done this might jump in here. Since the framing guide for a camera mainly gets size and position, wouldn't it be possible for a camera to pan a little between on-air shots to pick up another person? You would certainly need a green screen big enough to contain all the people.


I think the virtual sets would be a great idea to have different looks for each program.
Think that you would be very lucky to get one and would have to accept some compromises to reality. Since you are already doing these shows without virtual sets, I wouldn't recommend your jumping to TriCaster STUDIO, at least until a working LiveSet Constructor was available for it.


Are they cheesy?
As a TV Production Specialist I find some things about them cheesy. Besides some ugly desks, and less than appropriate backgrounds, I find some bad examples of effects. For instance, in one set there is a glass of water on the set below a flat panel, which shows a warped image of the panels video in the glass. I think this is an example of refraction, but is just the type thing where, with a live set, rather than virtual, I would be ordering that the glass be moved to not have the reflection, or removed because it was distracting.

There are usually reflections on the floor, desk tops. That is just the thing we prevent by making sure that all such surfaces are matte. Same reason: distracting. There is even a double shadow from the talent on a set wall. There is no reason that such an example of bad lighting should show as all the sets are large enough that the desks should not be jammed that close to the backdrop.


Easy?
Well, for their intended use, and all the shots available without resetting camera frames, I find them neat and relatively easy. Sure there are things that could make them easier such as not having "Preview Out" disabled on the TriCaster STUDIO. Your repurposing goes a long way toward removing the "Easy".

Nes Gurley

Cineman
09-21-2007, 03:00 PM
Here are the Close Ups available that I mentioned.

Nes

CLE
09-24-2007, 08:28 AM
Nes,

Thanks a lot for your reply - it's EXTREMELY helpful! The sets work differently than I thought, it seems they would impossible for more than a 2-3 person shoot currently.

Cineman
09-24-2007, 08:53 PM
Thanks for the thanks CLE, I kinda needed that. Recently it just seems that I have just got slapped around, when I've tried to help folks.

I sure would start feeling more comfortable with three people, and I think, the last three thumbnails I posted for that. It would still be cheating the design, and everything was a visualization so no positives from me. Think you would just have to try it. Still would have to have a large enough chroma screen area.

I really believe that the off air pans from the center camera when it was off air might work, if the distance to subject didn't change enough to show a noticeable size change.

If you do this plan, or even try it and fail to like, I sure hope that you will get back to us.

Nes Gurley